January 31, 20223 yr 25 minutes ago, Toastrel said: You mean the business decisions made by artists? Is that the fascist attack you mean? Artists making a free choice? That is your idea of fascism? Did any of you stay awake during history classes? He's probably referring to the government officials who are pushing for Spotify to censor Rogan, Admiral Alzheimer's.
January 31, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, Kz! said: He's probably referring to the government officials who are pushing for Spotify to censor Rogan, Admiral Alzheimer's. So you think government officials trying to get people fired/cancelled is fascism?
January 31, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, VanHammersly said: So you think government officials trying to get people fired/cancelled is fascism? Windmill coming in hot to defend government officials calling for censorship!
January 31, 20223 yr Just now, Kz! said: Windmill coming in hot to defend government officials calling for censorship! I'm not defending it at all. Just checking to see if this is your position 3 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: So you think government officials trying to get people fired/cancelled is fascism?
January 31, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, VanHammersly said: I'm not defending it at all. Just checking to see if this is your position
January 31, 20223 yr Just now, Kz! said: So that's a yes to this question? 6 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: So you think government officials trying to get people fired/cancelled is fascism?
January 31, 20223 yr 12 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: So you think government officials trying to get people fired/cancelled is fascism? He must have really hated the Trump administration.
January 31, 20223 yr 8 minutes ago, Toastrel said: He must have really hated the Trump administration. Of course he won't answer that question. What a weird poosay.
January 31, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Of course he won't answer that question. What a weird poosay. You almost got to "but drumphf!" me, but then I didn't answer your question and no one else really cares. Take the L, windmill.
January 31, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Kz! said: You almost got to "but drumphf!" me, but then I didn't answer your question and no one else really cares. Take the L, windmill. You still won't answer a simple question 29 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: So you think government officials trying to get people fired/cancelled is fascism?
January 31, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: You still won't answer a simple question Him, Procus, Abracadabra, they do that a lot.
January 31, 20223 yr Van's face when he's got a "but drumph" post already drafted but no one cares enough to prompt him to post it. "Please just answer the question!"
January 31, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Kz! said: Van's face when he's got a "but drumph" post already drafted but no one cares enough to prompt him to post it. "Please just answer the question!" It was more of a copy and paste job than it was a fully drafted post. It's just such a strange thing to be afraid of. You're a very principled poster so I'm surprised you'd be hesitant to clarify your position here.
January 31, 20223 yr 7 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: It was more of a copy and paste job than it was a fully drafted post. It's just such a strange thing to be afraid of. You're a very principled poster so I'm surprised you'd be hesitant to clarify your position here. I'm sure it was fantastic, windmill.
January 31, 20223 yr Doesn't matter if it is Trump or Biden led. We should be very careful with regard to the government stepping in like this. Let the private companies decide themselves. If there is some real and clear need to regulate then do that (hopefully not).
January 31, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, Kz! said: I'm sure it was fantastic, windmill. It's a really bad nickname, so we're clear. I mean, it's better than when you were somehow convinced that I was a fatty, but it's still pretty bad, because it's based on a stupid drawing you post, not on anything that actually happened. But I've noticed how you've reached for nicknames for me over the years and kept striking out, so good luck!
January 31, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, VanHammersly said: Surely you don't think companies get the same reach out of a limited edition flavor as they do out of a woke controversy, do you? It's not even remotely comparable. We're a week out and people are still talking about it. There's no chance some kind of flavor change would get a mention anywhere longer than a few hours after an announcement. Controversy has legs. And the beauty of this campaign is that it's not even really controversial. It just plays into a narrative without putting any real teeth into it. They changed the shoes and pants of a cartoon M&M and included some vague statements about how the candy would treat each other. That's essentially nothing. But they knew it would push certain buttons and create right wing rants and memes and gain them far more traction than it deserved. And to your point about losing business, the real threat there is minimal and the added free advertising trumps any real chance of that happening. Because in the end, most people aren't particularly passionate about politics, but they like M&Ms because they're delicious. I know the whole concept of no such thing as bad press and all that. Yes of course it's generating media attention and "buzz." Does that equate to more sales? I cited Nike, where some protested and boycotted while others purposely bought more to support. That was a larger issue of racial justice and Kaepernick's kneeling at the anthem and all that. Does the media buzz about this m&m's thing equate to more sales? I found an article that said m&m smaller package sales were down 4.5% in 2021 from previous year but still #2 among brands, while the medium/sharing size bag sales were up 7.7% and leading the candy market. These companies virtue signal, many of them knowing they risk losing sales to potentially offending certain groups. It's candy cartoon characters, is anyone really clamoring for more equal representation of m&m cartoons?
January 31, 20223 yr I can't believe the US government trying to shut down Spotify this way. I mean. Wow.
January 31, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, Toty said: I always liked his music. especially Horse with no Name I would have thought it was Muskrat Love.
January 31, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, Toty said: I always liked his music. especially Horse with no Name That was the group America
January 31, 20223 yr 21 minutes ago, Perforator said: Does anyone listen to Neil Young anymore? His dozens of fans don't even know what Spotify is anyway.
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