July 6, 20214 yr Why Did So Many Christians Support Slavery? https://www.christianitytoday.com/history/issues/issue-33/why-christians-supported-slavery.html Many southern Christians felt that slavery, in one Baptist minister’s words, "stands as an institution of God.” Here are some common arguments made by Christians at the time: Charitable and Evangelistic Reasons • Slavery removes people from a culture that "worshipped the devil, practiced witchcraft, and sorcery” and other evils. • Slavery brings heathens to a Christian land where they can hear the gospel. Christian masters provide religious instruction for their slaves. • Under slavery, people are treated with kindness, as many northern visitors can attest. • It is in slaveholders’ own interest to treat their slaves well. • Slaves are treated more benevolently than are workers in oppressive northern factories. Social Reasons • Just as women are called to play a subordinate role (Eph. 5:22; 1 Tim. 2:11–15), so slaves are stationed by God in their place. • Slavery is God’s means of protecting and providing for an inferior race (suffering the "curse of Ham” in Gen. 9:25 or even the punishment of Cain in Gen. 4:12). • Abolition would lead to slave uprisings, bloodshed, and anarchy. Consider the mob’s "rule of terror” during the French Revolution. Political Reasons • Christians are to obey civil authorities, and those authorities permit and protect slavery. • The church should concentrate on spiritual matters, not political ones. • Those who support abolition are, in James H. Thornwell’s words, "atheists, socialists, communists [and] red republicans.”
July 6, 20214 yr 41 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: I think part of the problem is that people who actually know what CRT is and work in education know it’s not being taught. Because it’s grad level material. The problem is both sides are talking past one another and being intellectually dishonest, which is par for the course in today's political climate. Is Critical Race Theory, as defined, being taught in schools? No. It's a complex theory taught in colleges that is well beyond elementary school students. Are schools picking up on some aspects of CRT and introducing lessons in schools designed to make students aware of their differences? To make white students feel some shame and guilt? Yes. Of course they are, and there are examples everywhere. Unqualified teachers and administrators are taking something from higher education and trying to create lessons based on it despite being unqualified to do so.
July 6, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, jsdarkstar said: Says the racist. You are a caricature of a SJW imbecile.
July 6, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Toastrel said: Still not clicking Kz! links. But thanks for playing. It’s a screen shot of the teacher’s union. You don’t need to click anything.
July 6, 20214 yr 8 minutes ago, vikas83 said: The problem is both sides are talking past one another and being intellectually dishonest, which is par for the course in today's political climate. Is Critical Race Theory, as defined, being taught in schools? No. It's a complex theory taught in colleges that is well beyond elementary school students. Are schools picking up on some aspects of CRT and introducing lessons in schools designed to make students aware of their differences? To make white students feel some shame and guilt? Yes. Of course they are, and there are examples everywhere. Unqualified teachers and administrators are taking something from higher education and trying to create lessons based on it despite being unqualified to do so. Oh look, another chicken dinner.
July 6, 20214 yr 9 minutes ago, vikas83 said: The problem is both sides are talking past one another and being intellectually dishonest, which is par for the course in today's political climate. Is Critical Race Theory, as defined, being taught in schools? No. It's a complex theory taught in colleges that is well beyond elementary school students. Are schools picking up on some aspects of CRT and introducing lessons in schools designed to make students aware of their differences? To make white students feel some shame and guilt? Yes. Of course they are, and there are examples everywhere. Unqualified teachers and administrators are taking something from higher education and trying to create lessons based on it despite being unqualified to do so. I agree Vikas. I think learning about privilege is fine. My middle schooler had a lesson about it towards the end of the school year. Shaming white students is an awful idea though.
July 6, 20214 yr 51 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: I think part of the problem is that people who actually know what CRT is and work in education know it’s not being taught. Because it’s grad level material. It’s moron level material that morons pretend is intellectual.
July 6, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, TEW said: It’s moron level material that morons pretend is intellectual. Yet it is you in here, quoting Kz!
July 6, 20214 yr 13 minutes ago, vikas83 said: The problem is both sides are talking past one another and being intellectually dishonest, which is par for the course in today's political climate. Is Critical Race Theory, as defined, being taught in schools? No. It's a complex theory taught in colleges that is well beyond elementary school students. Are schools picking up on some aspects of CRT and introducing lessons in schools designed to make students aware of their differences? To make white students feel some shame and guilt? Yes. Of course they are, and there are examples everywhere. Unqualified teachers and administrators are taking something from higher education and trying to create lessons based on it despite being unqualified to do so. How are people being intellectually dishonest when they say it’s being taught in schools? It is, demonstrably so. You can quibble that it’s being dumbed down for first graders to understand, but it’s absolutely being taught and people who say it’s being taught are saying so in good faith. Meanwhile people denying that is being taught are not arguing in good faith. 1 minute ago, Toastrel said: Yet it is you in here, quoting Kz! Quoting the teacher’s union.
July 6, 20214 yr 4 minutes ago, TEW said: How are people being intellectually dishonest when they say it’s being taught in schools? It is, demonstrably so. You can quibble that it’s being dumbed down for first graders to understand, but it’s absolutely being taught and people who say it’s being taught are saying so in good faith. Meanwhile people denying that is being taught are not arguing in good faith. You have no idea what’s being taught in schools because 1) you don’t have children and 2) you don’t work in education Not to mention that you’re clueless on a variety of other topics.
July 6, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, Dave Moss said: You have no idea what’s being taught in schools because 1) you don’t have children and 2) you don’t work in education Not to mention that you’re clueless on a variety of other topics. The tweets I have been posting show source documents of things directly being taught in schools across the country. So, yes, he does know, and no, it's not hard to find out. Other than that, great post.
July 6, 20214 yr 6 minutes ago, Kz! said: The tweets I have been posting show source documents of things directly being taught in schools across the country. So, yes, he does know, and no, it's not hard to find out. Other than that, great post. There’s teachers who aren’t good at their job just like every other profession. I wouldn’t be surprised if most of the time those stories are misconstrued by conservative outlets though. Given that that’s their MO (i.e. the "stolen” 2020 election).
July 6, 20214 yr Trumplicans really want the White Christian Slave Owners version of slavery to taught in School. Here's what Trumplicans want every school child to know. Biblical Reasons • Abraham, the "father of faith,” and all the patriarchs held slaves without God’s disapproval (Gen. 21:9–10). • Canaan, Ham’s son, was made a slave to his brothers (Gen. 9:24–27). • The Ten Commandments mention slavery twice, showing God’s implicit acceptance of it (Ex. 20:10, 17). • Slavery was widespread throughout the Roman world, and yet Jesus never spoke against it. • The apostle Paul specifically commanded slaves to obey their masters (Eph. 6:5–8). • Paul returned a runaway slave, Philemon, to his master (Philem. 12). Charitable and Evangelistic Reasons • Slavery removes people from a culture that "worshipped the devil, practiced witchcraft, and sorcery” and other evils. • Slavery brings heathens to a Christian land where they can hear the gospel. Christian masters provide religious instruction for their slaves. • Under slavery, people are treated with kindness, as many northern visitors can attest. • It is in slaveholders’ own interest to treat their slaves well. • Slaves are treated more benevolently than are workers in oppressive northern factories. Social Reasons • Just as women are called to play a subordinate role (Eph. 5:22; 1 Tim. 2:11–15), so slaves are stationed by God in their place. • Slavery is God’s means of protecting and providing for an inferior race (suffering the "curse of Ham” in Gen. 9:25 or even the punishment of Cain in Gen. 4:12). • Abolition would lead to slave uprisings, bloodshed, and anarchy. Consider the mob’s "rule of terror” during the French Revolution. Political Reasons • Christians are to obey civil authorities, and those authorities permit and protect slavery. • The church should concentrate on spiritual matters, not political ones. • Those who support abolition are, in James H. Thornwell’s words, "atheists, socialists, communists [and] red republicans.”
July 6, 20214 yr the biggest faux pas I'm always reading about in K-5 education is a teacher trying to re-enact the Slave South and making black students "the slaves." Yeah... Some teachers aren't that smart.
July 6, 20214 yr 5 hours ago, TEW said: How are people being intellectually dishonest when they say it’s being taught in schools? It is, demonstrably so. You can quibble that it’s being dumbed down for first graders to understand, but it’s absolutely being taught and people who say it’s being taught are saying so in good faith. Meanwhile people denying that is being taught are not arguing in good faith. Quoting the teacher’s union. So, still not being taught.
July 6, 20214 yr 27 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: You have no idea what’s being taught in schools because 1) you don’t have children and 2) you don’t work in education Not to mention that you’re clueless on a variety of other topics. What a dumb comment. We have actual documents, video footage, etc. You don’t need a kid in school or to work in education to be aware of any of this.
July 6, 20214 yr 5 minutes ago, TEW said: What a dumb comment. We have actual documents, video footage, etc. You don’t need a kid in school or to work in education to be aware of any of this. Who is we? Give me a break, pal. I get ranting about teachers is kind of your shtick here, but you're a misinformed dolt. Not someone anyone here should take seriously.
July 6, 20214 yr 24 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: There’s teachers who aren’t good at their job just like every other profession. I wouldn’t be surprised if most of the time those stories are misconstrued by conservative outlets though. Given that that’s their MO (i.e. the "stolen” 2020 election). Uh, yeah, that's why that Rufo guy I keep posting is putting up the source documents so people can see exactly what's being taught, you know with like actual slides that are being shown to school children and CRT children's books and so on. So, I guess you should start being surprised now?
July 6, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, Kz! said: Uh, yeah, that's why that Rufo guy I keep posting is putting up the source documents so people can see exactly what's being taught, you know with like actual slides that are being shown to school children and CRT children's books and so on. So, I guess you should start being surprised now? CRT children’s books??? dude, critical race theory is a theory. It’s debated in academia just like other theories. There’s no children's books for that
July 6, 20214 yr 5 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: CRT children’s books??? dude, critical race theory is a theory. It’s debated in academia just like other theories. There’s no children's books for that Ah, you're doing the whole "that's not CRT" deflection schtick. Got it. Carry on.
July 6, 20214 yr 14 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: Who is we? Give me a break, pal. I get ranting about teachers is kind of your shtick here, but you're a misinformed dolt. Not someone anyone here should take seriously. We. The Fing internet at large, moron.
July 6, 20214 yr 5 minutes ago, Kz! said: Ah, you're doing the whole "that's not CRT" deflection schtick. Got it. Carry on. CRT is just a conservative bogeyman. Plain and simple.
July 6, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, Dave Moss said: CRT is just a conservative bogeyman. Plain and simple. And besides, everyone knows that real CRT has never been tried.
July 6, 20214 yr 4 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: CRT children’s books??? dude, critical race theory is a theory. It’s debated in academia just like other theories. There’s no children's books for that Here's some Trumplican books for children on how to be a Fascist. They are all available for sale on Amazon.
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