April 25, 20205 yr How does he stack up against Shelton Gibson when he was drafted would you say he's a better prospect than Gibson?
April 25, 20205 yr 2 hours ago, PoconoDon said: Duvernay had 103 catches, 2 drops and runs a 4.39 40. could've had him. I know im disgusted by that...
April 25, 20205 yr 2 hours ago, T-1000 said: Yep, because the 6th round is just loaded with WR's who are both extremely fast and have great hands. This is why I have no clue why people spend time and money watching college. Counting dudes from random D2 schools that occasionally get drafted, we have at least 300 eligible college teams with roster sizes that give them probably 7 WRs per squad. That’s over TWO THOUSAND receivers every single season (obvi all aren’t draft eligible) yet each yearly draft you’re lucky if there are twelve dudes that aren’t trash
April 25, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, thedanone82 said: How does he stack up against Shelton Gibson when he was drafted would you say he's a better prospect than Gibson? I don't think Gibson had Special Teams skills.
April 25, 20205 yr 3 hours ago, jsdarkstar said: https://www.nfl.com/prospects/john-hightower?id=32194849-4777-2208-dbaa-36c5bd7d164f 6'1 - 189 lbs. 4.43 40. Player Bio Hightower's speed is his calling card. In fact, he went to Hinds Community College in Mississippi to run track after high school, but ended up excelling in football (31 catches for 509 yards, seven TDs over two years) as well as on the track (finished fourth at the national JUCO meet in the 400-meter hurdles). He made an instant impact after transferring in 2018, starting four of 10 contests for the Broncos and posting 31 receptions for 504 yards (16.3 per) and six touchdowns. Hightower was a second-team All-Mountain West pick in 2019, leading his squad in receiving yards (51-953-18.5, eight TDs in 14 games, 13 starts) while also contributing to the run game on sweeps (16-154-9.6) and as the primary kick returner (26-639-24.6, one TD). Clement gone Sproles gone Aggy gone(end arounds in the playoffs got us chunk yardage or 1st downs) See the underlined info above. This guy basically averages a 1st down every time he runs an end around. I don't want to see Sanders or Scott returning kicks..we need them in the backfield. This guy can return kicks and run end arounds. They can teach him to "catch better". For a "average route runner".. he seems to get decent separation on go routes running away from Cbs.
April 26, 20205 yr 5 hours ago, PoconoDon said: Me too. point is, a WR's #1 job is to catch the ball. Why do the Eagles not agree with that? Why is a guy with poor ball skills worthy of being on the team at all? f'in Howie drives me nuts. Because if you notice what he left off this list, you will understand this year's draft. NOWHERE does it say "He must be very good at what he does."Howie Roseman said the day after losing to the Seahawks in the playoffs, he walked to Doug Pederson's office (and Andy Weidl's office) with a piece of paper that read: 1) Can he run? 2) Is he healthy? 3) Does he love to play? Shi* players can do the above 3.
April 26, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, Talonblood said: Because if you notice what he left off this list, you will understand this year's draft. NOWHERE does it say "He must be very good at what he does."Howie Roseman said the day after losing to the Seahawks in the playoffs, he walked to Doug Pederson's office (and Andy Weidl's office) with a piece of paper that read: 1) Can he run? 2) Is he healthy? 3) Does he love to play? Hopefully he is very good at what he does too. We're gonna find out at some point.
April 26, 20205 yr 8 hours ago, PoconoDon said: Hopefully he is very good at what he does too. We're gonna find out at some point. Yeah hopefully he is. I actually think Watkins is a better WR but hey let's see when they battle it out. Ideally both make it right?
April 26, 20205 yr 18 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: Yeah hopefully he is. I actually think Watkins is a better WR but hey let's see when they battle it out. Ideally both make it right? I read a quote from John Clark that they were debating to take either Hightower or Watkins at 168 and they went with Hightower. Then all of a sudden at 200, Watkins was still there so they took him too. I doubt both these guys make the roster especially with the Goodwin trade and if he can remain healthy. If these guys (especially Watkins) fall this far with speed like that, there’s probably a major reason for it. We have 5 burners at WR now. Let’s cross our fingers that 4 of them make it!
April 26, 20205 yr 4 minutes ago, hputenis said: Let’s cross our fingers that 4 of them make it! Hell 3 would be a major step forwards and I doubt 4 make it...
April 26, 20205 yr 21 minutes ago, hputenis said: I read a quote from John Clark that they were debating to take either Hightower or Watkins at 168 and they went with Hightower. Then all of a sudden at 200, Watkins was still there so they took him too. I doubt both these guys make the roster especially with the Goodwin trade and if he can remain healthy. If these guys (especially Watkins) fall this far with speed like that, there’s probably a major reason for it. We have 5 burners at WR now. Let’s cross our fingers that 4 of them make it! I think Goodwin will be in the same boat the draftees are in. I don’t think a release will cost us cap space, and they only swapped 6th rounders to get him, so there wasn’t a net loss of assets. I’d say he’s far from a lock to make the team.
April 26, 20205 yr 2 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: Hell 3 would be a major step forwards and I doubt 4 make it... I’ll answer a couple of your questions bud seems a good chance he makes it. For the few highlights/stats I saw seems to be a good returner and we need that. also appears to be good at running the jet sweeps which we ran a fair amount of with aggy. Factor in that atleast at this point I would saw we are a little light at rb maybe we keep an extra wr this year instead of an extra rb.
April 26, 20205 yr 5 minutes ago, Cheesteakitis said: I’ll answer a couple of your questions bud seems a good chance he makes it. For the few highlights/stats I saw seems to be a good returner and we need that. also appears to be good at running the jet sweeps which we ran a fair amount of with aggy. Factor in that atleast at this point I would saw we are a little light at rb maybe we keep an extra wr this year instead of an extra rb. Cheers bud appreciate that. But then what about Watkins? Slightly smaller but faster. I happen to really like Watkins.
April 26, 20205 yr Looks like he gets better separation over Wakins with less speed. I dont see that big burst or acceleration like i do with Watkins but he gets open more and doesnt get caught from behind like I saw in Watkins film. Nice run after the cth ability, good on Jet Sweeps which could translate as well into screens. I do see him as more of a body catch guy. Only saw a handful of hand catch plays, most he drawls in to the chest and catch with arms.
April 26, 20205 yr 5 hours ago, hputenis said: I read a quote from John Clark that they were debating to take either Hightower or Watkins at 168 and they went with Hightower. Then all of a sudden at 200, Watkins was still there so they took him too. I doubt both these guys make the roster especially with the Goodwin trade and if he can remain healthy. If these guys (especially Watkins) fall this far with speed like that, there’s probably a major reason for it. We have 5 burners at WR now. Let’s cross our fingers that 4 of them make it! With the idea that Alshon is on IR, I see the WR room as: Djax Reagor JJaw with the last 3 spots up for grabs between Hightower Watkins Goodwin and Ward and they keep 6. If Alshon is healthy then there’s only 2 spots for grabs.
April 26, 20205 yr Just now, Outlaw said: With the idea that Alshon is on IR, I see the WR room as: Djax Reagor JJaw Hightower Watkins/Goodwin/Ward Watkins/Goodwin/Ward and they keep 6. They could keep 7 you know? With the increase in roster to 55 albeit with some strange PS element to the additional 2 players.
April 26, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: They could keep 7 you know? With the increase in roster to 55 albeit with some strange PS element to the additional 2 players. I edited my post. Check it out. I’m only talking about the active roster.
April 26, 20205 yr 4 minutes ago, Outlaw said: With the idea that Alshon is on IR, I see the WR room as: Djax Reagor JJaw with the last 3 spots up for grabs between Hightower Watkins Goodwin and Ward and they keep 6. If Alshon is healthy then there’s only 2 spots for grabs. Even with that, Moorehead has his hands full for sure. He will earn his money this year. They really should hire another WR coach to be his assistant to spread it out. Not even joking on that.
April 26, 20205 yr 26 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said: Even with that, Moorehead has his hands full for sure. He will earn his money this year. They really should hire another WR coach to be his assistant to spread it out. Not even joking on that. If it works out hes gonna have every team in the league after him though
April 26, 20205 yr 20 hours ago, thedanone82 said: How does he stack up against Shelton Gibson when he was drafted would you say he's a better prospect than Gibson? PROSPECT RANKINGS (NFL.COM) Hightower - 5.67 Gibson - 5.56 LENGTH Hightower - 6’1”, 31.75” arms Gibson - 5’11”, 32” arms SPEED Similar, although Gibson’s Combine time was really poor for a speedster. There are differing reports as to why. Some have even said the clock was wrong. STRENGTH Gibson was stronger, but mostly because Hightower is currently weak by NFL standards. Hightower didn’t bench press at the Combine. JUMPING Hightower posted better numbers in vertical and broad jump THREE CONE DRILL Gibson posted better number in the 3-cone drill. COLLEGE PRODUCTION Similar. Hightower caught a few more passes. Gibson’s YPC was higher. DEVELOPMENT Hightower only spent two years at Boise St after transferring from junior college. Gibson declared after his junior season. Neither were considered to be close to finished products. CONCLUSION As physical traits go, the two look very similar. NFL.com has Hightower as the slightly better prospect.. The Eagles were excited about Gibson on draft day. Correct me if I’m wrong, but haven’t they always been less than thrilled with his work ethic?
April 26, 20205 yr 8 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: Hell 3 would be a major step forwards and I doubt 4 make it... I'll settle for two that can also excel at special teams.
April 27, 20205 yr On 4/25/2020 at 12:17 PM, PoconoDon said: Me too. point is, a WR's #1 job is to catch the ball. Why do the Eagles not agree with that? Why is a guy with poor ball skills worthy of being on the team at all? f'in Howie drives me nuts. Eagles probably can teach ball skills...but no one can teach speed. This kid has speed.
April 27, 20205 yr 40 minutes ago, Traveler Vic said: Eagles probably can teach ball skills...but no one can teach speed. This kid has speed. We hope so. I've heard good things about Moorehead.
April 27, 20205 yr On 4/25/2020 at 3:26 PM, jsdarkstar said: Speed is all that matters. Production has been flushed down the toilet. Agreed. Speed kills in the NFL.
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