If the accusations Brian Flores made against Dolphins owner Stephen Ross AND what has now come out with Hue Jackson hinting the Browns also wanted the same thing, could the NFL have no choice but to go to a draft lottery for the non-playoff teams the way the NBA did after the 1985 season following accusations the Houston Rockets tanked on purpose to get Hakeem Olajuwon in the 1984 draft (the same draft Michael Jordan was picked THIRD by the Bulls, BTW).

I think so, and I would do it like this:

All teams have a chance to move up into the top four spots.  The four worst records would only have a 15% chance of landing the top pick, while the best team not to make the playoffs has say a 0.25% chance of getting the top pick.  

You could have such a lottery as a hour-long prime time special the week of the Super Bowl on ABC and I suspect it would draw massive numbers. 

6 hours ago, Wallyhorse said:

If the accusations Brian Flores made against Dolphins owner Stephen Ross AND what has now come out with Hue Jackson hinting the Browns also wanted the same thing, could the NFL have no choice but to go to a draft lottery for the non-playoff teams the way the NBA did after the 1985 season following accusations the Houston Rockets tanked on purpose to get Hakeem Olajuwon in the 1984 draft (the same draft Michael Jordan was picked THIRD by the Bulls, BTW).

I think so, and I would do it like this:

All teams have a chance to move up into the top four spots.  The four worst records would only have a 15% chance of landing the top pick, while the best team not to make the playoffs has say a 0.25% chance of getting the top pick.  

You could have such a lottery as a hour-long prime time special the week of the Super Bowl on ABC and I suspect it would draw massive numbers. 

Why do you want to change the sport every three days?

For the 10th year in a row wally!! noooooooooooo!!! 

NBA fans hate the effing draft lottery why would the NFL fans like it? 

12 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

For the 10th year in a row wally!! noooooooooooo!!! 

NBA fans hate the effing draft lottery why would the NFL fans like it? 

It may be hated, but it serves its purpose (and the NHL also has a draft lottery, BTW):

The adjustments the NBA has made over time have been done to attempt to cut down on teams tanking to get that player that changes everything by making it where teams can move up into the top four.  If the NBA simply did it the way the NFL has all this time, you would have for example in the year the Sixers were REALLY bad perhaps go 5-77 or so awful to an extreme just to assure themselves of the #1 pick.  We just saw this with Jets fans wanting the Jets in 2020 to lose ALL of their games and go 0-16 just so they could get Trevor Lawrence.  

This is not about the "real" fans.  This is about the integrity of the sport, especially with the NFL having gambling partners now and gambling driving the sport's popularity along with Fantasy Football (especially Daily Fantasy).  The fact is, the NFL gambling partners are not going to be pleased if they find out teams are openly tanking, if it leads to such and other casinos facing class action lawsuits and the like over such.  This is why the NFL needs to have a draft lottery where the team with the worst record can fall from 1st to 4th or even 5th easily and have it where the four worst teams only have a 15% chance each of getting the #1 pick in the draft and a team that barely missed the playoffs getting a chance (albeit very slim) to move all the way up and get the #1 pick.  The casual fans would watch and I do think a draft lottery telecast would be a prime-time ratings bonanza. 

1 hour ago, Wallyhorse said:

It may be hated, but it serves its purpose (and the NHL also has a draft lottery, BTW):

The adjustments the NBA has made over time have been done to attempt to cut down on teams tanking to get that player that changes everything by making it where teams can move up into the top four.  If the NBA simply did it the way the NFL has all this time, you would have for example in the year the Sixers were REALLY bad perhaps go 5-77 or so awful to an extreme just to assure themselves of the #1 pick.  We just saw this with Jets fans wanting the Jets in 2020 to lose ALL of their games and go 0-16 just so they could get Trevor Lawrence.  

This is not about the "real" fans.  This is about the integrity of the sport, especially with the NFL having gambling partners now and gambling driving the sport's popularity along with Fantasy Football (especially Daily Fantasy).  The fact is, the NFL gambling partners are not going to be pleased if they find out teams are openly tanking, if it leads to such and other casinos facing class action lawsuits and the like over such.  This is why the NFL needs to have a draft lottery where the team with the worst record can fall from 1st to 4th or even 5th easily and have it where the four worst teams only have a 15% chance each of getting the #1 pick in the draft and a team that barely missed the playoffs getting a chance (albeit very slim) to move all the way up and get the #1 pick.  The casual fans would watch and I do think a draft lottery telecast would be a prime-time ratings bonanza. 

So why do you want to change the sport every three days?

I like the idea but every team would have an equal shot at the first pick. Totally take last years finish out of the equation.

Obviously no.

I wouldn't do that, but if you really want something to incentivize winning vs tanking you could have comp picks in round 3 for the top 4 teams that made the Championship games or something like that.

I think every 52nd Super Bowl winner should have the option of making all their picks first and then bowing out of the remainder of the draft to keep it fair. This would apply to the winner of Super Bowl 52, Super Bowl 104, Super Bowl 156, ect. 
 

That’s how I’d do it. 

1 hour ago, Perforator said:

I like the idea but every team would have an equal shot at the first pick. Totally take last years finish out of the equation.

The point of the draft order now is for bad teams to improve if you implement a lottery where every team has a shot at 1 do you really want to see a strong team become even stronger while crap teams remain crappy... That would make football less enjoyable even more than its already becoming 

4 hours ago, Wallyhorse said:

and the NHL also has a draft lottery, BTW):

Hockey blows who cares

It's ok, like 99% of your other thoughts it never happens. 

3 hours ago, Boogyman said:

So why do you want to ruin the sport every three days?

FYP

The difference between NBA and NFL is that in basketball one elite dude changes a franchise and the #1 pick in basketball has a much better track record than in football.

As if the nba lottery isn’t rigged 😂 

Hey idiots, stop hating on the guy for throwing some ideas out there. At least he mixes up the conversation every once in a while. But yea, this is a no for me dog.

56 minutes ago, DBW said:

As if the nba lottery isn’t rigged 😂 

Not at all. The cavs just got lucky three years in a row after lebron left. 

Bringing this back up as in light of the NBA draft lottery controversy (the Dallas Mavericks, who were in the play-in round this year got the #1 pick in the upcoming NBA Draft next month after the Mavs did the controversial Luka Doncic trade in February with many feeling the NBA rigged it to reward the Mavs for sending Doncic to the Lakers), it had been said the NBA Draft Lottery served its purpose to discourage teams from tanking to get the #1 pick and now Adam Schefter thinks the NFL should follow suit:

https://awfulannouncing.com/nfl/adam-schefter-draft-lottery-arch-manning.html

The NFL should do it. It can air on the network carrying the Super Bowl the Wednesday before the game at 10:00 PM ET/7:00 PM PT and be a ratings bonanza for the NFL.

On 2/3/2022 at 3:11 PM, Aspiritfall said:

The point of the draft order now is for bad teams to improve if you implement a lottery where every team has a shot at 1 do you really want to see a strong team become even stronger while crap teams remain crappy... That would make football less enjoyable even more than its already becoming 

This is about preventing teams from tanking on purpose. We saw that this past season with MANY Giants and then Patriots fans angry their team did not lose on purpose (Giants to the Colts, Pats to I forget who) so they could in the Giants case take Cam Ward with the first pick and in the case of the Pats be able to trade the pick to a team desperate to get Ward, who was the clear prize of this draft. That would stop for the most part with the lottery using the same format the NBA uses. In this case, the teams with the four worst records would still have the best chance of landing the #1 overall pick (unless a team has two lottery picks that have a higher percentage) with the team with the best record of those who fail to make the playoffs the worst chance of landing the first pick. In this case, the Titans, Browns, Giants, and Patriots all would have had an equal shot at getting the first pick while the Seahawks would have had the worst chance at picking first, . The Mavericks in this year's NBA Draft had a 1.8% chance of getting the first pick and got it.

Make this the Wednesday before the Super Bowl at 10:00 PM ET/7:00 PM PT on the network televising the game and it would be a MASSIVE ratings bonanza in prime time for the network that gets that in addition to the game.

Worst idea ever

I actually like the idea of a draft lottery not too dissimilar from the NBA's. Should be held publicly, however. Anything to make tanking less of an issue.

28 minutes ago, paco said:

It was so awesome watching the 3 worst teams not get any of the 3 best picks thus widening the chasm between the haves and have nots. And Dallas gets the top pick despite only having a 1.8% chance.

Yeah, lets implement that!

On 5/14/2025 at 8:11 PM, Wallyhorse said:

This is about preventing teams from tanking on purpose. We saw that this past season with MANY Giants and then Patriots fans angry their team did not lose on purpose (Giants to the Colts, Pats to I forget who) so they could in the Giants case take Cam Ward with the first pick and in the case of the Pats be able to trade the pick to a team desperate to get Ward, who was the clear prize of this draft. That would stop for the most part with the lottery using the same format the NBA uses. In this case, the teams with the four worst records would still have the best chance of landing the #1 overall pick (unless a team has two lottery picks that have a higher percentage) with the team with the best record of those who fail to make the playoffs the worst chance of landing the first pick. In this case, the Titans, Browns, Giants, and Patriots all would have had an equal shot at getting the first pick while the Seahawks would have had the worst chance at picking first, . The Mavericks in this year's NBA Draft had a 1.8% chance of getting the first pick and got it.

Make this the Wednesday before the Super Bowl at 10:00 PM ET/7:00 PM PT on the network televising the game and it would be a MASSIVE ratings bonanza in prime time for the network that gets that in addition to the game.

Nope don't want anything to do with the lottery system it's trash

6 hours ago, Aspiritfall said:

Nope don't want anything to do with the lottery system it's trash

The nba literally tanks on purpose sone teams as soon as the season begins and yet this guy thinks that NBA fans like the lottery ( we hate it) and don't tank because of it sixers came out and said they are tanking on purpose for several years and called it the process .

On 5/16/2025 at 5:54 AM, Bwestbrook36 said:

The nba literally tanks on purpose sone teams as soon as the season begins and yet this guy thinks that NBA fans like the lottery ( we hate it) and don't tank because of it sixers came out and said they are tanking on purpose for several years and called it the process .

The Sixers were why the draft lottery was modified to where the four worst records got an equal chance at the first pick to prevent a repeat of that.

And the Sixers did that out of necessity to get out from under the disastrous Andrew Bynum trade that on paper looked great until he was injured and never played a game for the Sixers. That trade was setting the Sixers back several years no matter what.

The lottery would be a ratings bonanza, especially if it were done the Wednesday before the Super Bowl in prime time (most likely 10:00 PM ET/7:00 PM PT) on the network televising the game. Many casual fans would tune in just to see the lottery.