June 10, 20214 yr Author Just now, Toastrel said: Kz! isn't racist. Here is he with a brown jackass. Weird. Barely coherent. Yep, it's a toaster post alright. Is this going to happen to my mind 50 years from now?
June 10, 20214 yr On 6/9/2021 at 10:02 AM, Alpha_TATEr said: edit - wait, wait, i forgot, i did get banned from extreme skins too. I have an account there. She's basically retarded so she fits right in.
June 10, 20214 yr On 6/9/2021 at 10:11 AM, Alpha_TATEr said: i posted a story from 6abc about an eagles fan getting jumped at fed ex. art cried & b*tched that it was an unfair portrayal of the dead tree crew even though they filmed the incident themselves and bragged about jumping opposing fans in it. what a champion of justice art is. My clone once asked "What's an Art?" to which one of their mods replied "About 400 lbs"
June 10, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, paco said: My clone once asked "What's an Art?" to which one of their mods replied "About 400 lbs" so art is an honorary hog ?
June 10, 20214 yr 20 hours ago, TEW said: The dead tree crew... now THERE is a blast from the past. Would any honest portrayal of them be flattering? "The Mayor" was a used car salesman How much you want to bet he rated himself:
June 10, 20214 yr 8 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said: so art is an honorary hog ? Sounds like they booted him as a mod and is a semi pariah.
June 11, 20214 yr There's a Philly Cheesesteak place here that is supposedly owned by a guy from Philly. Reviews have a few people from Philly or South Jersey saying it's good. They have wooder ice too. I'll have to check it out.
June 14, 20214 yr On 6/9/2021 at 9:52 AM, mikemack8 said: I got one warning right before the actual EMB shut down - for profanity in a meme Cause that rarely happens I do think this place is more lenient - you have to be a royal d-head to get banned I've been warned and suspended on the old board for profanity in memes(which is lame). Which is why I was so adamant that now that we're privately owned we should be able to have profanity in memes. Also because editing curse words out of memes is annoying as hell. So lately I've just put them in spoilers Lol I suggested we added an 18+ section to bring up traffic too which was strongly rejected
June 14, 20214 yr Author 16 hours ago, The_Omega said: The only question that remains is if she simply got an A++ for the presentation or if she was immediately hired as a professor and granted tenure.
June 15, 20214 yr There are racists in every group, and it would serve equality and justice better to deal with any hate, crime or injustice committed by anyone rather than have degrees of guilt or justification based on your skin color. Putting political affiliation or agendas aside, the idea of anyone hating a group so much that they target them randomly in attacks is horrifying. The anti-white rhetoric only adds fuel to the fire.
June 15, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, NOTW said: There are racists in every group, and it would serve equality and justice better to deal with any hate, crime or injustice committed by anyone rather than have degrees of guilt or justification based on your skin color. Putting political affiliation or agendas aside, the idea of anyone hating a group so much that they target them randomly in attacks is horrifying. The anti-white rhetoric only adds fuel to the fire. The entire concept of hate crimes having harsher penalties is absurd. Assault is assault. Murder is murder. One crime is not worse than another because of someone's motivation -- pre-mediated crime is always abhorrent.
June 15, 20214 yr 27 minutes ago, vikas83 said: The entire concept of hate crimes having harsher penalties is absurd. Assault is assault. Murder is murder. One crime is not worse than another because of someone's motivation -- pre-mediated crime is always abhorrent. The idea of a hate crime always reminds me of an old South Park episode where Cartman was told if he’s going to commit a crime against another person, he better make damn sure they’re the same color he is.
June 15, 20214 yr 31 minutes ago, vikas83 said: The entire concept of hate crimes having harsher penalties is absurd. Assault is assault. Murder is murder. One crime is not worse than another because of someone's motivation -- pre-mediated crime is always abhorrent. I never understood how murder was worse because of hatred. Or any crime.
June 15, 20214 yr 30 minutes ago, vikas83 said: The entire concept of hate crimes having harsher penalties is absurd. Assault is assault. Murder is murder. One crime is not worse than another because of someone's motivation -- pre-mediated crime is always abhorrent. My understanding is that the hate crime element only impacts sentencing, is that accurate? Basically it tried to codify sentencing guidelines around violence motivated by race/etc.? I'm not a lawyer and think in general we need to significantly reduce the amount of legislation across the board. But my impression wasn't that crimes were created by these laws, just adjusted parameters around how sentences are meted out.
June 15, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, JohnSnowsHair said: My understanding is that the hate crime element only impacts sentencing, is that accurate? Basically it tried to codify sentencing guidelines around violence motivated by race/etc.? I'm not a lawyer and think in general we need to significantly reduce the amount of legislation across the board. But my impression wasn't that crimes were created by these laws, just adjusted parameters around how sentences are meted out. Correct. And that is absurd. Getting more years in jail for a crime motivated by racism, or anti-LGBTQ, or whatever is fundamentally ridiculous. We are saying that people who were killed but not as part of a hate crime deserve less justice. Let's explain that to those families. "We're sorry Johnny was stabbed to death. But because the motivating factor wasn't race, the killer will get less jail time." Makes sense.
June 15, 20214 yr Just now, Toastrel said: I never understood how murder was worse because of hatred. Or any crime. I don't disagree in principle. But not all murders are created equal either. Someone who would arbitrarily kill someone because of their race seems more dangerous to society than someone who killed their spouse's adulterer, for example. Both are murder, and both are bad, but one of those two murderers seems to represent a broader risk to society than the other.
June 15, 20214 yr 5 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: I don't disagree in principle. But not all murders are created equal either. Someone who would arbitrarily kill someone because of their race seems more dangerous to society than someone who killed their spouse's adulterer, for example. Both are murder, and both are bad, but one of those two murderers seems to represent a broader risk to society than the other. Right. But also, harsher sentencing is meant to discourage behavior. Do you really want a bunch of people running around killing people because of their race? Probably not.
June 15, 20214 yr 5 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: I don't disagree in principle. But not all murders are created equal either. Someone who would arbitrarily kill someone because of their race seems more dangerous to society than someone who killed their spouse's adulterer, for example. Both are murder, and both are bad, but one of those two murderers seems to represent a broader risk to society than the other. Yeah, but this speaks more to the issue of a crime of passion vs. a random murder. If someone's killing people based on simply a hatred of the human race vs. the hatred of a specific race, it's equally as dangerous to society, but wouldn't necessarily be considered a hate crime.
June 15, 20214 yr 6 minutes ago, vikas83 said: Correct. And that is absurd. Getting more years in jail for a crime motivated by racism, or anti-LGBTQ, or whatever is fundamentally ridiculous. We are saying that people who were killed but not as part of a hate crime deserve less justice. Let's explain that to those families. "We're sorry Johnny was stabbed to death. But because the motivating factor wasn't race, the killer will get less jail time." Makes sense. In an ideal world, people who would kill arbitrarily based on race/sex/whatever would receive harsher sentences without requiring laws that provide guidelines for them. Practically speaking, when these laws were passed at least this was not something that was reliable. Pragmatism and libertarianism/live and let live'ism always are in tension. I don't understand why we don't just all get a modest supply of edibles each month and chill the f out. We'd all be better for it. 1 minute ago, Dave Moss said: Right. But also, harsher sentencing is meant to discourage behavior. Do you really want a bunch of people running around killing people because of their race? Probably not. Sure. Though I don't think harsher laws and penalties have ever been correlated with a reduction in violent crime.
June 15, 20214 yr Just now, JohnSnowsHair said: In an ideal world, people who would kill arbitrarily based on race/sex/whatever would receive harsher sentences without requiring laws that provide guidelines for them. Practically speaking, when these laws were passed at least this was not something that was reliable. Pragmatism and libertarianism/live and let live'ism always are in tension. I don't understand why we don't just all get a modest supply of edibles each month and chill the f out. We'd all be better for it. Define "modest." In California, they deliver 'em to my door.
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