February 6, 20223 yr Can't for the life of me figure out why our public education system is churning out gender confused ishlibs who hate the country. This is the behavior of an abusive cult.
February 7, 20223 yr Those promoting anti CRT Rhetoric support the following... Ban on teaching about Slavery. Ban on teaching about Civil Rights. Ban on teaching about Environmental Science. Ban on teaching about Religion other than Christianity. Ban on teaching about the Holocaust. Ban on teaching about Native Americans. Ban on teaching about Police Brutality. Ban on teaching about Sexuality. Ban on teaching about the Civil War and casting the Confederacy in a negative light. Only the Pro White Version of history may be discussed. Brought to you by the Pleasantville Chamber of Commerce. THE PLEASANTVILLE CODE OF CONDUCT 1. All public disruption and acts of vandalism are to cease immediately. 2. All citizens of Pleasantville are to treat one another in a courteous and "pleasant” manner … 3. The area commonly known as Lover’s Lane as well as the Pleasantville Public Library shall be closed until further notice. 4. The only permissible recorded music shall be the following: Pat Boone, Johnny Mathis, Perry Como, Jack Jones, marches of John Phillips Souza or the Star Spangled Banner. In no event shall any music be tolerated that is not of a temperate or "pleasant” nature. 5. There shall be no public sale of umbrellas or preparation for inclement weather of any kind. 6. No bedframe or mattress may be sold measuring more than 38 inches wide. 7. The only permissible exterior paint colors shall be BLACK, WHITE or GRAY, despite the recent availability of certain alternatives. 8. All elementary and high school curriculums shall teach the "non-changist” view of history–emphasizing "continuity” over "alteration.”
February 14, 20223 yr On 2/7/2022 at 11:21 AM, jsdarkstar said: Those promoting anti CRT Rhetoric support the following... Ban on teaching about Slavery. Ban on teaching about Civil Rights. Ban on teaching about Environmental Science. Ban on teaching about Religion other than Christianity. Ban on teaching about the Holocaust. Ban on teaching about Native Americans. Ban on teaching about Police Brutality. Ban on teaching about Sexuality. Ban on teaching about the Civil War and casting the Confederacy in a negative light. Only the Pro White Version of history may be discussed. Brought to you by the Pleasantville Chamber of Commerce. THE PLEASANTVILLE CODE OF CONDUCT 1. All public disruption and acts of vandalism are to cease immediately. 2. All citizens of Pleasantville are to treat one another in a courteous and "pleasant” manner … 3. The area commonly known as Lover’s Lane as well as the Pleasantville Public Library shall be closed until further notice. 4. The only permissible recorded music shall be the following: Pat Boone, Johnny Mathis, Perry Como, Jack Jones, marches of John Phillips Souza or the Star Spangled Banner. In no event shall any music be tolerated that is not of a temperate or "pleasant” nature. 5. There shall be no public sale of umbrellas or preparation for inclement weather of any kind. 6. No bedframe or mattress may be sold measuring more than 38 inches wide. 7. The only permissible exterior paint colors shall be BLACK, WHITE or GRAY, despite the recent availability of certain alternatives. 8. All elementary and high school curriculums shall teach the "non-changist” view of history–emphasizing "continuity” over "alteration.”
February 16, 20223 yr Parents: Just quit indoctrinating our children. Public school teachers: Best I can do is pressure them into transgenderism.
February 16, 20223 yr On 2/14/2022 at 9:57 AM, Kz! said: Kind of goes against everything the "But Muh CRTs!!!" crowd is claiming. This curricula seems very tame and well-grounded and does not support the sensationalism coming out of the right. The only criticism I might have is that this stuff is still probably too heavy or complex for K-8 to actively and fruitfully participate in. It's probably best suited to high-school classrooms.
February 16, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Kind of goes against everything the "But Muh CRTs!!!" crowd is claiming. This curricula seems very tame and well-grounded and does not support the sensationalism coming out of the right. The only criticism I might have is that this stuff is still probably too heavy or complex for K-8 to actively and fruitfully participate in. It's probably best suited to high-school classrooms. Yes, elementary school is a great place for indoctrinating children with lessons about "white privilege" and "the circle of oppression." And this is coming from a public school teacher. Our country is so effed.
February 16, 20223 yr On 2/6/2022 at 9:34 AM, Kz! said: Can't for the life of me figure out why our public education system is churning out gender confused ishlibs who hate the country. This is the behavior of an abusive cult. Yeah! Hating our country is your thing. They're honing in on your turf!
February 16, 20223 yr 19 minutes ago, Kz! said: Yes, elementary school is a great place for indoctrinating children with lessons about "white privilege" and "the circle of oppression." And this is coming from a public school teacher. Our country is so effed. Except I just said elementary school is too early for kids to work with with these topics effectively.
February 16, 20223 yr 11 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Except I just said elementary school is too early for kids to work with with these topics effectively. Or how about just never teach retarded liberal indoctrination in public schools at all? If kids want to learn about that stuff they can take black oppression 101 at their community college when they graduate.
February 16, 20223 yr We can't teach kids math or basic writing skills. Maybe pump the breaks on adding new stuff until we get better at the basics.
February 16, 20223 yr 20 minutes ago, Kz! said: Or how about just never teach retarded liberal indoctrination in public schools at all? If kids want to learn about that stuff they can take black oppression 101 at their community college when they graduate. Again, there should be absolutely nothing controversial about these learning goals, unless you're a triggered white boy from backcountry VA. Please go line-by-line and tell me which points trigger you the most and why they so deeply offend you.
February 16, 20223 yr 37 minutes ago, hukdonfoniks said: Yeah middle school is definitely a better time for the circle of oppression I think a good amount of eighth-graders could responsibly handle this discussion, probably not much younger than that, though. Personally, I would save the stuff for high school. It seems like you guys get hung up on terminology a lot. "Privilege and Oppression Circle" might sound scary to someone whose mind is closed to these topics, but when you look at the activity, it's literally nothing more than accounting for how these things exist and taking stock of how they have affected our lives.
February 16, 20223 yr 39 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: More importantly. The funny thing is that, even if this was faked, the document itself really doesn't contain anything demonstrating the kind of wild accusations that conservatives associate with everything they throw under the banner of "CRT." So, swing and a miss either way
February 16, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: The funny thing is that, even if this was faked, the document itself really doesn't contain anything demonstrating the kind of wild accusations that conservatives associate with everything they throw under the banner of "CRT." So, swing and a miss either way I disagree. If it’s true, it’s racist BS that shouldn’t be taught in K-8. It’s just that you’d have to be a true idiot to believe anything the right runs with at race value.
February 16, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: I disagree. If it’s true, it’s racist BS that shouldn’t be taught in K-8. It’s just that you’d have to be a true idiot to believe anything the right runs with at race value. Sorry, I don't see it. If the main premise is ""We derive benefits from being male or white or straight or able-bodied wiithout taking any personal action against a woman, a person of color, etc." that is fundamentally true and I don't see how deconstructing this is harmful or misguided, so long as it is properly contextualized and the discussion is well-managed for the right age group. But I think 8th grade is the absolute earliest that kids could really engage these topics effectively.
February 16, 20223 yr 13 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: I think a good amount of eighth-graders could responsibly handle this discussion, probably not much younger than that, though. Personally, I would save the stuff for high school. It seems like you guys get hung up on terminology a lot. "Privilege and Oppression Circle" might sound scary to someone whose mind is closed to these topics, but when you look at the activity, it's literally nothing more than accounting for how these things exist and taking stock of how they have affected our lives. Do you think little white children should be taught that they need redemption from being born into a system that both privileges them and hurts them, both personally and collectively?
February 16, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, hukdonfoniks said: Do you think little white children should be taught that they need to be redeemed from being born into a system that hurts them, both personally and collectively? I think the idea of "redemption" is where you do get into some troubled waters. I don't think we need to make kids people feel bad about any kind of inherited privilege and demand that they self-flagellate over it. I think we need to acknowledge that certain advantages accrue to groups of people in certain situations, but in terms of making people feel personally responsible for the mere fact that they exist and that they benefit from them, I think that's off base. Where I maybe give a little ground on this point is that, even if we're not responsible for the existence of privilege, we are responsible for doing what we can level the playing field going forward. It's really just another form of mindfulness and compassion.
February 16, 20223 yr These topics are also easy avenues for engagement in courses that otherwise might see low student participation/interest. So many kids think of history as "boring" because the topics and historical figures are too distant and arcane to be relatable. But social and cultural history provides good grounds for academic discussions that can engage a wider cross-section of a classroom, because students more readily feel its immediacy to their lives. You don't have to really dig deep to frame them as relevant.
February 16, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: I think the idea of "redemption" is where you do get into some troubled waters. I don't think we need to make kids people feel bad about any kind of inherited privilege and demand that they self-flagellate over it. I think we need to acknowledge that certain advantages accrue to groups of people in certain situations, but in terms of making people feel personally responsible for the mere fact that they exist and that they benefit from them, I think that's off base. Where I maybe give a little ground on this point is that, even if we're not responsible for the existence of privilege, we are responsible for doing what we can level the playing field going forward. Do you further think little white children should be taught that not only are they born into a system that automatically benefits them, but that same system does them intense harm both personally and collectively?
February 16, 20223 yr 14 minutes ago, hukdonfoniks said: Do you further think little white children should be taught that not only are they born into a system that automatically benefits them, but that same system does them intense harm both personally and collectively? I think these lessons should be reserved for teenagers and high schoolers, and I think that the best way to get people engaged and motivated about something is to show them that they have a personal stake in it. Maybe the threat isn't directly existential to them, but yes, even white people are negatively impacted by white privilege. We all live in a nation together that is negatively impacted by inequality, and all of us feel disruptions from that in some way, whether it be experiencing prejudice directly or merely living in a time and place of great instability brought on frustrations with it, being the object of animosities arising from minority groups feeling that their grievances are being ignored or unheard, or by missing out on the opportunity for the personal growth that can come from gaining knowledge and an expanded worldview that gives someone a better perspective on their lives.
February 16, 20223 yr We should teach the historical truth, warts and all. The USA, like everything under the sun, is imperfect. The only way to fix things is to first admit they are broken.
February 16, 20223 yr 51 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Again, there should be absolutely nothing controversial about these learning goals, unless you're a triggered white boy from backcountry VA. Please go line-by-line and tell me which points trigger you the most and why they so deeply offend you. Look, we don't have to pretend like we both don't understand that the oppression olympic stuff is just retarded liberal propaganda. You'd probably feel the same way as me if schools were teaching right wing values like promoting lower taxes or the nuclear family.
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