May 28, 20205 yr Author Dave Smith interviews Jo Jorgensen on his podcast, Part of the Problem. It’s good to see the "radical caucus” and the "pragmatic caucus” come together.
May 29, 20205 yr 2 hours ago, Gannan said: Is Amash going to run for re-election to Congress? I hope so. I wonder if he's waiting this out til 2024 and run Republican primary for POTUS.
May 29, 20205 yr Author 48 minutes ago, NOTW said: I wonder if he's waiting this out til 2024 and run Republican primary for POTUS. I would hope he stays with the LP and runs with them. The cards are stacked against third party candidates as it is, with ballot access issues, this year will be much harder. Both parties do what they can to limit their competition.
May 29, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, Tnt4philly said: I would hope he stays with the LP and runs with them. The cards are stacked against third party candidates as it is, with ballot access issues, this year will be much harder. Both parties do what they can to limit their competition. The only way a 3rd party candidate gets into the debates is if they are filthy rich and can buy their way in like Perot (Bloomberg? Cuban?) or they are a celebrity
May 31, 20205 yr Author On 5/29/2020 at 2:56 PM, NOTW said: But does she know what Aleppo is? I wasn’t in the LP or even thinking about them back then but remember not liking that Johnson seemed stoned all the time. I’m a huge weed advocate but not when I’m working. Anyway, It’s a shame that this gotcha question was the focus of this interview because he went on to answer the question on how he would the handle the Syria situation fairly well. Quote BARNICLE: What would you do, if you were elected, about Aleppo? JOHNSON: About? BARNICLE: Aleppo. JOHNSON: And what is Aleppo? BARNICLE: You’re kidding. JOHNSON: No. BARNICLE: Aleppo is in Syria. It’s the — it’s the epicenter of the refugee crisis. JOHNSON: OK, got it, got it. BARNICLE: OK. Quote JOHNSON: Well, with regard to Syria, I do think that it’s a mess. I think that the only way that we deal with Syria is to join hands with Russia to diplomatically bring that at an end. But when we’ve aligned ourselves with — when we’ve supported the opposition of the Free Syrian Army — the Free Syrian Army is also coupled with the Islamists. And then the fact that we’re also supporting the Kurds and this is — it’s just — it’s just a mess. And that this is the result of regime change that we end up supporting. And, inevitably, these regime changes have led a less-safe world. GEIST: So alliance with Russia is the solution to Syria. Do you think Vladimir Putin and Russia are good and a reliable partner? JOHNSON: Well, I think diplomatically that that is the — that that has to be the solution, is joining hands with Russia to bring — to bring this civil war to an end. BRZEZINSKI: Joe? SCARBOROUGH: So, Aleppo is the center of a lot of people’s concerns across the planet about the terrible humanitarian crisis that’s unfolding not only in Syria but, especially, in Aleppo. You asked, "What is Aleppo?” Do you really think that foreign policy is so insignificant that somebody running for President of the United States shouldn’t even know what Aleppo is, where Aleppo is, why Aleppo is so important? JOHNSON: Well, no, I do understand Aleppo, and I — I understand the crisis that is going on. But when we involve ourselves militarily — when we involve ourselves in these humanitarian issues we end up — we end up with a situation that in most cases is not better, and in many cases ends up being worse. And we find ourselves always — politicians are up against the wall and asked what to do about these things and this is why we end up committing military force in areas that, like I say, at the end of the day have an unintended consequence of making things worse. https://www.google.com/amp/s/time.com/4483779/gary-johnson-aleppo-transcript/%3famp=true
May 31, 20205 yr Johnson completely stoned out of his mind was still better than Trump or Hillary. I’ll be at death’s door still arguing this. Lol
June 1, 20205 yr Author Quote SCOTT SIMON, HOST: The Libertarian Party has nominated their candidates for president and vice president online. Jo Jorgensen, a party activist who teaches psychology at Clemson University, is the 2020 Libertarian candidate for president. She joins us now from Greenville, S.C. Dr. Jorgensen, thanks so much for being with us. JO JORGENSEN: Oh, pleasure's all mine. And, please, Jo is fine. Thank you. SIMON: You've been critical of the federal government's response to the coronavirus crisis. What would a Libertarian administration do? JORGENSEN: Well, the Libertarian administration first wouldn't have put everybody under house arrest. We believe in individual freedom and that people should be able to go about their lives as they choose. And I'd like to point out that part of the problem that we had is that people were tested to know if they were contagious or not, if they had the virus or not. If people who had the virus knew they had the virus, then they would have been able to know to stay home or not go about their daily lives. But the people who are healthy or who have already had the flu let the economy go on and don't destroy the economy in the process. SIMON: I want to follow up on your use of the phrase house arrest. I doubt any governor or mayor who declared that people should stay at home would consider that to be house arrest. JORGENSEN: People who want to go out and go about their daily business felt like it. And in fact, I know here in South Carolina, I was told I could only leave the house to go to work, medical emergencies and other things. And within my city, if there were more than three people outside, then there was a possibility that we would either be fined $100 or that we would go to jail. SIMON: But isn't - in the middle of a pandemic, isn't that just wise? JORGENSEN: Of course, it's wise to stay at home during a pandemic, especially if you've got other conditions. My problem, though, is that the government is the one who decided it and not the individual person. And in fact, when they did a survey - what? - maybe about a month ago and they asked people, should we be opening up the economy, something like 60 to 80% of the people said no, it's too soon. We should still stay at home. OK, so that just shows that people have enough common sense to stay at home without the government telling them to. SIMON: There are now more than 40 million unemployed people in the United States. You have opposed, I gather, the stimulus bills that have been passed to provide unemployment benefits and other forms of relief. Why? JORGENSEN: Because what we're doing is we're letting the bureaucrats spend the money how they want to. And it's going to the large corporations and not often to the people who need it. So I say that private charity always works best. What happens when you give money to the government, and let's say they don't spend it wisely? Nothing happens. Taxes get raised, but it's not like people get fired. There is absolutely no accountability. And one of the things that brought me into the Libertarian Party is the idea of voluntary cooperation, of how people working together can do a better job. SIMON: But when 40 million people are unemployed virtually at once, I mean, how can you begin to raise the amount of charitable capital? Particularly, by the way, I believe one of the stories we keep doing is that individual donations are way down because 40 million people are out of work. JORGENSEN: Right. Well, don't forget, if the government hadn't shut down the economy, people wouldn't have lost their jobs in the first place. So this is typical where the government breaks your leg and then thinks that you should be grateful that you're getting a crutch from them. If the government doesn't break your leg to begin with, you don't need the crutch. SIMON: I've got to ask you about your running mate. His name is Spike Cohen. He calls himself an anarchist. He says he's running to troll the system. He has a platform that promises, as I understand it, free ponies and a Waffle House on every corner. JORGENSEN: I believe you are reciting the presidential platform of one of my competitors who lost, and Spike is now on my team. And so no, that's not our platform. SIMON: Well, it's not your platform. You mean - are you saying Spike Cohen never said that? JORGENSEN: What I'm saying is now that Spike Cohen has joined my team, we've got a combined platform that is mine. SIMON: Well, I assume that, you know, Waffle House in every corner and free ponies was always a kind of joke. JORGENSEN: Yes, it was. SIMON: I want to appreciate jokes. JORGENSEN: Yes (laughter). SIMON: But, I mean, all of that being said, is this a person, should you be elected, prepared to be president of the United States? JORGENSEN: Absolutely, it was a joke campaign, and absolutely, it was to get attention. And all I can say is I am a college senior lecturer. And I am more qualified than either Trump or Biden to run this country. SIMON: Why? How? JORGENSEN: Most people are realizing that government has gotten too big, and they would like some of that control back. When people are given the freedom and the liberty to live how they want to, they work hard. When they are cynical and basically all of their money goes to the government, they lose motivation. We're just headed in that direction, and that's what concerns me. SIMON: Jo Jorgensen, the 2020 Libertarian candidate for president, thanks so much for being with us. JORGENSEN: Well, thank you for having me. This was great being on. I appreciate it. https://www.npr.org/2020/05/30/866059206/libertarians-name-2020-candidate-meet-jo-jorgensen
June 1, 20205 yr 16 hours ago, Dave Moss said: Johnson completely stoned out of his mind was still better than Trump or Hillary. I’ll be at death’s door still arguing this. Lol Would we rather have a stoner who leaves it up to congress to legislate and hasn't passed a single executive order in the last 3 and a half years? I know I would.
June 2, 20205 yr On 5/31/2020 at 4:14 PM, Dave Moss said: Johnson completely stoned out of his mind was still better than Trump or Hillary. I’ll be at death’s door still arguing this. Lol "You want a pallet of cash delivered to the desert? How about a pallet of amethyst crystals instead? You'll totally connect with the universe, man!"
July 18, 20205 yr On 7/17/2020 at 7:50 AM, Seventy_Yard_FG said: Amash isn’t running for re-election... sad Came to post this and wonder what he plans are
July 18, 20205 yr Author On 7/17/2020 at 7:50 AM, Seventy_Yard_FG said: Amash isn’t running for re-election... sad 1 hour ago, DaEagles4Life said: Came to post this and wonder what he plans are I just hope he continues to be a vocal advocate for libertarianism and the LP and makes a POTUS run in 2024.
July 19, 20205 yr https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/trump-secret-police-portland/ Quote On the face of it, what these federal officers are doing is illegal and unconstitutional. It’s possible that they are acting under the 2011 National Defense Authorization Act, signed by Barack Obama, which legalized the detention of Americans suspected of being terrorists. If so, then the War on Terrorism has truly come home. So I was just over on RonPaulForums and this is the first this has been brought to my attention. Apparently people are getting bagged in unmarked vans and let go at the court house without probable cause. It's speculated they're using the NDAA to justify this, although it could be a long time before we get an official legal opinion. If so, there's debate among libertarians whether to support BLM and call out this abuse of power or to say "sorry I told you so" and let it go now that it works in our favor. It is disturbing though, to think you could just get bagged like that in a city in America, regardless of what's happening. I'd much prefer an open confrontation in the streets to this secret shady stuff.
March 20, 20214 yr 14 minutes ago, NOTW said: lol I just posted this in the political pics thread. it's fantastic. "am I being detained?"
March 21, 20214 yr lol from 1980 https://www.thecrimson.com/article/1980/10/28/six-ways-to-argue-with-a/ How things change, and other things stay the same
April 7, 20214 yr There is no license required to drive a vehicle on private property with the consent of the owner. Public roads, paid for by tax dollars? Yeah, the government has not only the authority but the responsibility to regulate it. Next they'll say "do I need a green light to tell me when I can go? NO!"
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