13 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

What do you call a politician who doesn't pander to large voting populations?

Unelected

3 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

our greatest domestic threat is the left wing

Red herring; it is far-right extremism. That's what our intelligence agencies universally say.

Just now, EaglesRocker97 said:

Red herring; it is far-right extremism. This 's what our intelligence agencies universally say.

you can keep your red herring if you like. it suits you

 

1 minute ago, ToastJenkins said:

you can keep your red herring if you like. it suits you

 

Take it up with the experts, as if you need an expert opinion to demonstrate the threat of far-right, neofascist terrorism in the wake of Jan. 6.

8 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

Take it up with the experts, as if you need an expert opinion to demonstrate the threat of far-right, neofascist terrorism in the wake of Jan. 6.

sure if you ignore all the antifa riots, etc

confirmation bias from all the orange man bad trauma

4 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

sure if you ignore all the antifa riots, etc

I'm not ignoring them, but they pale in comparison in terms of prevalence, frequency, and scale. The far-left also has nowhere near the level of structure and organizational reach as the far-right. Again, this is what our intelligence community says. It's their analysis, not mine. Are they, too, a wing of the government that is largely staffed by conservatives, simply beholden to confirmation bias?

The orange man is definitey bad, though. Very, very bad.

18 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

sure if you ignore all the antifa riots, etc

confirmation bias from all the orange man bad trauma

^From the brilliant mind that produced the hot take of "they weren't even being violent" on the evening of Jan 6th after watching it all unfold on live TV.

can always count on the wgb distortions to discredit the source 

Q: What does 1948, 2000 and 2008 have in common? 

A: The so called Palestinians were offered a State of their own 3 times and rejected it 3 times. 

9 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

can always count on the wgb distortions to discredit the source 

What did I distort? 

For reference...

On 1/6/2021 at 5:50 PM, ToastJenkins said:

Nah this is just comical. Have they been violent? Doesnt seem so. You act like they set fire to the white house. Is a single one armed? Doesnt appear so. Reminds me of the lefty morons taking over the capitol in wisconsin a few years back. It blew over. This will too. 

you guys pretend like this is sacred stuff. Our govt has been a joke for a good while. These morons should be cuffed and charged like i said. 

25 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

For reference...

 

Gotta love the Israelis ramping up for their very own genocide.

8 hours ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

That's what our intelligence agencies universally say.

These are the same entities on watch when passenger laden aircraft were flown into buildings?

25 minutes ago, lynched1 said:

These are the same entities on watch when passenger laden aircraft were flown into buildings?

 

Ah, yes, the 'ol "9/11 was an inside job!" Classic. The original "deep state."

1 minute ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

Ah, yes, the 'ol "9/11 was an inside job!" Classic. The original "deep state."

Never said it was. I didn't read that anywhere in my post. Where did you read that?

 

1 minute ago, lynched1 said:

Never said it was. I didn't read that anywhere in my post. Where did you read that?

 

Sorry, read that quickly as "watched," not "on watch."

Just now, EaglesRocker97 said:

Sorry, read that quickly as "watched," not "on watch."

No problem......some do struggle however. 😏

1 minute ago, lynched1 said:

No problem......some do struggle however. 😏

The thing with 9/11 is that the intelligence agencies warned the White House that Al Qaeda was attempting to plan attacks in the United States, even so much as specifically using planes to do so. There was a famous moment in the hearings with the Commission where Condolezza Rice basically said that they had no idea this would happen, then they brought up a report and asked her to recount the title, which was "Bin Laden Determined to Attack inside the United States."

It turns out that Jews have purchased legal title to the homes in question, during the Ottoman Empire. In 1948 they were evicted by Jordan. Now they want their property back. The Current Residents who are being displace do not hold legal title to the property. But the response is to launch rockets because the legal title holders want their property back. 

https://news.yahoo.com/israel-erupts-cutting-misinformation-surrounding-231435535.html

 

It is now 75 years since the Second World War ended and nearly 80 since the NSDAP period began. Yet year after year, justice is done when works of art seized from Jews who were killed, driven from their homes, or forced to sell their possessions at small fractions of their value are restored to their real owners — or to the descendants of those owners.

The principle is not controversial: Title to the property in question was not legally obtained, and just compensation was not paid. Governments and courts in the United States and Europe year after year decide these cases, giving title to the original owner.

This principle is simple, and widely acknowledged, but seems to be willfully ignored when it comes to the eviction cases that are now before Israel’s Supreme Court. These cases have been cited repeatedly as a key instigator for the violence right now in Jerusalem, which has quickly expanded beyond the holy city to include Hamas rockets raining down over Tel Aviv and elsewhere — and though they’ve mostly been intercepted, there have been severe injuries and deaths.

These cases involve the neighborhood known as Sheik Jarrah or Shimon Ha-Tzaddik in Jerusalem. Land in this neighborhood was purchased in 1874, in Ottoman-ruled Jerusalem, by groups of Jews. Jews lived there until Israel’s war of independence began in 1947. In December 1947, the neighborhood came under attack

Now, some of those Arab families have been living in the neighborhood for over 70 years — but without title to the land or apartments. Jordan, which ruled East Jerusalem from 1948 to 1967, did give out titles to many properties — but not these. The legal owners are now seeking to assert their rights to this property.

 

These Arab families jumped in when Jews were forcibly driven from their homes in 1948. When Israel returned in 1967, these families might have expected to be evicted — but were not. Those to whom Jordan had given titles found that Israel would respect those titles. Those who had no title found that Israel respected their leases, so long as they themselves abided by the terms of the leases.

What then happens when some of the leases are up, some of the tenants refuse to pay rent, or some of the properties are occupied not by tenants but by squatters? That is what’s before Israel’s Supreme Court, in a case involving several Palestinian families who could ultimately be evicted.

 

What a monster

On 5/11/2021 at 5:06 PM, mr_hunt said:

https://ottawacitizen.com/opinion/terry-glavin-by-using-human-shields-hamas-doubles-down-on-its-war-crimes/wcm/45cb8db1-2721-47e7-a99e-d67a151ac566

Of course the facts like those that are being mentioned in this article may very well confuse people like Mr. Sami Zayn. For him and for the people like him, the Palestinian victims are much more precious than ours. Most likely, they are trying at all costs to avoid those facts, because it doesn't fit their agenda very well. Those people are constantly adjusting the data to serve their agenda, while using on us false concepts as "genocide", "racism" and so on, without knowing even the basic facts about the conflict, and without making any kind of attempt to learn about it.  

So, they will always tell us how we are oppressing and killing innocent Palestinians. They will not be able to understand that those innocent Palestinians are intentionally firing their rockets from the places which are located close to their schools and hospitals,  in order to maximize victims on their own side, because they want people like  Mr. Sami Zayn to support them. They want their own civilians to be be killed, because every killed Palestinian child will draw a lot of sympathy from the people like  Mr. Sami Zayn. That's why we earn nothing from killing Palestinian civilians. If we wouldn't try to avoid causalities between them, while constantly bombing the terrorist sites - there would have been thousands of people killed.

On the contrary, the innocent Palestinians are firing their rockets totally blindly in order to hit as many our civilians as they can. Can Mr. Sami Zayn and people like him understand that? Or at least to make any kind of attempt?  I don't think so.

By the way, this have happened previous night because of the innocent Palestinians, just a couple of blocks from my house:
But then again, I am just an ordinary Israeli citizen, not a guy like Mr. Sami Zayn, that has the largest of all the souls in this world, so what do I know?

P.S. Oh, and who is Andrew Yang? He's a good guy!

14 minutes ago, ilross2003 said:

P.S. Oh, and who is Andrew Yang? He's a good guy!

He ran for president as a Democrat. I don't think he holds or held any other form of office. 

 

2 hours ago, ilross2003 said:

https://ottawacitizen.com/opinion/terry-glavin-by-using-human-shields-hamas-doubles-down-on-its-war-crimes/wcm/45cb8db1-2721-47e7-a99e-d67a151ac566

They will not be able to understand that those innocent Palestinians are intentionally firing their rockets from the places which are located close to their schools and hospitals,  in order to maximize victims on their own side, because they want people like  Mr. Sami Zayn to support them. They want their own civilians to be be killed, because every killed Palestinian child will draw a lot of sympathy from the people like  Mr. Sami Zayn. That's why we earn nothing from killing Palestinian civilians. If we wouldn't try to avoid causalities between them, while constantly bombing the terrorist sites - there would have been thousands of people killed.

 

This is a pretty bold statement requiring proof, and that article doesn't really offer it. It is an editorial at best, a propaganda piece at worst. Ultimately, this is well beyond the issue of a military confrontation. You have Israeli and Palestinian civilians literally beating each other in the streets. This is a race war that has been brewing for centuries now bubbling to the surface.

Is this statement below meant to be taken seriously?

 

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There is something like a genuine and proper moral equivalency that could be drawn from the proposition that the life of two-year-old Ahmad Mohammed Atallah al-Masri, one of six children killed when an Israeli missile landed near Beit Hanoun in Gaza this week, was no less precious than the life of 71-year-old Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu, still very much undead and coping with the worst eruption of Israeli-Palestinian violence in at least seven years.

 

 

The author is conveniently cherry-picking and ignoring reality in this statement:
 

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The thuggish conduct of Hamas-inspired rock throwers at the Old City’s Damascus Gate was easily matched by the provocations of ultra-nationalist Lehava ruffians who had cultivated the habit of showing up in Sheikh Jarrah shouting "Death to Arabs” and other lurid slogans. 

I'll paint the picture more accurately: Palestinians throw rocks, IDF fires rockets and missiles in return and topple entire Palestinian apartment buildings. Moral equivalency? Thuggery? Some people need to look in the mirror.

 

At the end of the day, they're all a bunch of religious nutjobs inspired to violence by their zeal for ancient fairy tales. That's the (im)moral equivalency.