On 5/2/2020 at 9:38 AM, JohnB said:

I would say it's definitely an age thing, and in some cases we even inherited it. You're 28, I'm almost 48. I've seen a lot of bad, but I've seen a lot of good. That being said, we'd been starving for a sports championship for a long, long time. Have others suffered longer? Of course, but that isn't our concern.

Recently, however, I found a wiki page ranking sports cities (cities, not teams) by amount of championships won. I was surprised to see us ranked 6th overall with 15 sports championships as a city. Certainly. put it in perspective for me and made me feel better about our sports accomplishments.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._cities_by_number_of_professional_sports_championships

 

I didn't look at the link, but a couple championships in current "major" leagues were missed, probably the Philadelphia Warriors' NBA titles in 1947 and 1955.

The real problem with Philadelphia sports teams is almost half the titles were won by teams that no longer play in Philadelphia.  In addition to the Warriors' two championships, the Philadelphia Athletics won five World Series titles (1910, 1911, 1913, 1929, 1930) while based in Philadelphia*.  Ironically, both the Warriors and A's ended up in the San Francisco Bay Area (though the A's had an intermediate stop in Kansas City from 1955 to 1967).

*It's kind of sad the A's won more World Series (5) and league pennants (9 - they were also American League champions in 1902, 1905, 1914, and 1931) in 54 years in Philadelphia (1901-1954) than the Phillies have won World Series (2 - 1980, 2008) and league pennants (7 - 1915, 1950, 1983, 1993, and 2009 in addition to the two WS title seasons) in nearly 140 years in Philadelphia.  At least the Phillies have won both of their World Series and most of their NL pennants in my lifetime.

Why all the negativity? Because we are Philly fans. The end.

12 hours ago, wyote said:

There's so much less negativity than there was 15 years ago. 

Hey Wyote - remember a couple of years back when I stopped posting in 411 as a matter of protest over Malcolm Jenkins fist in the air stunt and you told me I was worse than North Korea?  I was going to start up again, but after that remark, I figured no way after what that jerk (you) posted.  See, I still took a lot of Philly with me after I left - and I have a long memory to boot!!

7 hours ago, CHIP72 said:

I didn't look at the link, but a couple championships in current "major" leagues were missed, probably the Philadelphia Warriors' NBA titles in 1947 and 1955.

The real problem with Philadelphia sports teams is almost half the titles were won by teams that no longer play in Philadelphia.  In addition to the Warriors' two championships, the Philadelphia Athletics won five World Series titles (1910, 1911, 1913, 1929, 1930) while based in Philadelphia*.  Ironically, both the Warriors and A's ended up in the San Francisco Bay Area (though the A's had an intermediate stop in Kansas City from 1955 to 1967).

*It's kind of sad the A's won more World Series (5) and league pennants (9 - they were also American League champions in 1902, 1905, 1914, and 1931) in 54 years in Philadelphia (1901-1954) than the Phillies have won World Series (2 - 1980, 2008) and league pennants (7 - 1915, 1950, 1983, 1993, and 2009 in addition to the two WS title seasons) in nearly 140 years in Philadelphia.  At least the Phillies have won both of their World Series and most of their NL pennants in my lifetime.

You can say that for other cities and teams too.  The Giants took all their championships with them to SF and the Mets have never been an adequate replacement.  Dodgers had a couple and they went out West too. How about Cleveland?  Paul Brown's teams won a few championships - as well as the Ravens.  The new Browns don't cut it.  Boston Braves took their championships to Milwaukee and then Atlanta.  What about the Baltimore Colts?

The Sixers were an adequate replacement for the Warriors.  The A's have never been replaced, adequate or otherwise.  Philly is not big enough to support two MLB teams.  In any event, the A's final 20 years in Philly were an unmitigated horror show.

Because it is the offseason and we need things to discuss. Going wow I'm satisfied with everything is a very boring very short conversation.

14 hours ago, CHIP72 said:

I didn't look at the link, but a couple championships in current "major" leagues were missed, probably the Philadelphia Warriors' NBA titles in 1947 and 1955.

The real problem with Philadelphia sports teams is almost half the titles were won by teams that no longer play in Philadelphia.  In addition to the Warriors' two championships, the Philadelphia Athletics won five World Series titles (1910, 1911, 1913, 1929, 1930) while based in Philadelphia*.  Ironically, both the Warriors and A's ended up in the San Francisco Bay Area (though the A's had an intermediate stop in Kansas City from 1955 to 1967).

*It's kind of sad the A's won more World Series (5) and league pennants (9 - they were also American League champions in 1902, 1905, 1914, and 1931) in 54 years in Philadelphia (1901-1954) than the Phillies have won World Series (2 - 1980, 2008) and league pennants (7 - 1915, 1950, 1983, 1993, and 2009 in addition to the two WS title seasons) in nearly 140 years in Philadelphia.  At least the Phillies have won both of their World Series and most of their NL pennants in my lifetime.

actually, based on the page I posted was designed, it's assigning the championships to the cities, not the teams, so the Warriors & A's titles are credited to Philadelphia for the titles they won while playing in Philadelphia. 

17 hours ago, Procus said:

Hey Wyote - remember a couple of years back when I stopped posting in 411 as a matter of protest over Malcolm Jenkins fist in the air stunt and you told me I was worse than North Korea?  I was going to start up again, but after that remark, I figured no way after what that jerk (you) posted.  See, I still took a lot of Philly with me after I left - and I have a long memory to boot!!

I didn't say you were worse than North Korea. I have no idea what I said, but it wasn't that. 

17 hours ago, Procus said:

Hey Wyote - remember a couple of years back when I stopped posting in 411 as a matter of protest over Malcolm Jenkins fist in the air stunt and you told me I was worse than North Korea?  I was going to start up again, but after that remark, I figured no way after what that jerk (you) posted.  See, I still took a lot of Philly with me after I left - and I have a long memory to boot!!

I remember I protested you protesting Jenkins protests by vowing to never eat black licorice again.

 

 

 

Luckily for me I can't stand licorice.

9 minutes ago, Boogyman said:

I remember I protested you protesting Jenkins protests by vowing to never eat black licorice again.

 

 

 

Luckily for me I can't stand licorice.

Neither can I . . . .

The negativity stems from being agonizingly close to greatness on multiple occasions and the front office always trying to "out smart" everyone with their drafting. It's amazing the Eagles have been so successful in the past 2 decades. 

Why all the negative threads about being negative?

Why the negativity? 

Because my friends are cowboy fans and I hate seeing their team get better and ours not. That Hurts pick is killing me. Potentially could have gotten a starter on defense. 

7 hours ago, kentwo said:

Why the negativity? 

Because my friends are cowboy fans and I hate seeing their team get better and ours not. That Hurts pick is killing me. Potentially could have gotten a starter on defense. 

Whilst I agree that the Cowboys, in my opinion, have had the better off season in terms of talent acquisition, they always do. They always draft better than us and they do have more talent that us. Hasn't yielded much success though...

8 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Whilst I agree that the Cowboys, in my opinion, have had the better off season in terms of talent acquisition, they always do. They always draft better than us and they do have more talent that us. Hasn't yielded much success though...

Let's hope it stays that way, but there is a tipping point where they become too good to beat. Lived through that in the early 90's and don't want a repeat. 

12 minutes ago, PoconoDon said:

Let's hope it stays that way, but there is a tipping point where they become too good to beat. Lived through that in the early 90's and don't want a repeat. 

Yeah I mean unfortunately that time is going to come again isn't it! They can't stay mediocre or underperforming forever. Lets hope we get another Lombardi or two before then!

Short answer: Yes it is an age thing. Assuming you became a fan at age 8 then your Eagles life started in 2000. There’s an awful lot of pain and disgusting football and horrific drafts you’ve missed my brother. 

15 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Yeah I mean unfortunately that time is going to come again isn't it! They can't stay mediocre or underperforming forever. Lets hope we get another Lombardi or two before then!

Yes they can...as far as I'm concerned.

4 hours ago, PoconoDon said:

Yes they can...as far as I'm concerned.

You will hear no complaints from me if they stay mediocre forever!

5 hours ago, PoconoDon said:

Let's hope it stays that way, but there is a tipping point where they become too good to beat. Lived through that in the early 90's and don't want a repeat. 

Don’t worry, they have the highest paid RB and second highest paid WR. Once they finally pay Dak, they won’t be able to afford to put a competent team around those three players. 

4 hours ago, nipples said:

Don’t worry, they have the highest paid RB and second highest paid WR. Once they finally pay Dak, they won’t be able to afford to put a competent team around those three players. 

I mean they are already kind of paying him aren't they... If he signs the tag.

11 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I mean they are already kind of paying him aren't they... If he signs the tag.

They can get away with that for a year, but a long term contract averaging $35M with what they are already paying Zeke and Cooper? Seems like they’ll be losing a lot of good talent at that point because they can’t afford to re-sign them. 

On 5/5/2020 at 12:03 PM, Madriver said:

Why all the negative threads about being negative?

Why the negativity about the negative threads about being negative?

18 hours ago, kentwo said:

Why the negativity? 

Because my friends are cowboy fans and I hate seeing their team get better and ours not. That Hurts pick is killing me. Potentially could have gotten a starter on defense. 

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