Just now, The_Omega said:

 

I already have a pretty good idea what you look like when trying to figure out a simple idea. Didn't need the visual.

Just now, Boogyman said:

 

Just now, The_Omega said:

 

Still trying to figure it out, huh? Maybe wipe your lip off a bit.

1 hour ago, Boogyman said:

Poor guy. Hopefully your overactive saliva glands dry out soon.

11 hours ago, The_Omega said:

Poor guy. Hopefully your overactive saliva glands dry out soon.

Sick burn bro.

I see I didn't miss much. 

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12 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

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What a tool bag

13 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

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Hollywood makes an ish ton of money in mainland China, particularly in action movies. 

9 minutes ago, Bill said:

Hollywood makes an ish ton of money in mainland China, particularly in action movies. 

And in particular the Fast & Furious franchise. It's business. 

But yeah, let's have a meltdown over this. Because when looking for foreign policy guidance, I generally look to...WWE superstars.

18 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

And in particular the Fast & Furious franchise. It's business. 

But yeah, let's have a meltdown over this. Because when looking for foreign policy guidance, I generally look to...WWE superstars.

This.  Do we want actors/athletes to be activists or do we want them to shut up and act/play?  Because standing up for Taiwan is an activist decision, not a business one.

3 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

This.  Do we want actors/athletes to be activists or do we want them to shut up and act/play?  Because standing up for Taiwan is an activist decision, not a business one.

Referring to Taiwan as a country is an activist decision?

Just now, Dave Moss said:

Referring to Taiwan as a country is an activist decision?

As far as China is concerned, of course it is.  It's definitely not a smart business decision.

Just now, VanHammersly said:

As far as China is concerned, of course it is.  It's definitely not a smart business decision.

It’s just naivete.  I doubt John Cena know the first thing about Chinese history.

1 minute ago, Dave Moss said:

Referring to Taiwan as a country is an activist decision?

I mean...the US government doesn't recognize Taiwan as an independent nation (technically). But we do sell them arms. But we accept the Chinese position that there is only one China, and Taiwan is part of China. We have since 1979. 

But yeah, let's get made at John Cena...

Just now, Dave Moss said:

It’s just naivete.  I doubt John Cena know the first thing about Chinese history.

Okay, fair point, but apologizing to China was most certainly a business decision.  Had he held his ground and not apologized, like I'm sure a lot of people would prefer him to do, that would have been an activist decision.  

1 minute ago, VanHammersly said:

Okay, fair point, but apologizing to China was most certainly a business decision.  Had he held his ground and not apologized, like I'm sure a lot of people would prefer him to do, that would have been an activist decision.  

Well, I see this a lot differently than the Daryl Morey tweet fwiw.  That was a shot at China.

4 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

I mean...the US government doesn't recognize Taiwan as an independent nation (technically). But we do sell them arms. But we accept the Chinese position that there is only one China, and Taiwan is part of China. We have since 1979. 

But yeah, let's get made at John Cena...

The U.S. accepts that Taiwan is part of China, but threatens military action every time China makes an effort to take it back?  That doesn’t really make sense.

7 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

The U.S. accepts that Taiwan is part of China, but threatens military action every time China makes an effort to take it back?  That doesn’t really make sense.

Welcome to official US Foreign Policy. This is the dance we do. Our policy is "There is only one China, and Taiwan is part of China." But then we don't agree that China can violate Taiwanese sovereignty. The policy has been insane since 1979 in an effort to not anger either side.

Basically, the US Government and State Department haven't been able to solve this for over 40 years. 

But John Cena -- he's got this nailed cold.

3 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Basically, the US Government and State Department haven't been able to solve this for over 40 years. 

But John Cena -- he's got this nailed cold.

It’s been even longer than that.  Nixon met Mao in 1972

 

47 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

And in particular the Fast & Furious franchise. It's business. 

But yeah, let's have a meltdown over this. Because when looking for foreign policy guidance, I generally look to...WWE superstars.

"God, this is terrible. Could somebody please… find John Cena, get a hold of this MF'er so I can make sense of all this. Where is John? Help me John Cena."

Last post on this. The morons calling out...checks notes...16 time WWE champ John Cena for being a coward are just about the worst people on the planet. Same as those who called out the NBA for China. Newsflash -- the China/Taiwan relationship is one of the most delicate foreign policy conundrums in modern times. If the US were to grant full diplomatic recognition to Taiwan as an independent nation, we'd likely cause the immediate invasion of Taiwan by China. Which would force us to defend Taiwan. Which means...we would be at war with China. 

Now, if you're that big a supporter of self-determination, then petition your government to formally recognize Taiwan. But no administration, Republican of Democratic, has been that stupid for a reason. For now we get to have an independent Taiwan, trade with them, arm them and keep China happy because they save face. But yeah, let's go to war because orange man said China is bad...

SPOILER ALERT: The Trump administration didn't change US/Taiwan policy.  

3 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

It’s been even longer than that.  Nixon met Mao in 1972

 

We switched our official recognition from Taipei to Beijing in 1979, which is when the PRC took China's seat at the UN as well. Nixon started the groundwork in 1972, but official recognition of the PRC happened in 1979.

33 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Last post on this. The morons calling out...checks notes...16 time WWE champ John Cena for being a coward are just about the worst people on the planet. Same as those who called out the NBA for China. Newsflash -- the China/Taiwan relationship is one of the most delicate foreign policy conundrums in modern times. If the US were to grant full diplomatic recognition to Taiwan as an independent nation, we'd likely cause the immediate invasion of Taiwan by China. Which would force us to defend Taiwan. Which means...we would be at war with China. 

Now, if you're that big a supporter of self-determination, then petition your government to formally recognize Taiwan. But no administration, Republican of Democratic, has been that stupid for a reason. For now we get to have an independent Taiwan, trade with them, arm them and keep China happy because they save face. But yeah, let's go to war because orange man said China is bad...

SPOILER ALERT: The Trump administration didn't change US/Taiwan policy.  

All this is true. And John Cena is a tool bag.

1 hour ago, vikas83 said:

But yeah, let's have a meltdown over this. 

 

1 hour ago, vikas83 said:

Last post on this. The morons calling out...checks notes...16 time WWE champ John Cena for being a coward are just about the worst people on the planet.

Judas priest.  This is the worst hyperbole I have ever seen my life, perhaps anyone has seen in any of their lives.