4 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

js, the articles you posted in this thread are months or years old. this shows how long this game has been played.

are they increasing pressure? yeah, for the moment. I don't know where 50 some airplanes flying into the Taiwan defense zone stacks up historically, but the flight paths were well outside of the island. there aren't a bunch of Chinese jets flying over Taiwan.

The are articles I posted are since July, 2021 to present. Not that long ago. 

I believe these flights have ramped up this year. This time was reported as the most flights at one time. 

6 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Well, yeah -- if we ever repealed the 1979 Act, Taiwan is screwed. But that won't happen anytime soon.

@jsdarkstar

the West Wing episode is "Hartfield's Landing" from Season 3. It's fantastic. It's also the episode they re-did as a play in 2020 on HBO Max. 

I do not disagree with you, sir.

7 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Well, yeah -- if we ever repealed the 1979 Act, Taiwan is screwed. But that won't happen anytime soon.

@jsdarkstar

the West Wing episode is "Hartfield's Landing" from Season 3. It's fantastic. It's also the episode they re-did as a play in 2020 on HBO Max. 

I'll you tube later tonight. Thanks.

52 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

no

You would think that by saying no, we are keeping ourselves out of the fray.  In reality, sooner or later the hostilities would come home to haunt us.  Stop this now, or be faced with a bigger problem in the future.  Some things cannot be avoided.

45 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said:

I wasn't aware that China had plans to take over other countries besides Taiwan. 

Oh Communist China has very ambitious plans.  They will not stop with Taiwan.

14 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Well, yeah -- if we ever repealed the 1979 Act, Taiwan is screwed. But that won't happen anytime soon.

The real issue is whether or not the U.S. will honor the 1979 Act even if it is not repealed.

1 minute ago, Procus said:

Oh Communist China has very ambitious plans.  They will not stop with Taiwan.

Care to elaborate on those plans? 

2 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said:

Care to elaborate on those plans? 

Chinese tentacles extend worldwide these days.  It is a very ambitious country right now. 

For example - Africa   https://nationalinterest.org/feature/takeover-trap-why-imperialist-china-invading-africa-66421

Latin America  https://nationalinterest.org/feature/takeover-trap-why-imperialist-china-invading-africa-66421

Afghanistan  https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/how-does-china-see-future-afghanistan-194708

The world  https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnmauldin/2019/11/12/chinas-grand-plan-to-take-over-the-world/?sh=350abd845ab5

17 minutes ago, Procus said:

You would think that by saying no, we are keeping ourselves out of the fray.  In reality, sooner or later the hostilities would come home to haunt us.  Stop this now, or be faced with a bigger problem in the future.  Some things cannot be avoided.

we've been in the fray too many times in too many countries, all while our own country spirals into a sheethole. let the rest of the world police this one.

 

btw, china isn't going to invade Taiwan anyway. 

How can the right be staunchly isolationist while simultaneously demanding action on foreign soil?

 

10 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

we've been in the fray too many times in too many countries, all while our own country spirals into a sheethole. let the rest of the world police this one.

 

btw, china isn't going to invade Taiwan anyway. 

Isolationism is one thing when it comes to war torn countries in africa or the middle east. It's another entirely when it comes to a major industrial hub and trading partner. We wouldn't, and shouldn't, sit idly by while if a full scale invasion were to happen (which I agree, isn't plausible.)

17 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Isolationism is one thing when it comes to war torn countries in africa or the middle east. It's another entirely when it comes to a major industrial hub and trading partner. We wouldn't, and shouldn't, sit idly by while if a full scale invasion were to happen (which I agree, isn't plausible.)

i know i'm being impractical, but im just tired of the endless BS. 

1 minute ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

i know i'm being impractical, but im just tired of the endless BS. 

Yeah, well, about that endless BS?

 

Won't be over any time soon.

3 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

i know i'm being impractical, but im just tired of the endless BS. 

I hear ya. It's always easy for us to sit back and talk about when we should invoke military action when it ain't our kids being sent half-way around the world to protect our economic interests. 

1 hour ago, Procus said:

Chinese tentacles extend worldwide these days.  It is a very ambitious country right now. 

For example - Africa   https://nationalinterest.org/feature/takeover-trap-why-imperialist-china-invading-africa-66421

Latin America  https://nationalinterest.org/feature/takeover-trap-why-imperialist-china-invading-africa-66421

Afghanistan  https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/how-does-china-see-future-afghanistan-194708

The world  https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnmauldin/2019/11/12/chinas-grand-plan-to-take-over-the-world/?sh=350abd845ab5

So those articles are talking about expansion economically, not Militarily. I was asking more about what the plans are for military invasion besides Taiwan.

29 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said:

So those articles are talking about expansion economically, not Militarily. I was asking more about what the plans are for military invasion besides Taiwan.

I think it would be a mistake to equate China with WWII style takeovers.  Germany and Japan invaded and occupied their neighbors.  Think more of Rome and ancient Judea.  The Romans were invited in, and then never left.

2 hours ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

we've been in the fray too many times in too many countries, all while our own country spirals into a sheethole. let the rest of the world police this one.

 

btw, china isn't going to invade Taiwan anyway. 

Acting like oceans will protect us and we would be unaffected is pure folly. 

She’ll be sailing through the South China Sea (on the way home) and making it clear our navy has a right to do that,” Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson told The Australian.
 

I don’t think it gets any more gansta that that^^^
 

 

5 hours ago, jsdarkstar said:

I wasn't aware that China had plans to take over other countries besides Taiwan. 

They want to be the world hegemon, like most nations. They're smart enough to realize that invading Taiwan is an incredibly risky move and broad based naked aggression on the world stage will end up with the whole world against them and a whole lot of nukes flying their way.

They're smarter than to make such brash decisions.

They'll look for a neo-colonial model. They're doing this in Africa already. They buy up ports, one belt/road project, etc. They're building up soft power. They're infiltrating universities and corporations to steal technology and play games with NGOs. The Cold War and MAD has made outright conflict between major nations nearly impossible. One thing China has going for them is patience. They're willing to wait, to work slowly, and let the west make mistakes.

The US needs a war. The plandemic isnt doing it for them.

All we need now is a serious enough transgression and a "breaking report" confirming that the kung flu was released from Wuhan.

News at 11!!!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/taiwan-defence-minister-says-china-012437817.html

Taiwan defence minister pushes new arms spending, says China tensions worst in four decades

TAIPEI (Reuters) - Military tensions with China are at their worst in more than 40 years, Taiwan's defence minister said on Wednesday, promoting a new arms spending package to lawmakers days after record numbers of Chinese aircraft flew into the island's air defence zone.

Tensions have hit a new high between Taipei and Beijing, which claims the democratic island as its own territory, and Chinese military aircraft have repeatedly flown through Taiwan's air defence identification zone, though no shots have been fired and the planes have stayed away from mainland Taiwan.

Over a four day period beginning last Friday, Taiwan reported close to 150 Chinese air force aircraft https://tmsnrt.rs/3ld6TyI entered its air defence zone, part of a pattern of what Taipei calls Beijing's continued harassment of the island. Just one incursion was reported on Tuesday.

Asked by a lawmaker on the current military tensions with China at the parliament, Defence Minister Chiu Kuo-cheng said the situation was "the most serious" in more than 40 years since he joined the military, adding there was a risk of a "misfire" across the sensitive Taiwan Strait.

16 hours ago, Gannan said:

Acting like oceans will protect us and we would be unaffected is pure folly. 

who is saying that ? 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-marines-special-operators-quietly-173652712.html

US Marines and special operators have been quietly training troops in Taiwan amid concerns about China, report says

• A small contingent of US troops has been quietly training Taiwan's military amid concerns about China, the Wall Street Journal reports.

• The US personnel in Taiwan reportedly include Marines and special operators.

• The Pentagon did not comment on the news, but said US support for Taiwan is aligned against threats posed by China.

On 10/6/2021 at 8:33 PM, lynched1 said:

The US needs a war. The plandemic isnt doing it for them.

All we need now is a serious enough transgression and a "breaking report" confirming that the kung flu was released from Wuhan.

News at 11!!!

Hey, Nostrildumbass!! Cool prediction. Do it again!

6 hours ago, Toastrel said:

Hey, Nostrildumbass!! Cool prediction. Do it again!

Took care of you in the other thread.

You're welcome.