2 hours ago, toolg said:

NYC gets to decide what statues NYC wants to keep or take down.

riiiiiiiiiiiiight, and it's our right, nay, I say, JOB to call out their stupidity when they act stupid.

You should call into WIP one morning when everyone is ripping Siriani's playcalling and say, "Nick gets to decide what plays the Eagles run!"  

1 hour ago, Dave Moss said:

Jefferson repeatedly argued that slavery would go away naturally which is one of the all-time bad takes in US history. But to his credit he finally did realize he was wrong a few years before his death.

He was 100% right about that. Slavery was completely inefficient. It would have been over once mechanization took hold, and likely sooner, just purely from a business perspective. Never mind the social pressure.

We've got to make way for the true heroes:

And George Floyd statues. Every city needs at least one of those. 

27 minutes ago, TEW said:

He was 100% right about that. Slavery was completely inefficient. It would have been over once mechanization took hold, and likely sooner, just purely from a business perspective. Never mind the social pressure.

Which is the important part in the equation. The business angle of slavery.

27 minutes ago, TEW said:

He was 100% right about that. Slavery was completely inefficient. It would have been over once mechanization took hold, and likely sooner, just purely from a business perspective. Never mind the social pressure.

Well there was a war that cost 750,000 lives and the losers are still parading around with their flags 150 years later, but other than that good points.

3 hours ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

you jackazzez not voting for #3 are prime examples of why this country is so F'd. 

Yes, #3 is the correct choice 

1 hour ago, Toastrel said:

Which is the important part in the equation. The business angle of slavery.

It’s the important part of claiming it was an all-time bad take when it was, in fact, correct on multiple levels.

1 hour ago, Dave Moss said:

Well there was a war that cost 750,000 lives and the losers are still parading around with their flags 150 years later, but other than that good points.

The most ardent racists in America are the ones who want to be the furthest away from black people. So yeah, TJ was right and you are wrong, which is about the least shocking statement anyone could ever make.

8 minutes ago, TEW said:

The most ardent racists in America are the ones who want to be the furthest away from black people. So yeah, TJ was right and you are wrong, which is about the least shocking statement anyone could ever make.

Yeah I guess making Sally Hemmings his sex slave and then having her sold on the auction block after his death really showed how much Thomas Jefferson cared about black people.  Great take

1 minute ago, Dave Moss said:

Yeah I guess making Sally Hemmings his sex slave and then having her sold on the auction block after his death really showed how much Thomas Jefferson cared about black people.  Great take

Who said he cared?

He thought it would go away naturally. It did in our mother country. It would have here as well. You’re wrong, TJ was right.

14 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

Yeah I guess making Sally Hemmings his sex slave and then having her sold on the auction block after his death really showed how much Thomas Jefferson cared about black people.  Great take

So you agree the statue should be removed, correct?

3 hours ago, Dave Moss said:

By the way Jefferson was dumb enough to put in writing that black people are inferior to white people. Even Jon Gruden wasn’t that dumb.

so did Lincoln.

different times. different norms. different expectations. 

it's ridiculous to hold people to standards out of tune with their time. 

27 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

So you agree the statue should be removed, correct?

Sure why not.  Put some dynamite under it and blow it up.  IDGAF

1 minute ago, Dave Moss said:

Sure why not.  Put some dynamite under it and blow it up.  IDGAF

Ok, good to know exactly where you stand.  Why give Kzzz a shot?

2 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Ok, good to know exactly where you stand.

Also, destroy the Capitol and make Trump dictator for life.

Just now, Dave Moss said:

Also destroy the Capitol and make Trump dictator for life

So blow up the TJ statue, destroy the Capitol, and make Trump dictator for life.  An updated and current Moss position.

1 minute ago, DrPhilly said:

So blow up the TJ statue, destroy the Capitol, and make Trump dictator for life.  An updated and current Moss position.

Make the Dakotas into one state, move the nation’s capital to Palm Beach, and revise the Constitution.

Just now, Dave Moss said:

Make the Dakotas into one state, move the nation’s capital to Palm Beach, and revise the Constitution.

Cot dang, Moss for POTUS!

1 minute ago, DrPhilly said:

Cot dang, Moss for POTUS!

Abolish speed limits, change the drinking age back to 18, make the college football playoff 16 teams, and bring back smoking in public buildings.

Just now, Dave Moss said:

Abolish speed limits, change the drinking age back to 18, make the college football playoff 16 teams, and bring back smoking in public buildings.

Keep going...

2 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Keep going...

Legalize mariquana nationwide, make the day after the Super Bowl a holiday, get rid of the IRS, and allow women to be nude at the Jersey shore

1 minute ago, Dave Moss said:

Legalize mariquana nationwide, make the day after the Super Bowl a holiday, get rid of the IRS, and allow women to be nude at the Jersey shore

You're onto something.  Continue...

1 minute ago, DrPhilly said:

You're onto something.  Continue...

Maybe after the Sixers game

2 hours ago, Dave Moss said:

Legalize mariquana nationwide, make the day after the Super Bowl a holiday, get rid of the IRS, and allow women to be nude at the Jersey shore

That’s not going to go the way you hope it will...

NYC is a sheethole so a sheety decision is expected from them. Stupid, but par for the course.