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3 hours ago, Dave Moss said:

I’ve seen teen-age boys on social media telling grown women with PhDs in whatever topic they’re discussing that they don’t know what they’re talking about.  The internet has convinced every Tom, Dick, and Harry that they can be experts on any topic in five minutes.

You can also just look in the Gamestop/Dogecoin thread and Coronavirus thread in CVON for further proof.

13 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

You can also just look in the Gamestop/Dogecoin thread and Coronavirus thread in CVON for further proof.

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7 hours ago, rambo said:

It was and I think it's good for foundational stuff in a field.  Especially in STEM.  They force these kids to take liberal arts classes and stretch what could be a 2 year program into 4 years and double the debt at overly inflated tuition thanks to the Fed subsidizing loans.  

So much agreed with this. When I went to college (for a year) I was going for wildlife and fisheries science. They sent me to PSU berks first and told me to do 2 years of gen Ed before going to main campus for my major classes. After a year of american literatary history and jazz history, I realized that college is basically 50% scam

10 hours ago, rambo said:

It was and I think it's good for foundational stuff in a field.  Especially in STEM.  They force these kids to take liberal arts classes and stretch what could be a 2 year program into 4 years and double the debt at overly inflated tuition thanks to the Fed subsidizing loans.  I really didn't need music listening, theater appreciation, etc...but yet they're forced upon freshman.  I'm just a fan of on the job training.  Immerse them in real world workings for 40 hours a week over 15 hours of class a week.  College teaches the black and white which is good but the majority of the world works in the grey.  Hardest and longest I ever had to study was for the CPA exam.  Professional licenses are where it's at. 

We've had college graduates with accounting degrees work for us and some of them can't even spell or produce legible hand writing and are completely clueless and ultimately we let them go.  We have an awesome staff accountant who has no degree and was basically trained from scratch by us and they're great. 

well said

11 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

I won't disparage Ken Burns, but history as entertainment misses all the depth

Useless "Depth”

is it interesting? To some. Is it useful? Doubtful

10 hours ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

The industry has been corrupted by a capitalist mentality, and I'm not using this as an opportunity to bash capitalism in general. I just don't think that kind of outlook has a place in education, where quality is paramount and the market still has to be somewhat exclusive.

The "industry” Was corrupted by the not capialist idea that everyone should be there

31 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

The "industry” Was corrupted by the not capialist idea that everyone should be there

That's actually part of what I'm talking about. It seems very capitalist to me to see education as a business venture and to want to sell it to everybody. A mentality of perpetual growth...

 

6 hours ago, BFit said:

So much agreed with this. When I went to college (for a year) I was going for wildlife and fisheries science. They sent me to PSU berks first and told me to do 2 years of gen Ed before going to main campus for my major classes. After a year of american literatary history and jazz history, I realized that college is basically 50% scam

Well they did teach you how to identify a deer skull so I guess it was worth it. 

9 hours ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

That's actually part of what I'm talking about. It seems very capitalist to me to see education as a business venture and to want to sell it to everybody. A mentality of perpetual growth...

 

No capitalism would hold school accountable to generate their own revenue...therefore not federal students loans... and private loans would be priced or denied accordingly

capitalism produces a good or service. It would say they students are customers, yes, but then a useless service (degree) would hurt the company and cease to exist

put the schools on the hook for the loans...capitalism is all about risk and return

"The purpose of education is to replace an empty mind with an open one." - Forbes.

 

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