September 11, 20214 yr 36 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: There's a documentary that basically tracks the whole cay through phone calls. I can't remember what it's called, but I'd really like to find it. If anyone knows, let me know. Check out 911 day in America on national geographic it basically puts you in it. Phone calls everything
September 11, 20214 yr 3 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said: I saw it for the first time in April of this year. It's like a darkness over comes you as you walk through and to know people are still buried in that foundation is horrific. It was weird to see so many people fail to grasp the gravity of monument. There were tourists smiling for group pictures in front of the fountains and mugging for selfies. I'm sure they wouldn't do that at cemeteries, but they somehow don't view it as being the same.
September 11, 20214 yr I was a freshman in college walking back from music listening class. Overheard somebody say a plane crashed into one of the towers. Got back to my dorm room and watched the second plane hit. Surreal experience. I certainly never forget it.
September 11, 20214 yr Today we took the field today in remembrance for those who lost their lives, their families and the first responders whose lives are forever changed.
September 11, 20214 yr 20 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: It was weird to see so many people fail to grasp the gravity of monument. There were tourists smiling for group pictures in front of the fountains and mugging for selfies. I'm sure they wouldn't do that at cemeteries, but they somehow don't view it as being the same. Well unfortunately there is to many people that treat it as a touristy type of thing. I didn'tt take any pictures even in the places we were allowed too. Just seemed to be the respectful thing to do regardless of the reason you are there especially if you weren't the one it had major impact on. Obviously it affected the whole country but, for those that lost loved ones and those who lived there I feel as though it should stay sacred and should only be seen in person and not on a camera on someone's Facebook feed or Instagram crap. I'm not saying it's the right way to feel about it but, for me that's how I felt. I went on a day when their wasn't many people at all so the people that were there were holding each other and crying. Definitely made me sad and upset and being that I wasn't directly involved I didn't think I would feel that way. Such a major impact it had on all of us wether we realize it or not
September 11, 20214 yr 21 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: It was weird to see so many people fail to grasp the gravity of monument. There were tourists smiling for group pictures in front of the fountains and mugging for selfies. I'm sure they wouldn't do that at cemeteries, but they somehow don't view it as being the same. Last time I went to Pearl Harbor, it was much of the same. Groups of Japanese tourists joking and laughing. Had to calm my buddy down from saying something.
September 11, 20214 yr This is a final call for the following. FDNY A Joseph Agnello, Firefighter, Ladder 118 Brian Ahearn, Lieutenant, Engine 230 Eric Allen, Firefighter, Squad 18 Richard Allen, Firefighter, Ladder 15 James Amato, Captain*, Squad 1 Calixto Anaya, Jr., Firefighter, Engine 4 Joseph Angelini, Sr., Firefighter, Rescue 1 Joseph Angelini, Jr., Firefighter, Ladder 4 Faustino Apostol, Jr., Firefighter, Batallion 2 David Arce, Firefighter, Engine 33 Louis Arena, Firefighter, Ladder 5 Carl Asaro, Firefighter, Batallion 9 Gregg Atlas, Lieutenant, Engine 10 Gerald Atwood, Firefighter, Ladder 21 B Gerard Baptiste, Firefighter, Ladder 9 Gerald Barbara, Assistant Chief, Citywide Tour Commander Matthew Barnes, Firefighter, Ladder 25 Arthur Barry, Firefighter, Ladder 15 Steven Bates, Lieutenant, Engine 235 Carl Bedigian, Lieutenant, Engine 214 Stephen Belson, Firefighter, Ladder 24 John Bergin, Firefighter, Rescue 5 Paul Beyer, Firefighter, Engine 6 Peter Bielfield, Firefighter, Ladder 42 Brian Bilcher, Firefighter, Squad 1 Carl Bini, Firefighter, Rescue 5 Christopher Blackwell, Firefighter, Rescue 3 Michael Bocchino, Firefighter, Batallion 48 Frank Bonomo, Firefighter, Engine 230 Gary Box, Firefighter, Squad 1 Michael Boyle, Firefighter, Engine 33 Kevin Bracken, Firefighter, Engine 40 Michael Brennan, Firefighter, Ladder 4 Peter Brennan, Firefighter, Rescue 4 Daniel Brethel, Captain, Ladder 24 Patrick Brown, Captain, Ladder 3 Andrew Brunn, Firefighter, Ladder 5 Vincent Brunton, Captain, Ladder 105 Ronald Bucca, Fire Marshal Greg Buck, Firefighter, Engine 201 William Burke, Jr., Captain, Engine 21 Donald Burns, Assistant Chief, Citywide Tour Commander John Burnside, Firefighter, Ladder 20 Thomas Butler, Firefighter, Squad 1 Patrick Byrne, Firefighter, Ladder 101 C George Cain, Firefighter, Ladder 7 Salavatore Calabro, Firefighter, Ladder 101 Frank Callahan, Captain, Ladder 35 Michael Cammarata, Firefighter, Ladder 11 Brian Cannizzaro, Firefighter, Ladder 101 Dennis Carey, Firefighter, Haz-Mat Company 1 Michael Carlo, Firefighter, Engine 230 Michael Carroll, Firefighter, Ladder 3 Peter Carroll, Firefighter, Squad 1 Thomas Casoria, Firefighter, Engine 22 Michael Cawley, Firefighter, Ladder 136 Vernon Cherry, Firefighter, Ladder 118 Nicholas Chiofalo, Firefighter, Engine 235 John Chipura, Firefighter, Engine 219 Michael Clarke, Firefighter, Ladder 2 Steven Coakley, Firefighter, Engine 217 Tarel Coleman, Firefighter, Squad 252 John Collins, Firefighter, Ladder 25 Robert Cordice, Firefighter, Squad 1 Ruben Correa, Firefighter, Engine 74 James J. Corrigan, Captain, Retired - Engine 320 James Coyle, Firefighter, Ladder 3 Robert Crawford, Firefighter, Safety Battalion 1 John Crisci, Lieutenant, Haz-Mat Company 1 Dennis Cross, Deputy Chief , Batallion 57 Thomas Cullen III, Firefighter, Squad 41 Robert Curatolo, Firefighter, Ladder 16 D Edward D'Atri, Lieutenant, Squad 1 Michael D'Auria, Firefighter, Engine 40 Scott Davidson, Firefighter, Ladder 118 Edward Day, Firefighter, Ladder 11 Thomas DeAngelis (1), Batallion Chief, Batallion 8 Manuel Delvalle, Firefighter, Engine 5 Martin Demeo, Firefighter, Haz-Mat Co. 1 David Derubbio, Firefighter, Engine 226 Andrew Desperito, Lieutenant, Engine 1 Dennis Devlin, Batallion Chief, Batallion 9 Gerard Dewan, Firefighter, Ladder 3 George Dipasquale, Firefighter, Ladder 2 Kevin Donnelly, Lieutenant, Engine 1 Kevin Dowdell, Lieutenant, Rescue 4 Raymond Downey, Deputy Chief, Special Operations Command Gerard Duffy, Firefighter, Ladder 21 E Martin Egan, Jr., Captain, Division 15 Michael Elferis, Firefighter, Engine 22 Francis Esposito, Firefighter, Engine 235 Michael Esposito, Lieutenant*, Squad 1 Robert Evans, Firefighter, Engine 33 F John Fanning, Battalion Chief, Haz-Mat Operations Thomas Farino, Captain, Engine 26 Terrence Farrell, Firefighter, Rescue 4 Joseph Farrelly, Captain*, Division 1 William Feehan, Deputy Commissioner Lee Fehling, Firefighter, Engine 235 Alan Feinberg, Firefighter, Battalion 9 Michael Fiore, Firefighter, Rescue 5 John Fischer, Captain - Formerly Lieutenant, Ladder 20 Andre Fletcher, Fire Marshal (was Firefighter), Rescue 5 John Florio, Firefighter, Engine 214 Michael Fodor, Lieutenant, Squad 1 Thomas Foley, Firefighter, Rescue 3 David Fontana, Firefighter*, Squad 1 Robert Foti, Firefighter, Ladder 7 Andrew Fredericks, Firefighter*, Squad 18 Peter Freund, Lieutenant, Engine 55 G Thomas Gambino, Jr., Firefighter, Rescue 3 Peter C. Ganci, Jr., Chief Charles Garbarini, Lieutenant, Battalion 9 Thomas Gardner, Firefighter, Haz-Mat Co. 1 Matthew Garvey, Firefighter, Squad 1 Bruce Gary, Firefighter, Engine 40 Gary Geidel, Firefighter, Rescue 1 Edward Geraghty, Battalion Chief, Battalion 9 Denis Germain, Firefighter, Ladder 2 Vincent Giammona, Lieutenant*, Ladder 5 James Giberson, Firefighter, Ladder 35 Ronnie Gies, Firefighter*, Squad 288 Paul Gill, Firefighter, Engine 54 John Ginley, Lieutenant, Engine 40 Jeffrey Giordano, Firefighter, Ladder 3 John Giordano (1), Firefighter, Engine 37 Keith Glascoe, Firefighter, Ladder 21 James Gray, Firefighter, Ladder 20 Joseph Grzelak, Battalion Chief, Battalion 48 Jose Guadalupe, Firefighter, Engine 54 Geoffrey Guja, Lieutenant, Battalion 43 Joseph Gullickson, Lieutenant, Ladder 101 H David Halderman, Firefighter*, Squad 18 Vincent Halloran, Lieutenant, Ladder 8 Robert Hamilton, Firefighter, Squad 41 Sean Hanley, Firefighter, Ladder 20 Thomas Hannafin, Firefighter*, Ladder 5 Dana Hannon, Firefighter, Engine 26 Daniel Harlin, Firefighter, Ladder 2 Harvey Harrell, Lieutenant, Rescue 5 Stephen Harrell, Lieutenant, Battalion 7 Timothy Haskell, Firefighter, Squad 18 Thomas J. Haskell, Jr., Battalion Chief, Division 15 Terence Hatton, Captain*, Rescue 1 Michael Haub, Firefighter, Ladder 4 Philip T. Hayes, Firefighter, Retired - Engine 217 Michael Healey, Lieutenant, Squad 41 John Heffernan, Firefighter, Ladder 11 Ronnie Henderson, Firefighter, Engine 279 Joseph Henry, Firefighter, Ladder 21 William Henry, Firefighter, Rescue 1 Thomas Hetzel, Firefighter, Ladder 13 Brian Hickey, Captain*, Rescue 4 Timothy Higgins, Lieutenant, Special Operations Jonathon Hohmann, Firefighter, Haz-Mat Co. 1 Thomas Holohan, Firefighter, Engine 6 Joseph Hunter, Firefighter, Squad 288 Walter Hynes, Captain, Ladder 13 I Jonathan Ielpi, Firefighter, Squad 288 Frederick Ill, Jr., Captain, Ladder 2 J William Johnston, Firefighter, Engine 6 Andrew Jordan, Firefighter, Ladder 132 Karl Joseph, Firefighter, Engine 207 Anthony Jovic, Lieutenant, Battalion 47 Angel Juarbe, Jr., Firefighter, Ladder 12 Mychal Judge, Chaplain K Vincent Kane, Firefighter*, Engine 22 Charles Kasper *, Battalion Chief, SOC Battalion Paul Keating, Firefighter, Ladder 5 Richard Kelly, Jr., Firefighter, Ladder 11 Thomas Kelly, Firefighter, Ladder 15 Thomas Kelly, Firefighter*, Ladder 105 Thomas Kennedy, Firefighter, Ladder 101 Ronald Kerwin, Lieutenant, Squad 288 Michael Kiefer, Firefighter, Ladder 132 Robert King, Jr., Firefighter, Engine 33 Scott Kopytko, Firefighter, Ladder 15 William Krukowski, Firefighter, Ladder 21 Kenneth Kumpel, Firefighter*, Ladder 25 Thomas Kuveikis, Firefighter, Squad 252 L David LaForge, Firefighter, Ladder 20 William Lake, Firefighter, Rescue 2 Robert Lane, Firefighter, Engine 55 Peter Langone, Firefighter, Squad 252 Scott Larsen, Firefighter, Ladder 15 Joseph Leavey, Lieutenant, Ladder 15 Neil Leavy, Firefighter, Engine 217 Daniel Libretti, Firefighter, Rescue 2 Carlos Lillo, Paramedic, Battalion 49 Robert Linnane, Firefighter, Ladder 20 Michael Lynch, Firefighter, Engine 40 Michael Lynch, Firefighter*, Ladder 4 Michael Lyons, Firefighter, Squad 41 Patrick Lyons, Firefighter*, Squad 252 M Joseph Maffeo, Firefighter, Ladder 101 William Mahoney, Firefighter, Rescue 4 Joseph Maloney, Firefighter, Ladder 3 Joseph Marchbanks, Jr.,* Battalion Chief, Battalion 57 Charles Margiotta, Lieutenant, Battalion 22 Kenneth Marino, Firefighter, Rescue 1 John Marshall, Firefighter, Ladder 27 Peter C. Martin, Lieutenant, Rescue 2 Paul Martini, Lieutenant, Engine 201 Joseph Mascali, Firefighter, Rescue 5/Tactical Support 2 Keithroy Maynard, Firefighter, Engine 33 Brian McAleese, Firefighter, Engine 226 John McAvoy, Firefighter, Ladder 3 Thomas McCann, Firefighter, Battalion 8 William McGinn, Lieutenant*, Squad 18 William McGovern, Battalion Chief, Battalion 2 Dennis McHugh, Firefighter, Ladder 13 Robert McMahon, Firefighter, Ladder 20 Robert McPadden, Firefighter, Engine 23 Terence McShane, Firefighter, Ladder 101 Timothy McSweeney, Firefighter, Ladder 3 Martin McWilliams, Firefighter, Engine 22 Raymond Meisenheimer, Firefighter, Rescue 3 Charles Mendez, Firefighter, Ladder 7 Steve Mercado, Firefighter, Engine 40 Douglas Miller, Firefighter, Rescue 5 Henry Miller, Jr., Firefighter, Ladder 105 Robert Minara, Firefighter, Ladder 25 Thomas Mingione, Firefighter, Ladder 132 Paul Mitchell, Lieutenant, Battalion 1 Louis Modafferi, Battalion Chief (was Captain), Rescue 5 Dennis Mojica, 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Veling, Firefighter, Engine 235 John Vigiano II, Firefighter, Ladder 132 Sergio Villanueva, Firefighter, Ladder 132 Lawrence Virgilio, Firefighter, Squad 18 W Robert Wallace, Lieutenant, Engine 205 Jeffrey Walz, Firefighter*, Ladder 9 Michael Warchola, Lieutenant, Ladder 5 Patrick Waters (2), Captain, Special Operations Kenneth Watson, Firefighter, Engine 214 Michael Weinberg, Firefighter, Engine 1 David Weiss, Firefighter, Rescue 1 Timothy Welty, Firefighter, Squad 288 Eugene Whelan, Firefighter, Engine 230 Edward White, Firefighter, Engine 230 Mark Whitford, Firefighter, Engine 23 Glenn Wilkinson, Lieutenant, Engine 238 John Williamson, Battalion Chief, Battalion 6 David Wooley, Captain, Ladder 4 William X. Wren, Firefighter, Retired - Ladder 166 Y Raymond York, Firefighter, Engine 285 Port Athurity Police Supt. Ferdinand V. Morrone, 63 Chief James A. Romito, 51 Lt. Robert D. Cirri Insp. Anthony P. Infante, Jr., 47 Capt. Kathy Nancy Mazza, 46 Sgt. Robert M. Kaulfers, 49 Donald James McIntyre, 38 Walter Arthur McNeil, 53 Joseph Michael Navas, 44 James Nelson, 40 Alfonse J. Niedermeyer, 40 James Wendell Parham, 32 Dominick A. Pezzulo, 36 Antonio J. Rodrigues, 35 Richard Rodriguez, 31 Bruce Albert Reynolds, 41 Christopher C. Amoroso, 29 Maurice V. Barry, 48 Clinton Davis, Sr., 38 Donald A. Foreman, 53 Gregg J. Froehner, 46 Uhuru Gonga Houston, 32 George G. Howard, 44 Thomas E. Gorman Stephen Huczko, Jr., 44 Paul William Jurgens, 47 Liam Callahan, 44 Paul Laszczynski, 49 David Prudencio Lemagne, 27 John Joseph Lennon, Jr., 44 John Dennis Levi, 50 James Francis Lynch, 47 John P. Skala, 31 Walwyn W. Stuart, Jr., 28 Kenneth F. Tietjen, 31 Nathaniel Webb Michael T. Wholey Sirius, K-9 New York Police Department Sgt. Timothy A. Roy, Sr., 36 Sgt. John Gerard Coughlin, 43 Sgt. Rodney C. Gillis, 33 Sgt. Michael S. Curtin, 45 Det. Joseph V. Vigiano, 34 Det. Claude Daniel Richards, 46 Moira Ann Smith, 38 Ramon Suarez, 45 Paul Talty, 40 Santos Valentin, Jr., 39 Walter E. Weaver, 30 Ronald Philip Kloepfer, 39 Thomas M. Langone, 39 James Patrick Leahy, 38 Brian Grady McDonnell, 38 John William Perry, 38 – an actor on shows like NYPD Blue and One Life to Live who was filing his police force retirement papers on that morning[13] Glen Kerrin Pettit, 30 John D'Allara, 47 Vincent Danz, 38 Jerome M. P. Dominguez, 37 Stephen P. Driscoll, 38 Mark Joseph Ellis, 26 Robert Fazio, Jr., 41 Private EMS Workers Keith Fairben, 24, – a paramedic who worked for the New York Presbyterian Hospital Richard Pearlman, 18, – an EMT who worked for the Forest Hills Volunteer Ambulance Mario Santoro, 28 – a paramedic who worked for the New York Presbyterian Medical Center Yamel Merino, 24 – a single mother of an eight year old son who worked as an EMT for Metrocare/Montefiore Medical Center for three years Mohammad Salman Hamdani, 23 – a Muslim-American man who worked as a part-time FDNY Certified EMT and also a member of the New York City Police Department Cadet Corps for three years Marc Sullins, 30 – an EMT who worked with Cabrini Medical Center Mark Schwartz, 50 – an EMT who worked for Hunter Ambulance Jeff Simpson, 38 – an EMT who worked for the Dumfries-Triangle Rescue Squad, and also an employee for Oracle Corporation There is no answer from any of those listed. These men and women gave every thing on September 11, 2001. They have responded to their final alarm. They have responded home to be with the lord. But thier job is not done, their job is to now to watch over your fellow emergency workers. They may be gone but they are never forgotten.
September 11, 20214 yr 32 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: It was weird to see so many people fail to grasp the gravity of monument. Yeah, we thought the same thing when we went. It was kind of appalling.
September 12, 20214 yr 3 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said: Check out 911 day in America on national geographic it basically puts you in it. Phone calls everything Just finished the first 3 episodes. The previous documentary called Final Hours which mostly highlights what was going on on Sept 10th was really good too.
September 12, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Always gives me chills. I know that call without even clicking. Crazy.
September 12, 20214 yr 19 minutes ago, EagleJoe8 said: Just finished the first 3 episodes. The previous documentary called Final Hours which mostly highlights what was going on on Sept 10th was really good too. It's intense for sure. I'll have to watch that one. I need a break from it that what got to me
September 12, 20214 yr On 9/11/2021 at 1:26 PM, we_gotta_believe said: I still can't bring myself to watch them. My wife had one on last night about united 93 and I had to leave the room. I mean I do completely get that. It does choke me up sometimes.
September 14, 20214 yr I think I told this story here before in the past but not sure. I was a young Airman stationed at Langley AFB at the time. Lightning hit one of the Comsec buildings and fried their Executone telephone key system. I was tasked with trying to get it back online. That thing was a pain in the ass I literally replaced every card in it and still couldn't get anything to work. The building was secure so I had to leave my phone in the truck. My supervisor showed up to my jobsite saying that a plane just hit one of the twin towers and we all needed to get back to the shop ASAP for accountability recall and why wasn't I answering my phone and blah blah. He had me leave my truck there onsite and I rode back to the shop with him in his vehicle. On the radio they kept playing the weird emergency announcement signal but it was no test. It felt kind of strange b/c at the time I still had no idea really of what was going on. When we arrived at the office as soon as I opened the door I could see the rest of our crew there watching the news on tv then the second plane hit. I think right up until that point we still weren't positive that it wasn't an just a horrible accident but that put any speculation to rest. Our office was right near the flight line so we went outside to see the fighter jets (don't remember if they were F-22's or F-15's) taking off fully loaded to intercept one of the other flights. As we were out there our MSgt came driving up with the window down yelling out "ARE YOU BOYS READY TO GO TO WAR??". My friend and I looked at each other and were just like awwww sheet here we go. Then the phone started ringing off the hook for us to go run a bunch of cable and install new temporary phones all over the command centers on base for temporary combat operations centers. They were like "just tape the cable to the floor don't even worry about putting it in the ceiling". It was pretty hectic. I also remember for a few months after it seemed like everywhere I went off base while in uniform I had multiple people coming up to me (sometimes crying) thanking me for serving. Not long after 9/11 they sent me to Prince Sultan Air Base in Saudi Arabia for a 90 day deployment that turned into 6 months. It was a time in my life that I'll never forget. If anyone is wondering about that stupid phone system in the Comsec building it turned out that it was never grounded properly so the electricity from the lightning strike literally fried every cable pair that was hooked up to that thing. All of the jacks in the building needed to be replaced and since the white/blue pair was toasted in every station cable we just wired all of the new jacks to the white/green pair to get everything back online instead of running all new cable in the building. Bootleg fix but that's what goes on in the military everyday. Too long didn't read I know I know my bad lol
September 14, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, mr_irie1 said: I think I told this story here before in the past but not sure. I was a young Airman stationed at Langley AFB at the time. Lightning hit one of the Comsec buildings and fried their Executone telephone key system. I was tasked with trying to get it back online. That thing was a pain in the ass I literally replaced every card in it and still couldn't get anything to work. The building was secure so I had to leave my phone in the truck. My supervisor showed up to my jobsite saying that a plane just hit one of the twin towers and we all needed to get back to the shop ASAP for accountability recall and why wasn't I answering my phone and blah blah. He had me leave my truck there onsite and I rode back to the shop with him in his vehicle. On the radio they kept playing the weird emergency announcement signal but it was no test. It felt kind of strange b/c at the time I still had no idea really of what was going on. When we arrived at the office as soon as I opened the door I could see the rest of our crew there watching the news on tv then the second plane hit. I think right up until that point we still weren't positive that it wasn't an just a horrible accident but that put any speculation to rest. Our office was right near the flight line so we went outside to see the fighter jets (don't remember if they were F-22's or F-15's) taking off fully loaded to intercept one of the other flights. As we were out there our MSgt came driving up with the window down yelling out "ARE YOU BOYS READY TO GO TO WAR??". My friend and I looked at each other and were just like awwww sheet here we go. Then the phone started ringing off the hook for us to go run a bunch of cable and install new temporary phones all over the command centers on base for temporary combat operations centers. They were like "just tape the cable to the floor don't even worry about putting it in the ceiling". It was pretty hectic. I also remember for a few months after it seemed like everywhere I went off base while in uniform I had multiple people coming up to me (sometimes crying) thanking me for serving. Not long after 9/11 they sent me to Prince Sultan Air Base in Saudi Arabia for a 90 day deployment that turned into 6 months. It was a time in my life that I'll never forget. If anyone is wondering about that stupid phone system in the Comsec building it turned out that it was never grounded properly so the electricity from the lightning strike literally fried every cable pair that was hooked up to that thing. All of the jacks in the building needed to be replaced and since the white/blue pair was toasted in every station cable we just wired all of the new jacks to the white/green pair to get everything back online instead of running all new cable in the building. Bootleg fix but that's what goes on in the military everyday. Too long didn't read I know I know my bad lol Dating myself, but from what little I remember, only one pair in a rj-11 is signaling while the other is power (for old school wired phones that you just plugged in to the jack only). So it sounds like you just transposed the pairs, in which case the only phones that would've worked are the ones that provide their own power? Like a cordless phone with its own wall wart. Also, thank you for your service.
September 14, 20214 yr 16 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Dating myself, but from what little I remember, only one pair in a rj-11 is signaling while the other is power (for old school wired phones that you just plugged in to the jack only). So it sounds like you just transposed the pairs, in which case the only phones that would've worked are the ones that provide their own power? Like a cordless phone with its own wall wart. Also, thank you for your service. Yeah well it's been 20 years since this happened and I might have seen 1 or 2 Executone pbx systems since. 😂 I don't honestly remember if that system was a 1 pair concept or 2. I want to say 2 though, 1 for voice and 1 for display data. The user sets might have needed a power adapter at the station location. A cat5e/6 cable has 4 pairs in it so we just changed the wiring in the jack from the blue and orange pairs to the green and brown pairs (punched the gr/br pairs into the bl/or slots) then moved the jumper wires in the telco room accordingly. Essentially using the 4 existing unused wires in the same old cable to get it working instead of running new cable.
September 14, 20214 yr 4 minutes ago, mr_irie1 said: Yeah well it's been 20 years since this happened and I might have seen 1 or 2 Executone pbx systems since. 😂 I don't honestly remember if that system was a 1 pair concept or 2. I want to say 2 though, 1 for voice and 1 for display data. The user sets might have needed a power adapter at the station location. A cat5e/6 cable has 4 pairs in it so we just changed the wiring in the jack from the blue and orange pairs to the green and brown pairs (punched the gr/br pairs into the bl/or slots) then moved the jumper wires in the telco room accordingly. Essentially using the 4 existing unused wires in the same old cable to get it working instead of running new cable. Ah, you meant rj-45 jacks, I thought you were talking about old school 2-pair rj-11 phone jacks.
September 14, 20214 yr Former President Bush's Remarks, Shanksville, 9/11/2021 Quote Twenty years ago, we all found – in different ways, in different places, but all at the same moment – that our lives would be changed forever. The world was loud with carnage and sirens, and then quiet with missing voices that would never be heard again. These lives remain precious to our country, and infinitely precious to many of you. Today we remember your loss, we share your sorrow, and we honor the men and women you have loved so long and so well. For those too young to recall that clear September day, it is hard to describe the mix of feelings we experienced. There was horror at the scale of destruction, and awe at the bravery and kindness that rose to meet it. There was shock at the audacity of evil, and gratitude for the heroism and decency that opposed it. In the sacrifice of the first responders, in the mutual aid of strangers, in the solidarity of grief and grace, the actions of an enemy revealed the spirit of a people. And we were proud of our wounded nation. In these memories, the passengers and crew of Flight 93 must always have an honored place. Here the intended targets became the instruments of rescue. And many who are now alive owe a vast, unconscious debt to the defiance displayed in the skies above this field. It would be a mistake to idealize the experience of those terrible events. All that many people could initially see was the brute randomness of death. All that many could feel was unearned suffering. All that many could hear was God’s terrible silence. There are many who still struggle with a lonely pain that cuts deep within. In those fateful hours, we learned other lessons as well. We saw that Americans were vulnerable, but not fragile – that they possess a core of strength that survives the worst that life can bring. We learned that bravery is more common than we imagined, emerging with sudden splendor in the face of death. We vividly felt how every hour with our loved ones is a temporary and holy gift. And we found that even the longest days end. Many of us have tried to make spiritual sense of these events. There is no simple explanation for the mix of Providence and human will that sets the direction of our lives. But comfort can come from a different sort of knowledge. After wandering long and lost in the dark, many have found they were actually walking, step by step, toward grace. As a nation, our adjustments have been profound. Many Americans struggled to understand why an enemy would hate us with such zeal. The security measures incorporated into our lives are both sources of comfort and reminders of our vulnerability. And we have seen growing evidence that the dangers to our country can come not only across borders, but from violence that gathers within. There is little cultural overlap between violent extremists abroad and violent extremists at home. But in their disdain for pluralism, in their disregard for human life, in their determination to defile national symbols, they are children of the same foul spirit. And it is our continuing duty to confront them. After 9/11, millions of brave Americans stepped forward and volunteered to serve in the Armed Forces. The military measures taken over the last 20 years to pursue dangers at their source have led to debate. But one thing is certain: We owe an assurance to all who have fought our nation’s most recent battles. Let me speak directly to veterans and people in uniform: The cause you pursued at the call of duty is the noblest America has to offer. You have shielded your fellow citizens from danger. You have defended the beliefs of your country and advanced the rights of the downtrodden. You have been the face of hope and mercy in dark places. You have been a force for good in the world. Nothing that has followed – nothing – can tarnish your honor or diminish your accomplishments. To you, and to the honored dead, our country is forever grateful. In the weeks and months following the 9/11 attacks, I was proud to lead an amazing, resilient, united people. When it comes to the unity of America, those days seems distant from our own. A malign force seems at work in our common life that turns every disagreement into an argument, and every argument into a clash of cultures. So much of our politics has become a naked appeal to anger, fear, and resentment. That leaves us worried about our nation and our future together. I come without explanations or solutions. I can only tell you what I have seen. On America’s day of trial and grief, I saw millions of people instinctively grab for a neighbor’s hand and rally to the cause of one another. That is the America I know. At a time when religious bigotry might have flowed freely, I saw Americans reject prejudice and embrace people of Muslim faith. That is the nation I know. At a time when nativism could have stirred hatred and violence against people perceived as outsiders, I saw Americans reaffirm their welcome of immigrants and refugees. That is the nation I know. At a time when some viewed the rising generation as individualistic and decadent, I saw young people embrace an ethic of service and rise to selfless action. That is the nation I know. This is not mere nostalgia; it is the truest version of ourselves. It is what we have been – and what we can be again. Twenty years ago, terrorists chose a random group of Americans, on a routine flight, to be collateral damage in a spectacular act of terror. The 33 passengers and 7 crew of Flight 93 could have been any group of citizens selected by fate. In that sense, they stood in for us all. The terrorists soon discovered that a random group of Americans is an exceptional group of people. Facing an impossible circumstance, they comforted their loved ones by phone, braced each other for action, and defeated the designs of evil. These Americans were brave, strong, and united in ways that shocked the terrorists – but should not surprise any of us. This is the nation we know. (Applause.) And whenever we need hope and inspiration, we can look to the skies and remember. God bless.
September 15, 20214 yr Author Thank you mr irie for your service, and everyone else here that has or is still serving. I watched a little of the ceremonials on Saturday. It was nice to see our President and former presidents together. With the exception of the last one, and I think it's disgusting yet that's the individual that he is. Stops by a fire house. Really? Anyway, later in the day I had the History channel on and my kids were home and I said to them, look there's my cousin (your 2nd). My kids have never met him. He was an ATC supervisor at Newark airport that morning. He later went on to Iraq and set up the fire brigade at Baghdad airport. His father, another uncle and several cousins were all firefighters. The Irish side of my family was close knit when we were children. My mother was one of 9! We would all be together on Sunday nights at my grandfather's watching Walt Disney. The last time I saw my cousin was at his father's (my Godfather) funeral in late 2014. First West Chester Fire Co. They were all there in uniform, and as he was up on the engine and we drove through town on the way to the cemetery, people actually stopped and watched, and/or saluted. It was surreal. To further add to that day, our other cousins daughter was getting married. Can't help how things happen. It is probably a once in a lifetime that I attended a funeral and a wedding on the same day, same family. Thank you all for sharing. Firefighters will always have a special place in my heart.
September 16, 20214 yr Today marks the anniversary of another terror attack in Manhattan. Quote The Wall Street bombing occurred at 12:01 pm on Thursday, September 16, 1920, in the Financial District of Manhattan, New York City. The blast killed thirty people immediately, and another ten died later of wounds sustained in the blast. There were 143 seriously injured, and the total number of injured was in the hundreds.[2]: 160–61 [3] The bombing was never solved, although investigators and historians believe it was carried out by Galleanists (Italian anarchists), a group responsible for a series of bombings the previous year. The attack was related to postwar social unrest, labor struggles, and anti-capitalist agitation in the United States. The Wall Street bomb killed more people than the 1910 bombing of the Los Angeles Times, which was the deadliest act of terrorism on U.S. soil up to that point.
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