December 7, 20214 yr Quote Oxford Schools Superintendent Tim Throne said at the news conference the shooting left him shocked. "It's devastating," he said. Throne declined to say why there were no metal detectors in the school, but did say that to his knowledge, metal detectors never came up in conversation prior to the shooting. "The vast majority of schools in America don't have metal detectors," Oakland County Sheriff Michael Bouchard said.
December 7, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, mr_hunt said: this conversation needs to change. again, its a disgusting thing to have to admit, but here we are. while all the debating goes on about who is at fault for this and that, there is a way to combat this lunacy.
December 7, 20214 yr My daughter went to a public school in Houston and they didn’t have metal detectors. Her new school doesn’t have metal detectors either and they had a school shooting back in September. Fwiw
December 7, 20214 yr Just now, Alpha_TATEr said: this conversation needs to change. again, its a disgusting thing to have to admit, but here we are. while all the debating goes on about who is at fault for this and that, there is a way to combat this lunacy. the gun culture is too strong in this country, man. school shootings happen...then there's a lot more talk than action....and the "solution" is to have active shooter drills in schools.
December 7, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said: this conversation needs to change. again, its a disgusting thing to have to admit, but here we are. while all the debating goes on about who is at fault for this and that, there is a way to combat this lunacy. Metal detectors and hiring the people to man them costs money. Are you willing to pay more in property taxes just to appease gun nuts?
December 7, 20214 yr Short of attempting to confiscate firearms from law abiding citizens, there's really not much you can do to prevent a shooting like this, when the parents show the complete and total lack of judgement that they did.
December 7, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, mr_hunt said: the gun culture is too strong in this country, man. school shootings happen...then there's a lot more talk than action....and the "solution" is to have active shooter drills in schools. i hate that the discussion even has to take place, but metal detectors could help keep the weapons from getting in the schools. it in no way solves the problem, though.
December 7, 20214 yr Just now, Alpha_TATEr said: i hate that the discussion even has to take place, but metal detectors could help keep the weapons from getting in the schools. it in no way solves the problem, though. they could definitely help, imo. but then you hear about school districts that can't even afford books for their students, let alone metal detectors.
December 7, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, Dave Moss said: Metal detectors and hiring the people to man them costs money. Are you willing to pay more in property taxes just to appease gun nuts? am i willing to pay more to save the lives of children ? yes. of course we could always counter the cost by cutting out the ridiculous layers of unnecessary administration in districts.
December 7, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Alpha_TATEr said: am i willing to pay more to save the lives of children ? yes. of course we could always counter the cost by cutting out the ridiculous layers of unnecessary administration in districts. Right. More than likely putting in metal detectors and staffing them with security guards costs you a few teachers though. My daughter’s high school has two buildings and about 8 different entrances.
December 7, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, mr_hunt said: they could definitely help, imo. but then you hear about school districts that can't even afford books for their students, let alone metal detectors. well in pa the concern on cost could go away with one simple thing, take revenue from pot sales. problem solved. Just now, Dave Moss said: Right. More than likely putting in metal detectors and staffing them with security guards costs you a few teachers. My daughter’s school has two building and about 8 different entrances. no not teachers, administrators.
December 7, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, Dave Moss said: Lol, uh huh nice to laugh about this isnt it ? maybe think of something that can help ? i did and you seem to concerned with money over lives. weird.
December 7, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, Alpha_TATEr said: nice to laugh about this isnt it ? maybe think of something that can help ? i did and you seem to concerned with money over lives. weird. Yeah, well…. I’ve seen this one before. They’re going to go for the lowest hanging fruit.
December 7, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said: nice to laugh about this isnt it ? maybe think of something that can help ? i did and you seem to concerned with money over lives. weird. Why come up with practical solutions when you can use school shootings to further your end goal of banning guns?
December 7, 20214 yr I actually worked at a school with metal detectors. It was in Lower Manhattan though.
December 7, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, Kz! said: Why come up with practical solutions when you can use school shootings to further your end goal of banning guns? Yeah, it’s not a practical solution for most schools. Even many urban ones. The schools that install them usually have gang violence concerns.
December 7, 20214 yr Metal detectors will do nothing. There are other entrances to schools. When I was in school (with metal detectors) kids used to put pens in the side entrances and then come back through that entrance. This was always so they could go get lunch at the local pizza shop but it's really easy to circumvent a metal detector at the front entrance.
December 7, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, Paul852 said: Metal detectors will do nothing. There are other entrances to schools. When I was in school (with metal detectors) kids used to put pens in the side entrances and then come back through that entrance. This was always so they could go get lunch at the local pizza shop but it's really easy to circumvent a metal detector at the front entrance. absolutely wrong.
December 7, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: Yeah, it’s not a practical solution for most schools. Even many urban ones. The schools that install them usually have gang violence concerns. again, the cost can be paid by tax revenue from pot sales. this claim that it isnt practical is an old claim that doesn't stand any longer.
December 7, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, Alpha_TATEr said: absolutely wrong. If a kid wants to get a gun into a school (or execute a mass shooting) he will get around the metal detectors. It's naïve to think otherwise.
December 7, 20214 yr Just now, Paul852 said: If a kid wants to get a gun into a school (or execute a mass shooting) he will get around the metal detectors. It's naïve to think otherwise. i didnt say that at all, you made the claim that metal detectors would do NOTHING, which is completely false.
December 7, 20214 yr Just now, Alpha_TATEr said: i didnt say that at all, you made the claim that metal detectors would do NOTHING, which is completely false. Yeah, you're right. They'd cost money.
December 7, 20214 yr Just now, Paul852 said: Yeah, you're right. They'd cost money. and ? use pot tax revenue.
December 7, 20214 yr 15 minutes ago, Kz! said: Why come up with practical solutions when you can use school shootings to further your end goal of banning guns? metal detectors in no way eliminate the problem, but they would definitely help matters. the issues that cause people to go nuts and the issue of those people getting access to guns can still be debated, in the meantime this could help.
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