Let's now wait for them try to classify coordination of the submission of false slates of electors in multiple states as "official acts" of a president. I'd love to hear it.

3 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Let's now wait for them try to classify coordination of the submission of false slates of electors in multiple states as "official acts" of a president. I'd love to hear it.

they're working on it. 

Welp the case has been remanded back to the trial court. Thus Trump can appeal again, thus effectively delaying this case for years. 

21 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said:

Here's the ruling. 22 pages.

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you linked your chrome reader.

 

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf

 

 

5 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

you linked your chrome reader.

 

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf

 

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7 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

you linked your chrome reader.

 

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf

 

Thanks. I deleted it.

Scotus says Trump is immune for his discussions with the DOJ and with the Vice President. Two counts in the indictment. Gone.

The official and unofficial acts is a hell of a grey area.

Wouldn't that conflict with the 14th amendment?

Talk about a banana republic.  Sheesh 

So Biden can have Trump assassinated? Do I have that right?

1 minute ago, Gannan said:

So Biden can have Trump assassinated? Do I have that right?

Yep, Seems that way. He is the commander and chief of the military. His orders to them are Official Acts of the President. Absolutely immunity.

 

3 minutes ago, Gannan said:

So Biden can have Trump assassinated? Do I have that right?

I'm really confused because of the grey area and also that it really seems like it'd conflict with the 14th amendment 

7 minutes ago, Gannan said:

So Biden can have Trump assassinated? Do I have that right?

Couldn't hurt to go ahead and do it and ask for permission later.

the flaw in this decision is that everything cheeto did in his "official" capacity was for himself personally. 

According to Sotomayor's dissent, Biden can absolutely have Trump killed, cancel the election and use the military to stay in power.

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Orders the Navy’s Seal Team 6 to assassinate a political rival? Immune. Organizes a military coup to hold onto power? Immune. Takes a bribe in exchange for a pardon? Immune. Immune, immune, immune.

Let the President violate the law, let him exploit the trappings of his office for personal gain, let him use his official power for evil ends. Because if he knew that he may one day face liability for breaking the law, he might not be as bold and fearless as we would like him to be. That is the majority’s message today.

The majority’s single-minded fixation on the President’s need for boldness and dispatch ignores the countervailing need for accountability and restraint. The Framers were not so single-minded. In the Federalist Papers, after "endeavor[ing] to show” that the Executive designed by the Constitution "combines … all the requisites to energy,” Alexander Hamilton asked a separate, equally important question: "Does it also combine the requisites to safety, in a republican sense, a due dependence on the people, a due responsibility?” The Federalist No. 77, p. 507 (J. Harvard Library ed. 2009). The answer then was yes, based in part upon the President’s vulnerability to "prosecution in the common course of law.” Ibid. The answer after today is no.

Never in the history of our Republic has a President had reason to believe that he would be immune from criminal prosecution if he used the trappings of his office to violate the criminal law. Moving forward, however, all former Presidents will be cloaked in such immunity. If the occupant of that office misuses official power for personal gain, the criminal law that the rest of us must abide will not provide a backstop.

With fear for our democracy, I dissent.

 

12 minutes ago, Gannan said:

According to Sotomayor's dissent, Biden can absolutely have Trump killed, cancel the election and use the military to stay in power.

 

did the majority opinion address this issue at all? 

Hmm, how is this good for anyone?

9 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

did the majority opinion address this issue at all? 

No, they seemed to have kicked the can down the road and left it up to the lower courts to decide that individually. I'd have been fine with the ruling had they put forth a rigorous test for lower courts to apply but they abdicated the most critical part of issuing a partial immunity ruling. Not that I'm surprised given the make up of the court and a certain lack of integrity some of the justices are known for.

Libtard tears in here are tremendous. Almost better than after the debate, but still top notch. You really love to see it.

Repubs would be flipping the F out if the roles were reversed and Biden had the list of indictments and convictions

I think we just have to all admit that the SC judges are the preeminent experts on all things constitutional. I, for one, always trust the experts. Don't you?

All decisions in the lower courts will end up back at SCOTUS but it will take years. This ruling adds quite a bit of danger to the stability of the country for the  upcoming decade at minimum. 

On the bright side, this ruling is a huge boon to the chances of Biden or whoever the Dem Presidential candidate may be in November.  The case the Trump's a dictator hellbent on transforming the US into a fascist sheethole has never been easier to make. 

6 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

On the bright side, this ruling is a huge boon to the chances of Biden or whoever the Dem Presidential candidate may be in November.  The case the Trump's a dictator hellbent on transforming the US into a fascist sheethole has never been easier to make. 

Not so sure how much it affects the swing vote but for sure it is a net plus for the Dems when it comes to voter turnout on Election Day.