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On 11/14/2020 at 8:01 AM, Toty said:

I used to love that show...

Mario van Peebles' Party Machine?

 

People who call humans a virus are often very forgiving of beavers who change the environment for themselves, or birds who build nests higgeldy-piggledy, etc.

Animal changing nature good, humans bad.

4 hours ago, Toastrel said:

People who call humans a virus are often very forgiving of beavers who change the environment for themselves, or birds who build nests higgeldy-piggledy, etc.

Animal changing nature good, humans bad.

Totally.   Birds building nests from twigs and humans cutting down entire forests are totally same same.  

29 minutes ago, SNOORDA said:

Totally.   Birds building nests from twigs and humans cutting down entire forests are totally same same.  

I'll take things I didn't say for $200, Bob.

23 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

I'll take things I didn't say for $200, Bob.

What exactly was it you were saying? wait... forget i asked.  

I'm gonna get an aneurysm if I read another one of his insane posts.

1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I'm gonna get an aneurysm if I read another one of his insane posts.

5G is the cause of the pandemic.  Sounds legit

13 hours ago, EagleVA said:

The 5G 60 hHz wavelength is slightly below the microwave-pulse weapon, it cause respiratory issues by inhibiting oxygen uptake.......can you say Corona Virus?

The more important issue is how it is used for mind control, like the HAARP device in Alaska.

2 minutes ago, Toty said:

Did anyone see baby Yoda hitching a ride on SpaceX? 

Took me a minute to figure out what it was.

They even brought him onto the station. 😄

They're trying to tell you SpaceX and the SpaceStation is a joke but you guys aren't trying to hear that.

What happens in a thread like this is why we can't have nice things.

8 minutes ago, Toty said:

oh god not you too

You have to understand, there is a demonic cabal at the top of the satanic pyramid. This is why so many children go "missing.” Their souls are being harvested by the Illuminati to sacrifice to Moloch.

30 minutes ago, Toty said:

😄

whew! thought we had another imbecile for a second 

We do. He believes in aliens. No sarcasm.

4 minutes ago, Toty said:

Well, we can talk about aliens objectively and constructively at least.

The likelihood that life outside the Earth, whether in the universe or our own galaxy, seems very high.

The real question is threefold the way I see it:

1) How common is intelligent life (meaning what is the distribution of beings capable of leaving their planet)?

2) Is interstellar travel practical and can the light barrier ever be overcome?

3) Have we been "visited" (and if so, how do I sign up to be probed)?

my thoughts...

1) No way to know this yet. Thinking strictly philosophically, I think if life can emerge here it can do so elsewhere as well in a vast universe with uniform rules. It stands to reason that evolution would proceed wherever the conditions would allow. If 1 out of every million stars have produced an intelligent species, then there are potentially millions just in the observable universe alone. Why aren't we getting TV broadcasts of little green versions of the Honeymooners ("To the third moon, Gorlak!")? Maybe they're too far away, maybe they don't communicate that way, maybe we happen to be the most advanced in our neck of the woods. It's all speculation.

2) The are some serious barriers to the kind of travel we see in sci-fi. Besides the light barrier there are energy issues. It may be the case that we are forever limited to generation ships.

3) The answer is no until someone demonstrates otherwise. I remember Dennis Miller talking about the Roswell crash and he said something like "These aliens flew millions of miles dodging asteroids and comets on the way - but those New Mexico power lines are  a real ****"

 

He meant #3. He posted video of the NAVY FLIR cam capturing a UFO off the coast in san diego and said it was proof of either warp drive technology or aliens. 

3 minutes ago, Toty said:

Proof is a strong word.

Let's see it.

It was on a thread on the old boards. I'm sure you can find the video elsewhere online. Suffice it to say the guy is an idiot though.

1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said:

We do. He believes in aliens. No sarcasm.

I certainly believe we arent the only intelligent life in the universe. But I believe we are too far from the nearest intelligent life form to make contact

13 minutes ago, Toty said:

A good article on the disappointing prospect of interstellar travel 😔

https://www.space.com/is-interstellar-travel-possible.html

I have a hard time agreeing with articles like these. We know so little, the reality is "we have no idea how it would work"

10 minutes ago, SNOORDA said:

I certainly believe we arent the only intelligent life in the universe. But I believe we are too far from the nearest intelligent life form to make contact

Of course, in this infinitely vast universe, the chances of intelligent life elsewhere is a virtual certainty. The chances they almost made contact with us just off the coast of San Diego is are basically zero. Intelligent people understand this. People who fail to understand the basic laws of physics entertain delusions. 

1 minute ago, Toty said:

I understand what you mean. We couldn't have anticipated many of the advances and discoveries made in the past century which would have been previously deemed impossible. 

I feel the same way about alien life. We may not even be able to know it is there. The chances of it being bipedal with eyes and a mouth seems pretty slim to me. There could be insubstantial (to our eyes) magnetovores. Or live so slowly (or quickly) we can't detect them as life

20 hours ago, SNOORDA said:

5G is the cause of the pandemic.  Sounds legit

Let's get something straight, the narrative outside of mainstream media has it that 5G doesn't cause COVID-19 because there is no COVID-19 (not unless you want to consider the common cold COVID,) but rather 5G produces the respiration issues attributed to COVID-19. 

On 11/18/2020 at 5:32 AM, Toastrel said:

What happens in a thread like this is why we can't have nice things.

Depends on what you conceder nice i suppose

The numbers game favours that we aren't along in the Universe.  Billions of stars just in our own galaxy and the numbers of solar/star systems and the odds of more "Goldie Locks" planets there has to be at least a few out there.  The question is how much like us are they, if at all, and how further or less advanced are they than us?  Even just for intergalactic travel between solar/star systems you'd have to have such an advanced race of beings (we're probably talking hundreds of thousands of years at least) and they'd be way beyond our comprehension and operate on levels we haven't even considered yet.  We look up at the stars and are seeing them as they were several, dozens, hundreds and thousands of light years ago.  The combination of space travel between systems and the odds of superior beings that figured out space travel being close enough to us is definitely a long shot. 

I’ve always thought that it’s more probable than not that life in some form or another exists somewhere out there, even if it’s unintelligent micro-organism type of life, but I don’t believe we’ll ever confirm this in our lifetimes. 

34 minutes ago, Toty said:

If (big if) there's anything else in our solar system, we could feasibly find it within the century. It would have to be on Mars, though, or perhaps one of Jupiter's moons.

We still know very little about what conditions are necessary. Current hypotheses about early earth life center around the "soup" of amino acid chains that could have formed the earliest DNA, but to @Toastrel's point (how the hell do I "@" somebody on here? I can't get it to work) there could be life on a completely different paradigm than the carbon/oxygen one that we're familiar with.

My gut tells me that we'll eventually find remnants of early life having started and failed in maybe a few other local planets/moons. But my gut also told me that Carson Wentz would be a top 30 QB in the NFL, so...

Looks like you have a space between the @ and the persons name. Eliminate the space and just start typing a few letters. Their name should appear eventually. 

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