20 hours ago, Kz! said:

Horrifying video from yet another school shooting today:

3 dead, six wounded at a school 30 miles north of Detroit. 

 

5 hours ago, Toastrel said:

I guess since Kz! is not spewing about this, the shooter was not black?

Time to take your metamucil and head off to bed 

The only thing Kz! seems to love more than Hanson, is posting about black crime.

20 hours ago, Kz! said:

Horrifying video from yet another school shooting today:

3 dead, six wounded at a school 30 miles north of Detroit. 

Did they ever confirm that it was the killer?

5 hours ago, Toastrel said:

I guess since Kz! is not spewing about this, the shooter was not black?

I'm the one who posted it initially, Admiral A. 

The 1st degree murder charges, and attempted 1st degree murder charges are a no brainer. The terrorism charges are sensationalist opportunism.

Accused murderer in Michigan plead not guilty to all charges, is not cooperating with authorities.

Parents should be charged as an accessory too.

 

3 minutes ago, toolg said:

Accused murderer in Michigan plead not guilty to all charges, is not cooperating with authorities.

Parents should be charged as an accessory too.

 

Buying guns for minors and acting as its "holder” until they become an adult is legal in a lot of states. Same thing that happened with Rittenhouse. Might be tough to prosecute.

The little evil dipsheet is pleading not guilty? Maybe he thinks the victims had heart attacks.

2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

The little evil dipsheet is pleading not guilty? Maybe he thinks the victims had heart attacks.

Insanity defense.  At this stage, it's probably the right move.

The rich thing about the parents buying a gun for their child is that his mother wrote an open letter to Trump thanking him for defending her right to bear arms then going on to complain about illegal immigrants getting free tutors while her son struggles in school since they can't afford a tutor. How about getting a tutor instead of a gun for the kid?

9 hours ago, Paul852 said:

The rich thing about the parents buying a gun for their child is that his mother wrote an open letter to Trump thanking him for defending her right to bear arms then going on to complain about illegal immigrants getting free tutors while her son struggles in school since they can't afford a tutor. How about getting a tutor instead of a gun for the kid?

Right? I imagine there will be lots of misplaced responsibility when it comes to these so-called parents.

11 hours ago, TEW said:

Buying guns for minors and acting as its "holder” until they become an adult is legal in a lot of states. Same thing that happened with Rittenhouse. Might be tough to prosecute.

I appreciate parents that want to teach their children about firearms. I owned a rifle when I was this kid's age (as in, it was given to me as a present, registered to my father). I learned how it worked, how to care for it, etc. Even though it was my rifle, I knew exactly where it was stored at all times... I never had any access to it. If I wanted to show my friends or take it to school, I couldn't. The thing is, I never wanted to either. Because I was taught responsibility and boundaries. I knew where it could be used and where it shouldn't. What did the parents teach this child that he was able to carry the firearm to school and hurt people? The best defense the parents have is they were careless or negligent... IMO, that is criminal in this case. 

There are four kids dead, more are seriously hurt. Somebody needs to be accountable. The kid is advised not to talk, the parents won't cooperate... Must be hiding something. Throw them all in jail. They are criminals.

Sounds like this kid may have been known to be trouble. 

 

12 hours ago, TEW said:

Buying guns for minors and acting as its "holder” until they become an adult is legal in a lot of states. Same thing that happened with Rittenhouse. Might be tough to prosecute.

If they can show they were negligent due to their sons past behavior? I think they can certainly be complicit in the crime, at least be held responsible for their negligence. 

Now  my mother purchased a 20 gauge shotgun for me when I was 12 for hunting. It's a bit different than a concealable pistol. 

the right: 

1 hour ago, Ipiggles said:

Sounds like this kid may have been known to be trouble. 

 

The parents knew their kid was a lunatic. They were meeting with school administrators about his behavior on literally the same day he snapped.

1 hour ago, Ipiggles said:

Now  my mother purchased a 20 gauge shotgun for me when I was 12 for hunting. It's a bit different than a concealable pistol. 

Absolutely. I had a rifle when I was 12, but I didn't touch a handgun until I was in my 20s.

Kid looks evil in his mugshot. Didn't know the father bought the gun for him. Makes no sense when the kid showed signs of trouble. I thought the father just bought the gun for himself and the kid took it

On 12/1/2021 at 8:39 AM, we_gotta_believe said:

There are rumors that there were some social media posts implying something like this was being planned, like a countdown or something. The mom of one of the kids that goes to the school said her kid asked to stay home because he heard yesterday was the day being talked about on social media. 

Those parents should have warned the school and/or police that their kids didn't feel safe going to school that day

4 hours ago, toolg said:

Right? I imagine there will be lots of misplaced responsibility when it comes to these so-called parents.

I appreciate parents that want to teach their children about firearms. I owned a rifle when I was this kid's age (as in, it was given to me as a present, registered to my father). I learned how it worked, how to care for it, etc. Even though it was my rifle, I knew exactly where it was stored at all times... I never had any access to it. If I wanted to show my friends or take it to school, I couldn't. The thing is, I never wanted to either. Because I was taught responsibility and boundaries. I knew where it could be used and where it shouldn't. What did the parents teach this child that he was able to carry the firearm to school and hurt people? The best defense the parents have is they were careless or negligent... IMO, that is criminal in this case. 

There are four kids dead, more are seriously hurt. Somebody needs to be accountable. The kid is advised not to talk, the parents won't cooperate... Must be hiding something. Throw them all in jail. They are criminals.

That’s not how the law works. Again, if you had paid attention to the Rittenhouse trial you’d know this. Exercising your right to remain silent isn’t evidence of guilt or culpability. It’s just smart.

2 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

The parents knew their kid was a lunatic. They were meeting with school administrators about his behavior on literally the same day he snapped.

And they didn’t lock up their guns??

 

3 hours ago, Ipiggles said:

If they can show they were negligent due to their sons past behavior? I think they can certainly be complicit in the crime, at least be held responsible for their negligence. 

Now  my mother purchased a 20 gauge shotgun for me when I was 12 for hunting. It's a bit different than a concealable pistol. 

My father did the same with an assortment of firearms at a younger age — everything from a red rider lever action to a pre Brady Bill AR-15. It’s not different legally, which is the issue here. The negligence will depend on the law, but the act of purchasing probably isn’t illegal. Now if they were aware of threats or something along those lines then maybe there is a case.

4 minutes ago, TEW said:

My father did the same with an assortment of firearms at a younger age — everything from a red rider lever action to a pre Brady Bill AR-15. It’s not different legally, which is the issue here. The negligence will depend on the law, but the act of purchasing probably isn’t illegal. Now if they were aware of threats or something along those lines then maybe there is a case.

The bolded is what I was talking about. If he was known to have behavioral issues? Then possibly criminal negligence?  To be fair I am not sure of the laws and would defer to someone who has more knowledge. 

Here is something I want to shout from the Rooftop:

Ethan Crmbley AND Darrell Brooks are both (alledged) domestic Terrorists. This isn't an either/or thing. The difference is, the MSM and progressives completely want to ignore the one instance and make it about a Red SUV, while spiking the football on the other instance. 

Also, mental illness is rampant, and until we can get back to having honest open conversations about it, this isn't going to end. (Wouldn't hurt if the media would also stop gaslighting)

12 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

Here is something I want to shout from the Rooftop:

Ethan Crmbley AND Darrell Brooks are both (alledged) domestic Terrorists. This isn't an either/or thing. The difference is, the MSM and progressives completely want to ignore the one instance and make it about a Red SUV, while spiking the football on the other instance. 

Also, mental illness is rampant, and until we can get back to having honest open conversations about it, this isn't going to end. (Wouldn't hurt if the media would also stop gaslighting)

Yep, ishlibs are all of a sudden ready to go in for a deep-dive into the school shooter's parent's social media, but won't even think about acknowledging the red SUV's social media history. Really makes you think. 

bring back public hangings 

37 minutes ago, TEW said:

The negligence will depend on the law, but the act of purchasing probably isn’t illegal. Now if they were aware of threats or something along those lines then maybe there is a case.

Ding ding, correct! I believe the parents knew their kid was a nutcase all along, prone to act out violently. yet they gave him access to firearms. We will have to wait to find out what the law says.