May 13, 20205 yr On 4/28/2020 at 11:39 AM, toolg said: I feel DJax and Reagor are the only virtual locks. I don't think Alshon will get cut - They will seek a trade, and if one doesn't pan out he could be on IR when he gets a hangnail. JJAW needs to show up and be the outside possession/red zone/move the chains guy. I would like to see Ward make the roster. He's a good backup WR as he can play different spots. Goodwin is a veteran camp tryout. Watkins and Hightower could be PS stashes. It looks like the Eagles got fast all of a sudden at WR when they were such a relatively slow offense last season. They have a built in excuse for Jeffrey, Lis Franc surgeries can take quite a while to heal. Nobody's gonna trade for him until he's healthy. It seems like this could be an PUP/IR season for him if it suits the Eagles purposes.
May 13, 20205 yr The locks are Jackson and Reagor. Jeffrey on IR. The rest, get em all in camp and preseason to compete. If JJAW as a 2nd round pick with 1 year experience in the system can't beat out 5th and 6th round rookies then he deserves to be cut.
May 14, 20205 yr On 4/28/2020 at 11:12 AM, Outlaw said: Goodwin is not a lock. I see it working out this way: Alshon-IR or traded or cut Locks- DJax Reagor JJaw Competition for 3 spots- Hightower, Watkins, Ward, Goodwin (1 gets cut/sent to PS) I think watkins goes to PS or one of the WR"s has a fluke injury to go on IR. Whoever offers more on special teams n as KR PR between watkins n hightower probably makes active roster. We may also start jeffrey on IR if he's not fully healed n in game shape which is possible with no training camp.
May 14, 20205 yr On 4/29/2020 at 5:19 AM, UK_EaglesFan89 said: Ward did more than catch a couple of passes to be fair. He showed that he can be a fine and reliable slot WR. Mix in the other options in the slot and I think we're good there. It's amazing to me how people just dismiss Ward. He was given a chance down the stretch last year and showed he could play. He has some speed, can get separation and get open and catches the ball.
May 14, 20205 yr 4 hours ago, 315Eagles said: It's amazing to me how people just dismiss Ward. He was given a chance down the stretch last year and showed he could play. He has some speed, can get separation and get open and catches the ball. I just think most realise what Ward is. He's a decent to good slot WR. Not really anything more than that but with better weapons around i think he can have even more of an impact.
May 14, 20205 yr 14 hours ago, eglz1 said: They have a built in excuse for Jeffrey, Lis Franc surgeries can take quite a while to heal. Nobody's gonna trade for him until he's healthy. It seems like this could be an PUP/IR season for him if it suits the Eagles purposes. Yeah. I was thinking optimistic. That the injury will heal sooner, so they'd try to get Alshon on the field, to give teams a show so they can deal him away. The more I think about it, perhaps he starts out on PUP and stays there. Lisfranc injury can be a pain (no pun intended).
May 14, 20205 yr Author 13 hours ago, 315Eagles said: It's amazing to me how people just dismiss Ward. He was given a chance down the stretch last year and showed he could play. He has some speed, can get separation and get open and catches the ball. Yeah I really like Ward as well. He doesn't do anything exceptionally, but he is absolutey solid in nearly everything. Plus he is a crafty player when he finds open space.
May 14, 20205 yr 11 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: I just think most realise what Ward is. He's a decent to good slot WR. Not really anything more than that but with better weapons around i think he can have even more of an impact. Nobody thinks he should be a #1 option but he belongs as a slot or backup for sure.
May 14, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, 315Eagles said: Nobody thinks he should be a #1 option but he belongs as a slot or backup for sure. Absolutely. And I think he'll make the roster because well who else can play slot? Unless someone else became available that they felt was an upgrade.
May 14, 20205 yr On 4/28/2020 at 1:57 PM, Outlaw said: Ward is a good clutch slot guy. Not as explosive as the other 3 for sure but I think he still has a good shot to make the squad. I agree Ward will be either WR3,4,or5. He knows the offense, he is versatile & has chem w Wentz.
May 14, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, PaulyB384 said: I agree Ward will be either WR3,4,or5. He knows the offense, he is versatile & has chem w Wentz. Don't forget emergency QB.
May 14, 20205 yr On 4/28/2020 at 10:49 AM, UK_EaglesFan89 said: What I'd do? I'd go with 7 on the roster. With Desean always missing some time, with JJAW being a non factor last year and Reagor being a rookie I'd personally just like to see us load up at the position. In reality? That's not going to happen, they'll go with 6 I'm sure and they'll have a battle. I'd guess DeSean, Reagor and JJAW are locks. Alshon is a bit of an X factor. Given what we did in the draft I'd like to think he'll sit on IR or just not be here. If he is then there's really only a battle between 4 players for 2 spots. We aren't likely to contend for the SB this year so I'd much rather they stick with the younger guys and give them every chance. Though I do what what Goodwin can potentially do and so I'm hopeful he makes the roster over Alshon. Seriously? Last season we could've easily won the East by two games or more if not for injuries. We handily beat the team that made it to the NFCCG during the season. I think if we are healthy we have to be among the top 3-4 favorites to go all the way. What could stop that is COVID, not the roster talent which is arguably better this year.
May 14, 20205 yr 6 minutes ago, Madriver said: I think if we are healthy we have to be among the top 3-4 favorites to go all the way And that's fine, that's your opinion. I have serious question marks over this team though.
May 14, 20205 yr Has Goodwin's contract been restructured yet? I saw rumors from Mike Kaye, but nothing confirmed by major sports sources. Without restructuring his contract down from $4million, I could see Goodwin getting cut.
May 15, 20205 yr 10 hours ago, kentwo said: Without restructuring his contract down from $4million, I could see Goodwin getting cut. I think they did restructure straight away yes. But even a restructure probably makes a cut more likely because we won't take such a hit. It all comes down to his health really.
May 15, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: I think they did restructure straight away yes. But even a restructure probably makes a cut more likely because we won't take such a hit. It all comes down to his health really. I agree, health is key for him. He has an edge because without OTAs and other activities at least he has NFL experience that the rookies lack. I'm still dubious on the contract restructuring. All the articles I read goes back to Mike Kaye as the only source. The reported restructure would be good for both sides. Less money for the Eagles and guaranteed money for Goodwin. Just haven't seen it confirmed by anyone else yet. So if it hasn't been done, then for sure cutting him and saving $4 mil is an easy call.
May 15, 20205 yr 49 minutes ago, kentwo said: I agree, health is key for him. He has an edge because without OTAs and other activities at least he has NFL experience that the rookies lack. I think he's really talented too. Like he could be a good #2 WR if he could stay healthy. But of course that's a big IF.
July 16, 20205 yr On 4/28/2020 at 11:03 AM, QBhunter58 said: With training camp canceled/TBD i find it hard to believe any of the late round guys will supplant a guy like Greg Ward or JJAW (boy he better show up). I really like all the speed we added, but we have so many options now and only 5-6 spots? If the politics of draft position doesn't play a role in decisions, of the rookie WR class I believe the most promising out of them all is Manasseh Bailey, and yes, that includes Reagor!! He's a 6'1'', 195lbs, 4.39 40, ??'' vertical, HBCU converted LB. He's very athletic with good hands and a strong runner that reminds me of TO.
July 16, 20205 yr 7 minutes ago, EagleVA said: If the politics of draft position doesn't play a role in decisions, of the rookie WR class I believe the most promising out of them all is Manasseh Bailey, and yes, that includes Reagor!! He's a 6'1'', 195lbs, 4.39 40, ??'' vertical, HBCU converted LB. He's very athletic with good hands and a strong runner that reminds me of TO. I watched the Army-Morgan State game to see what the team had in Elijah Riley, and I liked what i saw in Bailey so much that I watched the rest of Morgan State's games just to see how he looked, and I was really impressed. The one thing he does really well is adjust to the ball on deep throws. He didn't have great stats in college, but he did draw at least six pass interference penalties that I counted, including three in one game against FAMU. Most of the time opposing defenders just had to grab him as he blew by them. He did have a few drops, but also made some really good catches, so I don't think his hands are an issue. He wasn't asked to run a lot of different routes, and he did show some sloppy tendencies on some of his routes, but I think he can clean that up. I think he has a legit shot at the roster. He's a former linebacker, so he has a lot of special teams value. He blocked two punts last year, and is also a violent blocker in the run game. You could see corners start to get sick of being blocked by him, and most of them just gave up trying to make plays in the run game after a few series. On a sidenote, the only guy who was able to cover him on a deep route was Riley (though he gave up a few completions to him on shorter routes). So Riley has some speed as well. I think both of these guys have a shot at the roster.
July 16, 20205 yr In regards to Ward, I made the comparison in another thread that I think he can be similar to Jason Avant in the slot. Neither are/were game breakers, but have shown they can reliably find some separation on short to mid routes and CATCH the ball. Avant was a little bigger, Ward is a little faster, but I think Ward can serve a role very similar to what Avant did. Just a reliable pass catcher that will be a good safety valve and can move the chains.
July 16, 20205 yr On 4/29/2020 at 4:44 AM, allphilly said: Has a team ever cut a second round pick after 1 year? lol We drafted a DT in the 2nd round that was cut at final cuts his rookie season. Late 70s early 80s I think.
July 16, 20205 yr One similar situation in recent memory is Dorial Green-Beckham. 2nd round pick for the Titans in 2015, they gave up on him after at year and traded to the Eagles (for T Dennis Kelly). He was cut by the Eagles the following offseason.
July 16, 20205 yr 14 hours ago, EagleVA said: If the politics of draft position doesn't play a role in decisions, of the rookie WR class I believe the most promising out of them all is Manasseh Bailey, and yes, that includes Reagor!! He's a 6'1'', 195lbs, 4.39 40, ??'' vertical, HBCU converted LB. He's very athletic with good hands and a strong runner that reminds me of TO. I dont know much about this kid but I watched the sizzle tape. I dont know why but he reminds me of Jordan Matthews, but faster.
July 16, 20205 yr Author 23 minutes ago, NOTW said: One similar situation in recent memory is Dorial Green-Beckham. 2nd round pick for the Titans in 2015, they gave up on him after at year and traded to the Eagles (for T Dennis Kelly). He was cut by the Eagles the following offseason. yeah but DGB was full of question marks before they drafted him. By all accounts JJAW is a great kid and a hard worker (he just kinds sucks so far)
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