46 minutes ago, caesar said:

Sky is falling -- watch out!   I guarantee that if $15.00 was implemented nationwide tomorrow -- the world would still be rotating.  Most businesses if they WANT to, would figure out how to survive.   I don't know what the correct # is -- but the dire predictions of imposing a higher wage are bogus. 

Whenever someone is against proposed legislation they come up with all these doomsday warnings about what ifs, what will happen.  Has it ever really happened that way?    Literally the republicans painted the gloomiest dire picture if obamacare was passed/or not overturned.  Guess what, its still here, and we are basically fine; the scare predictions of the republicans didn't play out.  I'm sure the same thing would happen with $15.00.   Would SOME folks get laid off - probably.  Would some business go under - probably.  But the vast majority would be fine.   The scare tactics are BS.   Sky is falling run, the world will end if the guy at mcdonalds makes $15.00/ hour.   OMG.   This is why nothing gets done in this country.  Someone always raises BS scare predictions. 

 

Why not make it $100/hour?

1 hour ago, caesar said:

Sky is falling -- watch out!   I guarantee that if $15.00 was implemented nationwide tomorrow -- the world would still be rotating.  Most businesses if they WANT to, would figure out how to survive. 

Yup....they would....

1 hour ago, Mike31mt said:

Why not make it $100/hour?

Nice try, but your response is called:   Reductio ad absurdum   

Taking something to a ridiculous extreme doesn't make the initial premise wrong.   The debate is about reasonable changes to the MW, typically partially dependent on how much the cost of living and/or inflation has increased since it last changed.  

7 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:

Yup....they would....

Looks like Wawa right now -- so?  Did you cry for the horse and buggy workers, when Ford starting selling Model Ts?  Those workers retooled and got other jobs.   Instead of working in fast food places, they could take gig jobs with Uber, Amazon, etc.  Moreover, as you establish, automation like that is coming (has arrived in many places) regardless of minimum wage requirements.   There will be less of those types of service jobs even if the minimum wage didn't change. 

1 hour ago, Mike31mt said:

Why not make it $100/hour?

Gas is too expensive. It should be .03 cents a gallon, right?

32 minutes ago, caesar said:

Nice try, but your response is called:   Reductio ad absurdum   

Taking something to a ridiculous extreme doesn't make the initial premise wrong.   The debate is about reasonable changes to the MW, typically partially dependent on how much the cost of living and/or inflation has increased since it last changed.  

Ok how about $20/hour?

A few more businesses close, a few more people lose their jobs....whats the big deal, right?

58 minutes ago, caesar said:

Looks like Wawa right now -- so?  Did you cry for the horse and buggy workers, when Ford starting selling Model Ts?  Those workers retooled and got other jobs.   Instead of working in fast food places, they could take gig jobs with Uber, Amazon, etc.  Moreover, as you establish, automation like that is coming (has arrived in many places) regardless of minimum wage requirements.   There will be less of those types of service jobs even if the minimum wage didn't change. 

Nope, I don’t cry when innovation happens through natural market forces.  That’s simply the nature of a capitalist society.  
But "innovation” that is spurned on due to the Government creating an arbitrary price floor that hurts the very people they think they are helping?   Yes that annoys me.  

27 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Ok how about $20/hour?

A few more businesses close, a few more people lose their jobs....whats the big deal, right?

So now we are negotiating on something higher than now.  Okay.    What about $14.33 /hour?   

16 minutes ago, caesar said:

So now we are negotiating on something higher than now.  Okay.    What about $14.33 /hour?   

Its just people losing their jobs and businesses closing, who cares?

The minimum wage arguments are always the best

 

3 hours ago, caesar said:

 Would SOME folks get laid off - probably.  Would some business go under - probably.  

 

yeah and F those people, right ? sacrifices for the greater good so tough S. 

4 hours ago, Kz! said:

Yes, the government spending trillions more than it brings in on a yearly basis causes inflation, you complete and utter moron. That you think inflation is some sort of difficult concept to understand is kind of incredible. That's what I get for responding to my reply guy. Lesson learned.  

Capitalism needs perpetual growth and perpetual growth cause inflation.  If you don't like inflation I suggest you try Sharia Law.

32 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said:

Capitalism needs perpetual growth and perpetual growth cause inflation.  If you don't like inflation I suggest you try Sharia Law.

lmao at acting like the rapidly rising prices of good across the board over the last few months as normal inflation. You might be able to convince a group of retarded gender studies students of this, but it isn't going to work on adults, bud.  

10 minutes ago, Kz! said:

lmao at acting like the rapidly rising prices of good across the board over the last few months as normal inflation. You might be able to convince a group of retarded gender studies students of this, but it isn't going to work on adults, bud.  

No, it's a correction for having virtually no inflation over last 12 yrs or so.  It should stabilize soon.  Wages must increase and hamburgers will go up 50 cents and all should be fine n dandy.  Don't call yourself a capitalist if you don't trust this most basic process.

1 minute ago, dawkins4prez said:

No, it's a correction for having virtually no inflation over last 12 yrs or so.  It should stabilize soon.  Wages must increase and hamburgers will go up 50 cents and all should be fine n dandy.  Don't call yourself a capitalist if you don't trust this most basic process.

He. Doesn't. Understand. It.

2 minutes ago, Boogyman said:

He. Doesn't. Understand. It.

He doesn't even need to understand it to recognize it.  He and his ilk are spoiled first world snowflakes.  They cry stolen election because they don't know what a REAL stolen election actually looks like.  They cry runaway inflation because they don't know what REAL runaway inflation actually looks like.

 

 

4 hours ago, Mike31mt said:

Its just people losing their jobs and businesses closing, who cares?

Is it?  At $14.33?  

3 hours ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

yeah and F those people, right ? sacrifices for the greater good so tough S. 

Every policy/tax/legislation has some winners some losers.   Including some people losing jobs; some people paying more/some less, etc.   Its never perfect.

1 hour ago, dawkins4prez said:

No, it's a correction for having virtually no inflation over last 12 yrs or so.  It should stabilize soon.  Wages must increase and hamburgers will go up 50 cents and all should be fine n dandy.  Don't call yourself a capitalist if you don't trust this most basic process.

What we are seeing right now is not a "correction”.  It’s the result of the increased deficit spending, the hyper printing of money, and the continued QE and low interest rates.  
This isn’t some natural byproduct of capitalism.  This is the result of stupid government policy.

5 hours ago, caesar said:

Looks like Wawa right now -- so?  Did you cry for the horse and buggy workers, when Ford starting selling Model Ts?  Those workers retooled and got other jobs.   Instead of working in fast food places, they could take gig jobs with Uber, Amazon, etc.  Moreover, as you establish, automation like that is coming (has arrived in many places) regardless of minimum wage requirements.   There will be less of those types of service jobs even if the minimum wage didn't change. 

The Luddites could use a good man like you.

2 hours ago, dawkins4prez said:

No, it's a correction for having virtually no inflation over last 12 yrs or so.  It should stabilize soon.  Wages must increase and hamburgers will go up 50 cents and all should be fine n dandy.  Don't call yourself a capitalist if you don't trust this most basic process.

It's pointless. He's committed to being an idiot.

2 hours ago, dawkins4prez said:

He doesn't even need to understand it to recognize it.  He and his ilk are spoiled first world snowflakes.  They cry stolen election because they don't know what a REAL stolen election actually looks like.  They cry runaway inflation because they don't know what REAL runaway inflation actually looks like.

 

 

He's a troll. Or he's just embraced his own stupidity. Either way it's a waste of time to engage.

16 hours ago, Boogyman said:

He. Doesn't. Understand. It.

 

16 hours ago, dawkins4prez said:

He doesn't even need to understand it to recognize it.  He and his ilk are spoiled first world snowflakes.  They cry stolen election because they don't know what a REAL stolen election actually looks like.  They cry runaway inflation because they don't know what REAL runaway inflation actually looks like.

 

 

 

14 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

He's a troll. Or he's just embraced his own stupidity. Either way it's a waste of time to engage.

This:

14 hours ago, Phillyterp85 said:

What we are seeing right now is not a "correction”.  It’s the result of the increased deficit spending, the hyper printing of money, and the continued QE and low interest rates.  
This isn’t some natural byproduct of capitalism.  This is the result of stupid government policy.

You have to be completely retarded if you don't think government spending is tied to what we've seen over the last few months. In other words, your opinions make perfect sense because you belong to the dumbest cult on the planet. 

Bonus points for the "spoiled first world snowflakes" insult, though. Yeah, I've gotten used to the luxuries of living in a country where our paper currency hasn't been reduced to use as toilet paper through hyper inflation. Guilty as charged. Really nailed me with that one.   

1 hour ago, Kz! said:

 

 

This:

You have to be completely retarded if you don't think government spending is tied to what we've seen over the last few months. In other words, your opinions make perfect sense because you belong to the dumbest cult on the planet. 

Bonus points for the "spoiled first world snowflakes" insult, though. Yeah, I've gotten used to the luxuries of living in a country where our paper currency hasn't been reduced to use as toilet paper through hyper inflation. Guilty as charged. Really nailed me with that one.   

Better that than being the "Dumbest Cnt on the Planet". But is is nice that you sign half your posts with it so everyone knows.

 

But seriously, he still doesn't understand it. I would say it's sad, but it's actually quite entertaining.

37 minutes ago, Boogyman said:

Better that than being the "Dumbest Cnt on the Planet". But is is nice that you sign half your posts with it so everyone knows.

 

But seriously, he still doesn't understand it. I would say it's sad, but it's actually quite entertaining.

Reply guy is so aggressively retarded he can't even articulate a position of his own. You just jump onto Dawkins4prez's position because he disagreed with me and you have a huge boner for following me around. It's actually pathetic even by your loser ass standards.