4 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

So I had legit concerns. I still fail to realize how you jump to the conclusion that I somehow think my comments or concerns will have an effect on the players. You’ve been behind JJAW 100% for years now and he hasn’t gotten any better. Bottom line no need to over analyze this thing. No need to expect the playoffs, because people swing like a pendulum week to week. I have no delusions that my posts suddenly make the Eagles play better or worse just as I’m as sure no matter how many videos you post of JJAW running around and catching nothing will suddenly make the Eagles throw him the football. 

I'd love for you to point to one post where I praised JJAW in any way (other than being a good blocker for a WR). It's crazy, to me, that as a fan I'm lambasted by my peers for supporting a member of the team that many fans have irrational hate for. I never even said the guy was "a good WR" ever. I simply am willing to give the guy a chance while he's on the roster. If someone beats him out for playing time like Fulgham did last year, I'm fine with that. If he loses his roster spot because we have 5 or 6 better WRs, I'm fine with that. While he's on the roster, if he helps the team by playing 20 special teams snaps per game and gets a handful of snaps on offense where his only job is to block and he does it well, I'm fine with that. 

IMO, the JJAW hate is mostly just a byproduct of the Howie hate. Right now you see a lot of people unwilling to give Hurts a chance. I feel a large factor in that is once again because that was Howie's pick. People hate Howie so much that they want to see his picks fail. The only exception to that is if he just so happened to pick a player that those fans wanted (like D. Smith this year).  FYI, I'm also behind Hurts 100%. He's not some kind of instant phenom. He is a hard-working player with a skillset that when used properly and coached properly can possibly become a one of the better QBs in the NFL over time. I always believe that it takes QBs several years to become the best version of themselves. There was a point this year where Hurts didn't appear to be progressing and it was a concern. But the offense has been tweaked a bit the last 3 weeks and he seems much more comfortable. There's something clicking right now and we need to build off that. 

I'm pretty much done talking about JJAW until he does something worth mentioning. You should quit obsessing about the dude. He's currently an Eagle and I support him. If that's weird, I don't know what to say. 

4 hours ago, brkmsn said:

I'd love for you to point to one post where I praised JJAW in any way (other than being a good blocker for a WR). It's crazy, to me, that as a fan I'm lambasted by my peers for supporting a member of the team that many fans have irrational hate for. I never even said the guy was "a good WR" ever. I simply am willing to give the guy a chance while he's on the roster. If someone beats him out for playing time like Fulgham did last year, I'm fine with that. If he loses his roster spot because we have 5 or 6 better WRs, I'm fine with that. While he's on the roster, if he helps the team by playing 20 special teams snaps per game and gets a handful of snaps on offense where his only job is to block and he does it well, I'm fine with that. 

IMO, the JJAW hate is mostly just a byproduct of the Howie hate. Right now you see a lot of people unwilling to give Hurts a chance. I feel a large factor in that is once again because that was Howie's pick. People hate Howie so much that they want to see his picks fail. The only exception to that is if he just so happened to pick a player that those fans wanted (like D. Smith this year).  FYI, I'm also behind Hurts 100%. He's not some kind of instant phenom. He is a hard-working player with a skillset that when used properly and coached properly can possibly become a one of the better QBs in the NFL over time. I always believe that it takes QBs several years to become the best version of themselves. There was a point this year where Hurts didn't appear to be progressing and it was a concern. But the offense has been tweaked a bit the last 3 weeks and he seems much more comfortable. There's something clicking right now and we need to build off that. 

I'm pretty much done talking about JJAW until he does something worth mentioning. You should quit obsessing about the dude. He's currently an Eagle and I support him. If that's weird, I don't know what to say. 

So much nonsense to unpack here I just don’t even have the time or patience to go through it. I’ll keep it somewhat brief. First off for one who basically trashes the coaches and quarterbacks to defend a bum like JJAW, you have the audacity to attempt to attack anyone who is being critical about a player on this team? You have criticized the coaches and the quarterbacks for not throwing the ball to Reagor and JJAW. News Flash: People don’t like these players because they stink and not because Howie drafted them. There are plenty of players on this roster people really like and guess what genius? Howie drafted them too!!! I don’t see anyone saying I hate Mialata, because Howie drafted him. In fact I don’t see anyone saying that about JJAW either. Now if you think a wide receiver being drafted in the second round who can’t catch, but is an average to slightly above average blocker is a good second round pick seek help, because you might be delusional. The real issue here is that both JJAW and Reagor have grossly underperformed compared to receivers drafted in their class. I mean if JJAW and Reagor were at least competent receivers people would feel better about them. They didn’t have to be 100 reception guys, but they’re barely 30 reception guys! Get a clue man! Getting to Hurts for a moment people had real issue with Howie taking Hurts, because (wait for it) they really liked the other quarterback who was here! Guess who drafted that guy? Bottom line is you wrote that I thought my comment somehow has an affect on the players. You ASSumed incorrectly, but rather than just admitting you were wrong you doubled down on arrogance and stupidity. Nobody cares about your love affair with a blocking wide receiver. Don’t presume you understand what I write. Speak for yourself. 

6 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

So much nonsense to unpack here I just don’t even have the time or patience to go through it. I’ll keep it somewhat brief. First off for one who basically trashes the coaches and quarterbacks to defend a bum like JJAW, you have the audacity to attempt to attack anyone who is being critical about a player on this team? You have criticized the coaches and the quarterbacks for not throwing the ball to Reagor and JJAW. News Flash: People don’t like these players because they stink and not because Howie drafted them. There are plenty of players on this roster people really like and guess what genius? Howie drafted them too!!! I don’t see anyone saying I hate Mialata, because Howie drafted him. In fact I don’t see anyone saying that about JJAW either. Now if you think a wide receiver being drafted in the second round who can’t catch, but is an average to slightly above average blocker is a good second round pick seek help, because you might be delusional. The real issue here is that both JJAW and Reagor have grossly underperformed compared to receivers drafted in their class. I mean if JJAW and Reagor were at least competent receivers people would feel better about them. They didn’t have to be 100 reception guys, but they’re barely 30 reception guys! Get a clue man! Getting to Hurts for a moment people had real issue with Howie taking Hurts, because (wait for it) they really liked the other quarterback who was here! Guess who drafted that guy? Bottom line is you wrote that I thought my comment somehow has an affect on the players. You ASSumed incorrectly, but rather than just admitting you were wrong you doubled down on arrogance and stupidity. Nobody cares about your love affair with a blocking wide receiver. Don’t presume you understand what I write. Speak for yourself. 

You keep hanging on to that strawman you created long ago where you claim JJAW is some kind of hero to me, which he is not. I did defend the guy against claims I didn't agree with (that he couldn't get open or get separation). His production is absolutely disappointing for a 2nd round pick --- something I have acknowledged repeatedly, yet you ignore. 

Let's get to your next strawman --- Where have I trashed the coaches and the QBs for not throwing the ball to Reagor or JJAW?  Sure, there is a ton of video of WRs on this team getting open last year and not targeted and I posted some of that. Why? Because it was legitimate concern. Wentz may have been my favorite player on the team while he was here, but he played poorly last year. I never trashed him. I never gave up on him. I even explained why I wouldn't have benched him last season and predicted correctly that doing so would lead to the departure of Wentz and Doug. You have a lot of gall suggesting that I trashed the QB last year when you have yet to stop to this day. He's gone and some of us have moved on, but your rhetoric persists. 

But I will continue to contend that player lack of production is not always entirely on the player. For example, many fans around here mocked the Eagles for sentimental player decisions and bringing back a "washed-up, has-been, waste of space, Howard with nothing left in the tank." They said Miami would have never released him mid-season (last year) from that guaranteed contract if he was useful. They said the practice squad spot he occupied could be used to groom a younger player at the position. The implication was that surely he sucks as a player since he hasn't produced since his return from the stinger injury. Lo and behold, an injury to Sanders gets his number called and all of a sudden fans are like "Why was this guy on the PS all this time!!??" His lack of production wasn't because he "he stinks" --- it was because he wasn't being used. 

When a WR doesn't get open, can't run routes well, fails to make a catch, fumbles the ball, etc... that's clearly on him. All the WRs on this team have made some mistakes. But when a guy isn't targeted or is on the sideline, that's either by play design (coaching) or because the QB chose to target someone else. In reality, both are factors effecting production.

In the last 3 games, we haven't thrown a lot of passes offensively. If this keeps up, I don't expect a lot of production from players not named Smith or Goedert. Those appear to be Hurts' favorite targets. 

 

1 hour ago, brkmsn said:

You keep hanging on to that strawman you created long ago where you claim JJAW is some kind of hero to me, which he is not. I did defend the guy against claims I didn't agree with (that he couldn't get open or get separation). His production is absolutely disappointing for a 2nd round pick --- something I have acknowledged repeatedly, yet you ignore. 

Let's get to your next strawman --- Where have I trashed the coaches and the QBs for not throwing the ball to Reagor or JJAW?  Sure, there is a ton of video of WRs on this team getting open last year and not targeted and I posted some of that. Why? Because it was legitimate concern. Wentz may have been my favorite player on the team while he was here, but he played poorly last year. I never trashed him. I never gave up on him. I even explained why I wouldn't have benched him last season and predicted correctly that doing so would lead to the departure of Wentz and Doug. You have a lot of gall suggesting that I trashed the QB last year when you have yet to stop to this day. He's gone and some of us have moved on, but your rhetoric persists. 

But I will continue to contend that player lack of production is not always entirely on the player. For example, many fans around here mocked the Eagles for sentimental player decisions and bringing back a "washed-up, has-been, waste of space, Howard with nothing left in the tank." They said Miami would have never released him mid-season (last year) from that guaranteed contract if he was useful. They said the practice squad spot he occupied could be used to groom a younger player at the position. The implication was that surely he sucks as a player since he hasn't produced since his return from the stinger injury. Lo and behold, an injury to Sanders gets his number called and all of a sudden fans are like "Why was this guy on the PS all this time!!??" His lack of production wasn't because he "he stinks" --- it was because he wasn't being used. 

When a WR doesn't get open, can't run routes well, fails to make a catch, fumbles the ball, etc... that's clearly on him. All the WRs on this team have made some mistakes. But when a guy isn't targeted or is on the sideline, that's either by play design (coaching) or because the QB chose to target someone else. In reality, both are factors effecting production.

In the last 3 games, we haven't thrown a lot of passes offensively. If this keeps up, I don't expect a lot of production from players not named Smith or Goedert. Those appear to be Hurts' favorite targets. 

 

Howard actually produced in this league so he had a past before he even got here unlike JJAW, and here you go taking both sides. You claim not to rip the player (Wentz), but blame the player for your boy JJAW for not getting catches. On top of that you’re still defending this dude. You just praised him for being a blocker even though it was one of his blocks that cost the Eagles a touchdown this year. Again you were wrong about what you wrote about me just like you were wrong about JJAW. Putting JJAW and Howard in the same class is a joke. News Flash: Sirianni’s specialty is wide receivers and as a guy who understands them isn’t throwing him football, so maybe it’s not everyone else like you ASSume and maybe the player just isn’t good enough. 

On 11/15/2021 at 9:31 AM, Plache said:

If Howie's making the pick - does it really matter?

Well when he picked at 10 he got Devonta Smith. When he picked 21st he got Jalen Reagor… so yeah, I’d say how high the pick is makes a difference. 

9 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

Again you were wrong about what you wrote about me  

The thread title is:

Can the Eagles actually be the #7 Seed?

You replied:

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Let’s just keep it week to week. If the Eagles lose next week we will be back to fire all the coaches, fire Howie, replace the owner, and trade every draft pick for any quarterback in the world not named Hurts. 

Then you got all butt-hurt because I generalized my response, mocking people that think fan optimism has any effect on game outcome. I quoted your post because of the:

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Let’s just keep it week to week

... which is total coach/player cliche. Okay then, "let's keep it week to week" to make you happy. We just won, so we are obviously great. Clearly we are making the playoffs. 

Cowboys have a tougher schedule than us ahead of them. Dak has been reckless, diving for a touchdown and being hit by a LB in their last game. If the Eagles continue winning, there is a small chance that we can win the division. 🙂

2 hours ago, brkmsn said:

The thread title is:

Can the Eagles actually be the #7 Seed?

You replied:

Then you got all butt-hurt because I generalized my response, mocking people that think fan optimism has any effect on game outcome. I quoted your post because of the:

... which is total coach/player cliche. Okay then, "let's keep it week to week" to make you happy. We just won, so we are obviously great. Clearly we are making the playoffs. 

How about you spend some time posting for your self rather than ASSuming you understand what I’m posting about. Do you think they’re making the playoffs? You spent all this time poorly attempting to grade my response while not posting one for you self. Stick to worrying about you and your boy JJAW.

12 hours ago, nipples said:

Well when he picked at 10 he got Devonta Smith. When he picked 21st he got Jalen Reagor… so yeah, I’d say how high the pick is makes a difference. 

And when he picked 2nd he picked Carson Wentz.......I think his history of drafting has proven that he's not very good.  Sure - the higher the pick, chances are more likely that he'll get lucky......He's terrible.  

On 11/15/2021 at 10:40 PM, EazyEaglez said:

You ASSumed incorrectly, but rather...

 

22 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

 maybe it’s not everyone else like you ASSume... 

 

10 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

... rather than ASSuming...

2 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

 

 

So you don’t actually have an opinion other than JJAW is good, but doesn’t get a chance. 😂 Good to know you would rather grade other people posts than actually bring something to the table. News Flash: I think you’re ASsuming incorrectly that I’m butthurt about you acting like high school English teacher grading my posts. 😂🤣😂

5 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

So you don’t actually have an opinion other than JJAW is good, but doesn’t get a chance. 😂 Good to know you would rather grade other people posts than actually bring something to the table. News Flash: I think you’re ASsuming incorrectly that I’m butthurt about you acting like high school English teacher grading my posts. 😂🤣😂

No. Every time I post something that you don't like, YOU bring up JJAW, not me. 

 

Back to the topic ... "Let's just keep it week to week." 

On 11/15/2021 at 5:37 AM, Wallyhorse said:

Still think the biggest advantage the Eagles have is schedule aside, they have two bus rides to The Meadowlands and one to DC for road games.  They won't have to get on a plane again this season unless they make the postseason. 

But what if they get stuck in traffic? LOL

5 hours ago, brkmsn said:

No. Every time I post something that you don't like, YOU bring up JJAW, not me. 

 

Back to the topic ... "Let's just keep it week to week." 

Good to see you agree… and still lack any original thought. 

On 11/15/2021 at 1:54 PM, Hawkeye said:

Oh please.  Nonsense.  They HAVE high draft picks and lot of 'em.  What kind of Eagles fan doesn't root for them to make the playoffs?  

OK, I partly concede your point. I don't want the Eagles ever to lose, or tank. I can't possibly root against them. But I'm ambiguous about this. We all know they aren't very good, and the possibility of them making the playoffs and advancing is very slim. And, if they finish with a lousy record, their picks *will* be higher, and also their schedule next season will be (theoretically) easier based upon their finish in the division. So it may ultimately work out for the best.

14 hours ago, Big___Al said:

OK, I partly concede your point. I don't want the Eagles ever to lose, or tank. I can't possibly root against them. But I'm ambiguous about this. We all know they aren't very good, and the possibility of them making the playoffs and advancing is very slim. And, if they finish with a lousy record, their picks *will* be higher, and also their schedule next season will be (theoretically) easier based upon their finish in the division. So it may ultimately work out for the best.

That’s the beauty of this season bud. They have other teams picks. Feel free to root hard against those teams while rooting for the Eagles to win every game. Also even in a one and done playoff it could mean the team is truly buying into the head coach and could mean a growing development there. It’s likely that won’t end like the Chip Kelly madness where he made the playoffs and proceeded to implode the team over the next few years. 

1 hour ago, EazyEaglez said:

That’s the beauty of this season bud. They have other teams picks. Feel free to root hard against those team while rooting for the Eagles to win every game. Also even in a one and done playoff it could mean the team is truly buying into the head coach and could mean a growing development there. It’s likely that won’t end like the Chip Kelly madness where he made the playoffs and proceeded to implode the team over the next few years. 

Great point, EZ.  While stockpiling  draft picks is a good strategy for rebuilding teams, the Eagles already have multiple high picks and are close enough to contending that a playoff run could be a very good thing developmentally. The offense has played three strong games in a row; the play calling has improved, the run game has changed everything and Hurts is maturing week after week. The thrill and pressure of a playoff chase could really accelerate the overall growth of this young team and young coaching staff.  

2 minutes ago, Hawkeye said:

Great point, EZ.  While stockpiling  draft picks is a good strategy for rebuilding teams, the Eagles already have multiple high picks and are close enough to contending that a playoff run could be a very good thing developmentally. The offense has played three strong games in a row; the play calling has improved, the run game has changed everything and Hurts is maturing week after week. The thrill and pressure of a playoff chase could really accelerate the overall growth of this young team and young coaching staff.  

I agree. I think it was about to start in the Raiders game, but Sanders got injured and the gameplan completely fell apart and the defense really struggled to stop the pass. Still if this can continue to jell we could see these guys gain confidence in one another and build something great. I would much rather see them make a run for the playoffs this year, but I’m okay if they don’t make it.

Eh, this defense isn't going to allow them to make the playoffs.

On 11/18/2021 at 1:03 PM, MF POON said:

Eh, this defense isn't going to allow them to make the playoffs.

Their defense might not, but the lack of good quarterback play from the Jets, WTF, and Giants might. 

No

On 11/20/2021 at 12:44 PM, Godfather said:

No

Yeah you’re right, because if they keep this up they could be the 6th seed. 😂

23 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Yeah you’re right, because if they keep this up they could be the 6th seed. 😂

With their win today, the 6 seed is now definitely in play,  Eagles have what is by far the easiest remaining schedule and more importantly, their three remaining road games are bus rides (two to The Meadowlands, one to DC).  Eagles could easily run the table and be 10-6 going into the Cowboys game, one that may or may not matter to the Cowboys by then.  

1 minute ago, Wallyhorse said:

With their win today, the 6 seed is now definitely in play,  Eagles have what is by far the easiest remaining schedule and more importantly, their three remaining road games are bus rides (two to The Meadowlands, one to DC).  Eagles could easily run the table and be 10-6 going into the Cowboys game, one that may or may not matter to the Cowboys by then.  

I mean if Sirianni get this team into playoff contention he should be in Coach of the Year talks. Other coaches had way better teams. To turn this team from a 4 win team to a double digit win team would be outstanding.

On 11/17/2021 at 11:36 AM, Traveler Vic said:

But what if they get stuck in traffic? LOL

😂 😂 😂

Yeah, but they don't have to get on a plane unless they make the playoffs the rest of the year.

And given what has happened so far in KC with the Cowboys, a few more bad games and could the NFC East even be in play by then?