June 28, 20214 yr 33 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said: They didn’t even throw him into the river to see if he floats! Well since murder is real and witchcraft is not, I don't think we will look back on this in couple centuries and think anything special of it. Again, your analogy is bad and you should feel bad.
June 28, 20214 yr 57 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said: They didn’t even throw him into the river to see if he floats! Wait, are we comparing the Chauvin trial to the Salem Witch Trials? When you think you've seen peak delusion someone comes around and blows it out of the water.
June 28, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said: They didn’t even throw him into the river to see if he floats!
June 28, 20214 yr 16 minutes ago, Paul852 said: Wait, are we comparing the Chauvin trial to the Salem Witch Trials? When you think you've seen peak delusion someone comes around and blows it out of the water. Well obviously if he sinks, he has a big heart and couldn’t have possibly intended to kill him, hence it must’ve been manslaughter
June 28, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said: They didn’t even throw him into the river to see if he floats! that fact that anyone gives you and your piss poor kz impressions any attention, is astounding.
June 28, 20214 yr Yes, Floyd was a piece of crap, and so is Chauvin. Trouble is Chauvin killed Floyd , not the other way around. Chauvin got probably less than what he deserved imo and I don't hate cops.
June 28, 20214 yr 8 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said: that fact that anyone gives you and your piss poor kz impressions any attention, is astounding. The fact that so few people can recognize a mass hysteria even after mankind has experienced it time and again throughout history is astounding
June 28, 20214 yr 16 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said: The fact that so few people can recognize a mass hysteria even after mankind has experienced it time and again throughout history is astounding You just must be more woke than all the rest of us. 🙄
June 28, 20214 yr 19 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said: The fact that so few people can recognize a mass hysteria even after mankind has experienced it time and again throughout history is astounding
June 28, 20214 yr "Man kills guy on video, gets convicted of murder. Does this signal the breakdown of society? Story at Five"
June 28, 20214 yr 9 minutes ago, Boogyman said: "Man kills guy on video, gets convicted of murder. Does this signal the breakdown of society? Story at Five" Usually you find these stories on the back page in small print
June 28, 20214 yr 3 hours ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said: Every case is fact dependent. On the one hand, Garner shouldn’t have sold illegal cigarettes and should not have resisted arrest. On the other hand, the police used a prohibited choke hold. On the other hand Garner had health issues which may have been the cause of his ultimate demise. In that case there’s a question of law. If someone dies and an illegal police act merely "contributes” to someone’s death, is that murder? I would be happy to re-examine that law if not the case Maybe we need like a health "Miranda rights” where an officer must ask if a person has any health issues before making an arrest? Chauvin used a technique which was not an illegal choke hold. The knee on neck technique was in the manual We return to my original question. Can you name a single case where a black guy dies near a police officer and it’s not the officers fault? Should we just never arrest black people in case they might have a heart attack at the time of arrest? Chauvin used a knee to the neck while in the prone position which violated Police Policy and Training. So yeah, that move was not legal or authorized. So, can you name a case where a Police officer is actually held responsible for killing a black guy? Just one? I didn't think so. It's clear that no matter what cops do, it's ok to kill black guys. No matter the circumstances. You will always find an excuse for the Police. White Supremacy.
June 28, 20214 yr Just now, jsdarkstar said: Chauvin used a knee to the neck while in the prone position which violated Police Policy and Training. So yeah, that move was not legal or authorized. So, can you name a case where a Police officer is actually held responsible for killing a black guy? Just one? I didn't think so. It's clear that no matter what cops do, it's ok to kill black guys. No matter the circumstances. You will always find an excuse for the Police. White Supremacy. No but I can’t name a case where an officer is held responsible for killing a white guy either, and I’m not arguing police should never be held accountable, only that in the case of Chauvin it wasn’t intentional and that he should get whatever the normal punishment is for police who unintentionally kill a person regardless of color However I would grant that Kim Potter does deserve punishment for accidentally killing that black kid. Mistaking a gun for a taser is the very sort of out of this world incompetence that does actually deserve punishment
June 28, 20214 yr 4 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said: No but I can’t name a case where an officer is held responsible for killing a white guy either, and I’m not arguing police should never be held accountable, only that in the case of Chauvin it wasn’t intentional and that he should get whatever the normal punishment is for police who unintentionally kill a person regardless of color However I would grant that Kim Potter does deserve punishment for accidentally killing that black kid. Mistaking a gun for a taser is the very sort of out of this world incompetence that does actually deserve punishment YEAH, that's exactly what you are arguing. Because the victim robbed a store, or the victim had some sort of health condition or the victim was on drugs, or the victim resisted, then the officer shouldn't be responsible for the victim's death. That's exactly what you are saying. You accept the Defense Argument even though the Jury dismissed it based on the evidence presented. You don't believe Chauvin should be found guilty because he didn't do anything wrong. That says a lot about you. However, In this case, Intent is not an element of the crime charged. Not all murder is intentional. In this case 2nd degree murder is felony murder. Chauvin was found guilty of assaulting George Floyd. The Assault is a Felony. During the commission of the enumerated felony (assault) if the victim dies, you are guilty of the murder. That is the Felony murder rule in Minnesota.
June 28, 20214 yr 9 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said: YEAH, that's exactly what you are arguing. Because the victim robbed a store, or the victim had some sort of health condition or the victim was on drugs, or the victim resisted, then the officer shouldn't be responsible for the victim's death. That's exactly what you are saying. You accept the Defense Argument even though the Jury dismissed it based on the evidence presented. You don't believe Chauvin should be found guilty because he didn't do anything wrong. That says a lot about you. However, In this case, Intent is not an element of the crime charged. Not all murder is intentional. In this case 2nd degree murder is felony murder. Chauvin was found guilty of assaulting George Floyd. The Assault is a Felony. During the commission of the enumerated felony (assault) if the victim dies, you are guilty of the murder. That is the Felony murder rule in Minnesota. Assault is a misdemeanor https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/609.224
June 28, 20214 yr 9 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said: Assault is a misdemeanor https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/609.224 Wrong. That link is for Assault in the 5th Degree. Please. Nice Try. https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/609.19 CRIMES AGAINST THE PERSON 609.221 ASSAULT IN THE FIRST DEGREE. 609.222 ASSAULT IN THE SECOND DEGREE. 609.223 ASSAULT IN THE THIRD DEGREE. 609.2231 ASSAULT IN THE FOURTH DEGREE. 609.2232 CONSECUTIVE SENTENCES FOR ASSAULTS COMMITTED BY STATE PRISON INMATES. 609.2233 FELONY ASSAULT MOTIVATED BY BIAS; INCREASED STATUTORY MAXIMUM SENTENCE. 609.224 ASSAULT IN THE FIFTH DEGREE. 609.19 MURDER IN THE SECOND DEGREE. § Subdivision 1.Intentional murder; drive-by shootings. Whoever does either of the following is guilty of murder in the second degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 40 years: (1) causes the death of a human being with intent to effect the death of that person or another, but without premeditation; or (2) causes the death of a human being while committing or attempting to commit a drive-by shooting in violation of section 609.66, subdivision 1e, under circumstances other than those described in section 609.185, paragraph (a), clause (3). Subd. 2.Unintentional murders. Whoever does either of the following is guilty of unintentional murder in the second degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 40 years: (1) causes the death of a human being, without intent to effect the death of any person, while committing or attempting to commit a felony offense other than criminal sexual conduct in the first or second degree with force or violence or a drive-by shooting; or (2) causes the death of a human being without intent to effect the death of any person, while intentionally inflicting or attempting to inflict bodily harm upon the victim, when the perpetrator is restrained under an order for protection and the victim is a person designated to receive protection under the order. As used in this clause, "order for protection" includes an order for protection issued under chapter 518B; a harassment restraining order issued under section 609.748; a court order setting conditions of pretrial release or conditions of a criminal sentence or juvenile court disposition; a restraining order issued in a marriage dissolution action; and any order issued by a court of another state or of the United States that is similar to any of these orders. https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/609.221 609.221 ASSAULT IN THE FIRST DEGREE. Subdivision 1.Great bodily harm. Whoever assaults another and inflicts great bodily harm may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 20 years or to payment of a fine of not more than $30,000, or both.
June 28, 20214 yr 6 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said: Wrong. That link is for Assault in the 5th Degree. Please. https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/609.19 2020 Minnesota Statutes Authenticate PDF Resources Search Minnesota Statutes About Minnesota Statutes 2020 Statutes New, Amended or Repealed 2020 Table of Chapters 2020 Statutes Topics (Index) Chapter 609 Table of Sections Full Chapter Text Version List Section 609.19 Version List Topics Crimes Domestic abuse Drive-by shootings Murder Recent History 2015 Subd. 1 Amended 2015 c 21 art 1 s 99 1998 Subd. 1 Amended 1998 c 367 art 2 s 8 1996 609.19 Amended 1996 c 408 art 4 s 8 1995 609.19 Amended 1995 c 226 art 2 s 16 609.19 MURDER IN THE SECOND DEGREE. § Subdivision 1.Intentional murder; drive-by shootings. Whoever does either of the following is guilty of murder in the second degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 40 years: (1) causes the death of a human being with intent to effect the death of that person or another, but without premeditation; or (2) causes the death of a human being while committing or attempting to commit a drive-by shooting in violation of section 609.66, subdivision 1e, under circumstances other than those described in section 609.185, paragraph (a), clause (3). Subd. 2.Unintentional murders. Whoever does either of the following is guilty of unintentional murder in the second degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 40 years: (1) causes the death of a human being, without intent to effect the death of any person, while committing or attempting to commit a felony offense other than criminal sexual conduct in the first or second degree with force or violence or a drive-by shooting; or (2) causes the death of a human being without intent to effect the death of any person, while intentionally inflicting or attempting to inflict bodily harm upon the victim, when the perpetrator is restrained under an order for protection and the victim is a person designated to receive protection under the order. As used in this clause, "order for protection" includes an order for protection issued under chapter 518B; a harassment restraining order issued under section 609.748; a court order setting conditions of pretrial release or conditions of a criminal sentence or juvenile court disposition; a restraining order issued in a marriage dissolution action; and any order issued by a court of another state or of the United States that is similar to any of these orders. https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/609.221 609.221 ASSAULT IN THE FIRST DEGREE. Subdivision 1.Great bodily harm. Whoever assaults another and inflicts great bodily harm may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 20 years or to payment of a fine of not more than $30,000, or both. Fine then intent is back in play Subd. 10.Assault. "Assault" is: (1) an act done with intent to cause fear in another of immediate bodily harm or death; or (2) the intentional infliction of or attempt to inflict bodily harm upon another.
June 28, 20214 yr 40 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said: No but I can’t name a case where an officer is held responsible for killing a white guy either, and I’m not arguing police should never be held accountable, only that in the case of Chauvin it wasn’t intentional and that he should get whatever the normal punishment is for police who unintentionally kill a person regardless of color However I would grant that Kim Potter does deserve punishment for accidentally killing that black kid. Mistaking a gun for a taser is the very sort of out of this world incompetence that does actually deserve punishment Excellent trolling sir. You snagged a bunch
June 28, 20214 yr Just now, Mike030270 said: Excellent trolling sir. You snagged a bunch Nice try at reverse trolling, you won’t get me that easily
June 28, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said: Fine then intent is back in play Subd. 10.Assault. "Assault" is: (1) an act done with intent to cause fear in another of immediate bodily harm or death; or (2) the intentional infliction of or attempt to inflict bodily harm upon another. Wrong. Again. There are degrees of assault in Minnesota. You are arguing Assault in the 5th Degree to prove your point. However that is clearly wrong as I have stated. Assault in the Frist Degree is a Felony punishable by up to 20 years in prison. I think the Prosecutors in Minnesota know the law better than you. Here. Read and learn and stop spewing BS. CRIMES AGAINST THE PERSON 609.221 ASSAULT IN THE FIRST DEGREE. 609.222 ASSAULT IN THE SECOND DEGREE. 609.223 ASSAULT IN THE THIRD DEGREE. 609.2231 ASSAULT IN THE FOURTH DEGREE. 609.2232 CONSECUTIVE SENTENCES FOR ASSAULTS COMMITTED BY STATE PRISON INMATES. 609.2233 FELONY ASSAULT MOTIVATED BY BIAS; INCREASED STATUTORY MAXIMUM SENTENCE. 609.224 ASSAULT IN THE FIFTH DEGREE.
June 28, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said: Nice try at reverse trolling, you won’t get me that easily Nice try at spewing BS. Try using actual facts first before you post. 609.221 ASSAULT IN THE FIRST DEGREE. Subdivision 1.Great bodily harm. Whoever assaults another and inflicts great bodily harm may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 20 years or to payment of a fine of not more than $30,000, or both.
June 28, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said: Wrong. Again. There are degrees of assault in Minnesota. You are arguing Assault in the 5th Degree to prove your point. However that is clearly wrong as I have stated. Assault in the Frist Degree is a Felony punishable by up to 20 years in prison. I think the Prosecutors in Minnesota know the law better than you. Here. Read and learn and stop spewing BS. CRIMES AGAINST THE PERSON 609.221 ASSAULT IN THE FIRST DEGREE. 609.222 ASSAULT IN THE SECOND DEGREE. 609.223 ASSAULT IN THE THIRD DEGREE. 609.2231 ASSAULT IN THE FOURTH DEGREE. 609.2232 CONSECUTIVE SENTENCES FOR ASSAULTS COMMITTED BY STATE PRISON INMATES. 609.2233 FELONY ASSAULT MOTIVATED BY BIAS; INCREASED STATUTORY MAXIMUM SENTENCE. 609.224 ASSAULT IN THE FIFTH DEGREE. Gotta read the definitions for every chapter, check section 609.02 also see what "great bodily harm” means while you’re there
June 28, 20214 yr Try reading the Minnesota Criminal Complaint against Chauvin. https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6935897-Derek-Chauvin-Second-degree-murder-charge
June 28, 20214 yr 5 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said: Try reading the Minnesota Criminal Complaint against Chauvin. https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6935897-Derek-Chauvin-Second-degree-murder-charge Currently we are arguing the second degree murder charge. Let’s stick to that. Did you read the definitions? Do you base your guilty verdicts only on complaints?
June 28, 20214 yr Just now, Seventy_Yard_FG said: Currently we are arguing the second degree murder charge. Let’s stick to that. Did you read the definitions? Do you base your guilty verdicts only on complaints? No currently, I'm stating that your definition of assault is BS. You just need to stop. He was found guilty. Suck on it.
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