February 2, 20214 yr 53 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Adding to this point, while this is bad on a personal level, it could be beneficial on an economic level. People are generally wasteful with their money, which means if you put more of it in their pockets, they are likely to spend it, thus keeping money in circulation and growing the economy. This is so stupid it makes my head hurt... There is so much money in circulation its actually a negative
February 2, 20214 yr 57 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Adding to this point, while this is bad on a personal level, it could be beneficial on an economic level. People are generally wasteful with their money, which means if you put more of it in their pockets, they are likely to spend it, thus keeping money in circulation and growing the economy. It’s like that episode of It’s Always Sunny where they give paddy’s pub dollars out for free and always get the money back
February 2, 20214 yr 7 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said: This is so stupid it makes my head hurt... There is so much money in circulation its actually a negative It's all relative to the size of the economy, so take an aspirin. What's stupid is your suggestion that it's somehow better in an ostensibly free market for people to have less disposable income. When the masses are dirt poor, it'll be the elitists whose business ventures suffer the most, and it'll also be their doors that the mob comes knocking on with pitchforks when the social fabric is ultimately torn asunder.
February 2, 20214 yr 8 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: It's all relative to the size of the economy, so take an aspirin. What's stupid is your suggestion that it's somehow better in an ostensibly free market for people to have less disposable income. When the masses are dirt poor, it'll be the elitists whose business ventures suffer the most, and it'll also be their doors that the mob comes knocking on with pitchforks when the social fabric is ultimately torn asunder. Get thee away from the Keynes idiocy its better LONG term for the system as a whole. Worse for them short term but tough ish. Let the failures fail. our masses are nowhere near dirt poor. They have cars and iphones and are overweight.
February 2, 20214 yr 6 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said: its better LONG term for the system as a whole. Worse for them short term Fair enough. I want long-term growth. We need to create new industries/technologies. 6 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said: They have cars and iphones Technology gets cheaper over time (Moore's Law/Economies of scale, right?) 6 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said: and are overweight. At least partially due to the fact that healthy food is expensive.
February 2, 20214 yr Just now, EaglesRocker97 said: Fair enough. I want long-term growth. We need to create new industries/technologies. At least partially due to the fact that healthy food is expensive. No healthier food is actually cheaper. Its bad decision making that makes them overweight. And again...parenting what new industries do you want to create? None will solve the issue that unskilled labor is just about worthless domestically
February 2, 20214 yr 27 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: It's all relative to the size of the economy, so take an aspirin. What's stupid is your suggestion that it's somehow better in an ostensibly free market for people to have less disposable income. When the masses are dirt poor, it'll be the elitists whose business ventures suffer the most, and it'll also be their doors that the mob comes knocking on with pitchforks when the social fabric is ultimately torn asunder. Oh yeah. The mob with the pitchforks are coming! They will get motivated to stop crying on Twitter and Facebook and start the revolution! Revolutions take effort, planning, coordination and strategy. If they were capable of those things, they wouldn’t be in the group complaining.
February 2, 20214 yr 34 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said: Its called parenting I had parents that were financially responsible and raised me to be the same. Not everyone is so fortunate.
February 2, 20214 yr 16 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: I had parents that were financially responsible and raised me to be the same. Not everyone is so fortunate. I had parents that spent poorly and didnt invest well. I started in the market at 16 and knew way more than my parents pretty quickly. the information is all out there. Even back then. More so now. There is no excuse there and its not luck to see cause and effect yet here i am. See the real key is that people can learn from witnessing others fail if they have half a brain in their head. 16 minutes ago, vikas83 said: Oh yeah. The mob with the pitchforks are coming! They will get motivated to stop crying on Twitter and Facebook and start the revolution! Revolutions take effort, planning, coordination and strategy. If they were capable of those things, they wouldn’t be in the group complaining. Fear mongering. But the French Revolution!!!11!!
February 2, 20214 yr 37 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said: I had parents that spent poorly and didnt invest well. I started in the market at 16 and knew way more than my parents pretty quickly. the information is all out there. Even back then. More so now. There is no excuse there and its not luck to see cause and effect yet here i am. See the real key is that people can learn from witnessing others fail if they have half a brain in their head. Fear mongering. But the French Revolution!!!11!! You bring up a valid point. If an idiot like you can figure it out on your own, then anybody can. I retract my previous statement.
February 2, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, ToastJenkins said: No healthier food is actually cheaper. Its bad decision making that makes them overweight. Lol. I just paid something like $3 for a single bell pepper the other day. For the same amount of money, I could've purchased 1000 calories+ off the dollar menu at McDonald's. I'm not saying some of it isn't bad habits being perpetuated, but price is definitely a factor. 1 hour ago, ToastJenkins said: what new industries do you want to create? None will solve the issue that unskilled labor is just about worthless domestically I'm not sure that I have all of the answers, but if we can create new tech. and manufacturing processes and train new generations of people to perform the manual labor needed to produce/service them, that seems like a solid route to go. You'll probably laugh, but green energy comes to mind as a way to at least down the line grow the economy by opening up manufacturing. Unskilled labor is worthless, you're correct, but we used to have ways for the general population to acquire skills either through apprenticeships or on-site training in the manufacturing sector. Now those jobs have been outsourced, and I agree that they're not coming back. So, the question on my mind is, how can we corner the market again in this way? 57 minutes ago, vikas83 said: Oh yeah. The mob with the pitchforks are coming! They will get motivated to stop crying on Twitter and Facebook and start the revolution! I mean, I think I half agree with you. In the internet era, your typical "revolutionary" is a basement-dwelling dweeb, but we've seen how the mob can coalesce pretty quickly and without warning. Look at what happened on January 6th. For a rabble, they were surprisingly well-coordinated, unified, and motivated. We might not be so lucky the next time around.
February 2, 20214 yr The problem isn’t just the cost of healthy food, but also access to it. there’s been a lot written about food deserts in poor urban areas.
February 2, 20214 yr 8 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Lol. I just paid something like $3 for a single bell pepper the other day. Lol I like how you are the literal reincarnation of Munson. How much do you pay for a pound of chicken?
February 2, 20214 yr 3 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said: I don't know that's there's an easy answer but a good first step I'd like to see is more personal finance classes/subject matter being added to high school curriculum. I remember getting the basics, but in hindsight, we probably should've gotten more. 1 hour ago, ToastJenkins said: Its called parenting 50 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said: I had parents that spent poorly and didnt invest well.
February 2, 20214 yr 8 minutes ago, Kz! said: Lol I like how you are the literal reincarnation of Munson. How much do you pay for a pound of chicken? I can't remember for sure if it was $1.99 or $2.99, either way, the point is the same. It blew me away at checkout. It was at Giant, and I'm not in the city. I probably have the receipt around here somewhere. If I was in a major metropolitan area, $2.99 is probably right on. You live in VA, right? Sh** is much cheaper there. Tomatoes were def. 2.99/lb. at both the super market and the farmer's market when I did a price comp. recently. I saw them for $2.39 at the local grocery store the other day and thought "Oh, they're a little bit cheaper," but they also looked like crap. Chicken breast was like $3.99/lb or so last I checked but I don't buy it often.
February 2, 20214 yr 17 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: I can't remember for sure if it was $1.99 or $2.99, either way, the point is the same. It blew me away at checkout. It was at Giant, and I'm not in the city. I probably have the receipt around here somewhere. If I was in a major metropolitan area, $2.99 is probably right on. You live in VA, right? Sh** is much cheaper there. Tomatoes were def. 2.99/lb. at both the super market and the farmer's market when I did a price comp. recently. I saw them for $2.39 at the local grocery store the other day and thought "Oh, they're a little bit cheaper," but they also looked like crap. Chicken breast was like $3.99/lb or so last I checked but I don't buy it often. $3.99 is dirt cheap for chicken. I buy organic chicken breasts that are like $13.99 / pound. $3.99 is about what I pay for canned chicken.
February 2, 20214 yr 5 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: $3.99 is dirt cheap for chicken. I buy organic chicken breasts that are like $13.99 / pound. $3.99 is about what I pay for canned chicken. I usually go to a local shop that is generally pretty reasonable for prices, but even they're getting up there these days. Their chicken breast is actually probably over $4/lb. now, but I generally don't buy it because they look atomic, like they're loaded with hormones. Case in point...
February 2, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: I go to a local shop that is generally pretty reasonable for prices, but even they're getting up there these days. Their chicken breast is actually probably over $4/lb. these days, but I generally don't buy it because they look atomic, like they're loaded with hormones. Chicken can be kind of expensive, but it’s still cheaper than seafood I guess. For example a bag of frozen shrimp is usually $15 - $20. Produce is generally pretty cheap depending on what you buy.
February 2, 20214 yr Guys, here’s an easy way to not care about the price of chicken, seafood or produce... Be less poor.
February 2, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, vikas83 said: Guys, here’s an easy way to not care about the price of chicken, seafood or produce... Be less poor. Personally, I'm fine, but I happen to take an interest in the purchasing power of poor people for the health of the nation. It's honestly a pragmatic concern more than a humanitarian one, though I do feel some sense of compassion. If this is the point where you've given up on having an intellectual debate, just say so.
February 2, 20214 yr Just now, EaglesRocker97 said: Personally, I'm fine, but I happen to take an interest in the purchasing power of poor people. If this is the point where you've given up on having an intellectual debate, just say so. Easy tiger. We can pick up the debate tomorrow, when the edibles have worn off.
February 2, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, vikas83 said: Guys, here’s an easy way to not care about the price of chicken, seafood or produce... Be less poor. Every commodity has a certain price where you start looking at alternatives. Not sure how often you grocery shop, but just as an example the meat aisles have started filling up with plant-based food. also, do you read Michael Pollan? Seems like a guy who would be on your wavelength (somewhat)
February 2, 20214 yr 7 minutes ago, vikas83 said: Easy tiger. We can pick up the debate tomorrow, when the edibles have worn off. That's interesting, because edibles tend to make me less combative, but to each their own. What strain are you on?😂
February 2, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: That's interesting, because edibles tend to make me less combative, but to each their own. What strain are you on?😂 Just don’t feel like concentrating. Camino is the brand. Very relaxing.
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