4 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

What is taught is VERY dependent on the region. We have entire generations of people from certain ... regions .. of the nation that have been taught a very "patriotic" and watered down view of American history. I mean, FFS we have a US house rep who graduated from the University of George (in 1996 mind you) who claims to have no clue about the details of the Holocaust.

This is how we get people from different states and regions operating from an entirely different set of "facts" about this nation's history. 

Aside from empowering the federal Dept of Education to establish a standard curriculum nationally, which I suspect you might be against lol, I'm unsure how we as a society can deal with the educational drift here. If rural students are taught one version of history, and urban/suburban get a very different view, you're fragmenting the population in a way where cohesion is going to be even more difficult to maintain. Ideally every person is a rational actor and we broadly adopt the same sensible standards in each district, but we're far from that in reality. Local states and districts are choosing their version of the past to teach their kids at this point, rather than teaching from the same book. 

I mean, in a Constitutional Republic of states, that is their right. If parents have an issue with it, they should run for school board or vote for people that will change it. I'm very against national standards on education, as you surmised. 

I mean -- I knew plenty of people from below the Mason-Dixon line in college. Two of my closest friends were from Savannah. They liked to call it the "war of northern aggression" and all that, but they knew the history. 

If people want to be ignorant and raise ignorant children, that's their right. 

3 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

I mean, in a Constitutional Republic of states, that is their right. If parents have an issue with it, they should run for school board or vote for people that will change it. I'm very against national standards on education, as you surmised. 

I mean -- I knew plenty of people from below the Mason-Dixon line in college. Two of my closest friends were from Savannah. They liked to call it the "war of northern aggression" and all that, but they knew the history. 

If people want to be ignorant and raise ignorant children, that's their right. 

The War of Northern Aggression, huh. Just their white washing of actual history. I guess that's the history they teach their kids.

What gets me is those same people say they fly the Confederate Flag in honor of their Southern heritage. What heritage is that exactly? 

Well before Secession, each southern state had their own flag. It wasn't until after the South broke away from the Union that the Confederate Flag was created. So the claimed heritage is not about what happened before they broke away, but what happened after. Their claim of heritage is really about  Civil War and slavery. It can't be about anything else. The Confederate flag is a symbol of hatred and those who fly it are a bunch of racists and seditionists. 

19 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

you know that's from a book published in 1978?

And presented at the National Museum of African American History and Culture last year.

Because leftist nut jobs actually believe this crap.

1 hour ago, mikemack8 said:

Did you hear he had people over last weekend - and they sat around a table and talked - WITHOUT MASKS ON!   

I know it isn't much compared to you and Kz! fellating each other, but hey, to each his own.

 

We enjoyed it. We didn't do that for over  a year. We sat around tables outside, six feet apart, even in the winter. Seemed better than getting COVID.

 

Again, that's just us.

30 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

I know it isn't much compared to you and Kz! fellating each other, but hey, to each his own.

 

We enjoyed it. We didn't do that for over  a year. We sat around tables outside, six feet apart, even in the winter. Seemed better than getting COVID.

 

Again, that's just us.

How many of the people from that friend group have actually contracted covid?

Does anyone else hear a continual whine in this forum?

11 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

Does anyone else hear a continual whine in this forum?

It was just a question, pop pop. No need to get defensive. 

1 hour ago, vikas83 said:

Again, I have no idea what is going on in public schools (not poor). But what is going on in Manhattan private schools is bat crap insane, as I have posted. 

My larger question -- were there schools not teaching the history of slavery? That it was a bad thing? I know it's been a long time since I was in elementary school, but I remember being taught that (i) slavery happened and was a foundational aspect of the country at the time, (ii) abolitionist movements sprung up, (iii) the civil war happened and (iv) the 13th amendment abolished slavery. And all this was done without making the white kids feel as though they were responsible for the actions of their ancestors. We all understood that slavery was bad, racism is bad and it still impacts society today. Were there schools not teaching this? 

Seems clear from people like Marjorie Tinker Tailor Soldier Nutbag, people are not taught much about WW II, if they have to go to a Holocaust museum to figure things out.

4 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

Seems clear from people like Marjorie Tinker Tailor Soldier Nutbag, people are not taught much about WW II, if they have to go to a Holocaust museum to figure things out.

She seems like a D student to me.  Bet she doesn't know that Hitler served his country, wrote his own book, and was a crappy painter.

1 minute ago, Toastrel said:

Seems clear from people like Marjorie Tinker Tailor Soldier Nutbag, people are not taught much about WW II, if they have to go to a Holocaust museum to figure things out.

SPOILER ALERT:

Ignorant people will always be ignorant, no matter what we teach in schools. Most people are stupid. 

1 minute ago, vikas83 said:

SPOILER ALERT:

Ignorant people will always be ignorant, no matter what we teach in schools. Most people are stupid. 

Actually, according to figures I saw yesterday, about half of people in the USA (and elsewhere) below average intelligence.

24 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

Actually, according to figures I saw yesterday, about half of people in the USA (and elsewhere) below average intelligence.

are you trying to trigger me?

Just now, JohnSnowsHair said:

are you trying to trigger me?

That means half must be above average. And then there is that one very ordinary person.

Just now, Boogyman said:

That means half must be above average. And then there is that one very ordinary person.

some of ya'll need a lesson on average vs median

3 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

are you trying to trigger me?

Well, yeah. I wasn't trying to be mean.

😎

1 minute ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

some of ya'll need a lesson on average vs median

Issa joke though. 

We went over that yesterday, no? Or the day before?

Starting to see a pattern:

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Black man 'stabbed AutoZone employee because he felt the need to find a white male to kill after watching videos of police brutality'

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'Mr Hatchett told me that he had been watching Facebook videos of police shootings in other parts of the country and that he felt the need to find a white male to kill,' Mills told the court, according to WRBL.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8677723/Black-man-stabbed-AutoZone-employee-felt-need-white-male-kill.html

Blacks are being radicalized by the MSM's relentless anti-white propaganda. 

54 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Blacks are being radicalized by years of systemic racism and the police killing them when it is clearly not warranted

FYP

Yeah, it isn't shootings, the racism that makes them fear police stops, or the laws of the US specifically designed to F them over.

The media is the main problem they face today.

3 minutes ago, downundermike said:

FYP

So you just agreed that blacks have been radicalized. Which is hilarious because you're an ishlib. 

Just now, Toastrel said:

Yeah, it isn't shootings, the racism that makes them fear police stops, or the laws of the US specifically designed to F them over.

The media is the main problem they face today.

Which laws specifically are you referring to? And, no, the media isn't the main problem they face today. The media is one of the main problems that's driving racial hatred, causing tragedies like the Autozone attack and the racially motivated shootings I posted on the last page.

That took less time than expected

 

3 minutes ago, Kz! said:

So you just agreed that blacks have been radicalized. Which is hilarious because you're an ishlib. 

After 400 years of that ish I would be radicalized also.  But you keep acting like this has happened in the last 4 years.  Do you consider the Black Panthers radical ??  How about the Nation of Islam ?? Deacons of Defense ??

Do the rest of you hear that high-pitched whining?