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Not sure if I like the idea of giving up a high pick for a TC competitor with Hurts. Seems like a waste for someone that’s we’re not sure if he’s a sure winner 

No thanks.

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On 2/18/2022 at 10:44 PM, olsilverhair said:

garoppolo is 10xs better than hurts, dont want him, but to say he isnt any better is wrong

No he's not.  I have no idea what anybody sees in Jimmy G.  I'll eat crow if anybody gives the Niners a 2nd rder for him.  A draft pick AND a fat contract?  FFS just go get Foles/Bridgewater/Dalton/Taylor...for NO PICKS and 1/3 the $$$.  Dude is a fringe starter who already proved over an over again he can't stay healthy and he can't take a STACKED team to the promised land.  He's not even Kirk Cousins.  He's not even Tannehill because he can't stay on the field.

On 2/19/2022 at 10:43 AM, CheesesteakNBeer said:

49ers were in the championship due to multiple 1st round picks on defense.

And Deebo

6 hours ago, dawkins4prez said:

No he's not.  I have no idea what anybody sees in Jimmy G.  I'll eat crow if anybody gives the Niners a 2nd rder for him.  A draft pick AND a fat contract?  FFS just go get Foles/Bridgewater/Dalton/Taylor...for NO PICKS and 1/3 the $$$.  Dude is a fringe starter who already proved over an over again he can't stay healthy and he can't take a STACKED team to the promised land.  He's not even Kirk Cousins.  He's not even Tannehill because he can't stay on the field.

No team is giving up a 2nd rounder for Garapolo unless the market demands it. The 49ers have already moved on from him, so they lost all leverage. Just comes down to what the market will be with teams competing with one another.

What is with people wanting cheap options? You get what you pay for. None of those guys you mentioned have been to a SB outside of Foles. And most of them haven't won any playoff games or been to an AFC/NFC championship. Foles led a team that already had the #1 seed and did his part, but never in his career has he led a team for an entire season to a deep playoff or SB run. Tannehill also had all sorts of health issues until he went to the Titans. Of all those guys you listed none of them have the winning record or playoff record that Garapolo has. It is for sure a team game, but he was the QB on those teams for the 49ers.

Every team that goes deep into the playoffs and gets to a SB has a lot of talent. Otherwise they wouldn't be there. And we don't see teams with Rex Grossman or Trent Dilfer making it deep in the playoffs or to a SB any more. Not since the league has put a lot more of an emphasis on offense.

9 hours ago, Devaster said:

No team is giving up a 2nd rounder for Garapolo unless the market demands it. The 49ers have already moved on from him, so they lost all leverage. Just comes down to what the market will be with teams competing with one another.

What is with people wanting cheap options? You get what you pay for. None of those guys you mentioned have been to a SB outside of Foles. And most of them haven't won any playoff games or been to an AFC/NFC championship. Foles led a team that already had the #1 seed and did his part, but never in his career has he led a team for an entire season to a deep playoff or SB run. Tannehill also had all sorts of health issues until he went to the Titans. Of all those guys you listed none of them have the winning record or playoff record that Garapolo has. It is for sure a team game, but he was the QB on those teams for the 49ers.

Every team that goes deep into the playoffs and gets to a SB has a lot of talent. Otherwise they wouldn't be there. And we don't see teams with Rex Grossman or Trent Dilfer making it deep in the playoffs or to a SB any more. Not since the league has put a lot more of an emphasis on offense.

None of those guys have Jimmy G's record because none of those guys played in a situation anywhere near as sweet as what Jimmy has played with.  Jimmy g = Mark Sanchez and Vince Young.  Fringe starter/top end backup material in a great situation.  So is Tannehill.  Neither of those guys is actually better than Bridgewater, Taylor or Foles in a vacuum.

 

12 hours ago, nipples said:

And Deebo

And a punishing running game.  And a top 3-5 TE.   And, for my money, the best HC in the NFC.  Jimmy G is the sole reason they don't have 2 SB's with that team and that's why they will release him outright unless a really, really stupid team like Washington bails them out and ponies up.

No

On 2/21/2022 at 9:13 PM, Devaster said:

No team is giving up a 2nd rounder for Garapolo unless the market demands it. The 49ers have already moved on from him, so they lost all leverage. Just comes down to what the market will be with teams competing with one another.

What is with people wanting cheap options? You get what you pay for. None of those guys you mentioned have been to a SB outside of Foles. And most of them haven't won any playoff games or been to an AFC/NFC championship. Foles led a team that already had the #1 seed and did his part, but never in his career has he led a team for an entire season to a deep playoff or SB run. Tannehill also had all sorts of health issues until he went to the Titans. Of all those guys you listed none of them have the winning record or playoff record that Garapolo has. It is for sure a team game, but he was the QB on those teams for the 49ers.

Every team that goes deep into the playoffs and gets to a SB has a lot of talent. Otherwise they wouldn't be there. And we don't see teams with Rex Grossman or Trent Dilfer making it deep in the playoffs or to a SB any more. Not since the league has put a lot more of an emphasis on offense.

So odd then that nobody ever gave Kapernick a shot then isn't it?  🤨😉

Garappalo is better than he's often given credit for,  but he also has a tendency to pull a real brainfart play out of his locker at least once a game.

Full season of games best case he's basically a barely 4000 yard, 25 - 30TD guy,  better than what we have? Probably if he's healthy, but he's played one complete season of games his entire career and he's also had George Kittle and Deebo Samuel bailing him out with huge amounts of yards after the catch the last 3 years.

The 49ers know him best and they drafted Trey Lance, that tells you exactly what they think he's worth.

On 2/22/2022 at 2:13 AM, Devaster said:

No team is giving up a 2nd rounder for Garapolo unless the market demands it. The 49ers have already moved on from him, so they lost all leverage. Just comes down to what the market will be with teams competing with one another.

What is with people wanting cheap options? You get what you pay for. None of those guys you mentioned have been to a SB outside of Foles. And most of them haven't won any playoff games or been to an AFC/NFC championship. Foles led a team that already had the #1 seed and did his part, but never in his career has he led a team for an entire season to a deep playoff or SB run. Tannehill also had all sorts of health issues until he went to the Titans. Of all those guys you listed none of them have the winning record or playoff record that Garapolo has. It is for sure a team game, but he was the QB on those teams for the 49ers.

Every team that goes deep into the playoffs and gets to a SB has a lot of talent. Otherwise they wouldn't be there. And we don't see teams with Rex Grossman or Trent Dilfer making it deep in the playoffs or to a SB any more. Not since the league has put a lot more of an emphasis on offense.

Jared Goff literally went to the Superbowl 3 years ago, We beat Case Keenum in the 2017 Championship game

30 minutes ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

Jared Goff literally went to the Superbowl 3 years ago, We beat Case Keenum in the 2017 Championship game

Colin Kaeprnick v.s. Joe Flacco wasn't even 10 years ago.  Oh yeah, he may have forgotten about a guy called Nick Foles, who has just as many SB wins as Rodgers or Wilson.  And then there's Phillip Rivers who never even played in one.

1 hour ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

Jared Goff literally went to the Superbowl 3 years ago, We beat Case Keenum in the 2017 Championship game

 

41 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said:

Colin Kaeprnick v.s. Joe Flacco wasn't even 10 years ago.  Oh yeah, he may have forgotten about a guy called Nick Foles, who has just as many SB wins as Rodgers or Wilson.  And then there's Phillip Rivers who never even played in one.

And don’t forget the Broncos winning one recently with the corpse of Peyton Manning and Brock Osweiller.

1 hour ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

Garappalo is better than he's often given credit for,  but he also has a tendency to pull a real brainfart play out of his locker at least once a game.

Full season of games best case he's basically a barely 4000 yard, 25 - 30TD guy,  better than what we have? Probably if he's healthy, but he's played one complete season of games his entire career and he's also had George Kittle and Deebo Samuel bailing him out with huge amounts of yards after the catch the last 3 years.

The 49ers know him best and they drafted Trey Lance, that tells you exactly what they think he's worth.

Yeah exactly this. Jimmy G is probably a bit better than Hurts right now. But we don’t know if Hurts has peaked yet.

Even if the 49ers trade him for a fifth, he’s still taking up 25 million more cap space than Hurts. I’d take Hurts with Allen Robinson, Marcus Williams and a solid CB2 over Jimmy G with none of those guys.

Doesn’t make sense for the Eagles.

48 minutes ago, ManchesterEagle said:

Yeah exactly this. Jimmy G is probably a bit better than Hurts right now. But we don’t know if Hurts has peaked yet.

Even if the 49ers trade him for a fifth, he’s still taking up 25 million more cap space than Hurts. I’d take Hurts with Allen Robinson, Marcus Williams and a solid CB2 over Jimmy G with none of those guys.

Doesn’t make sense for the Eagles.

I actually believe that Crappopolo's stock is so low, he could end up dumped outright by the Niners and then crawl back to the Patriots for 1yr/$10m with incentives.  Again, the Commanders will offer more if they strike out on the bigger names.  But otherwise I see very few teams who will view him as a missing piece to the SB.

8 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said:

I actually believe that Crappopolo's stock is so low, he could end up dumped outright by the Niners and then crawl back to the Patriots for 1yr/$10m with incentives.  Again, the Commanders will offer more if they strike out on the bigger names.  But otherwise I see very few teams who will view him as a missing piece to the SB.

You may well be right regarding him being released. But I don’t think the Pats will be interested.

Commanders could be interested. As could Broncos, Saints and Steelers. Don’t see him being first choice for any of them though.

22 minutes ago, ManchesterEagle said:

You may well be right regarding him being released. But I don’t think the Pats will be interested.

Commanders could be interested. As could Broncos, Saints and Steelers. Don’t see him being first choice for any of them though.

He's a lateral move from Brdigewater, I just don't see the Broncos overhauling the franchise to do that.  Saints?  yeah maybe, but they don't have any cap space to buy anything.  Steelers MO isn't about bringing in overpriced 2nd rate journeyman as the face of their franchise, i honestly think they'd rather stick with home grown Rudolph.

 

As for Pats, Bellichick is probably getting antsy and I don't think Mac Jones slamming into the rookie wall last year has him in a good mood.  10m is probably exaggerating, much lesser Qb's have gotten paid and the weak draft class at Qb will help him, but still I think many will be surprised at how low he falls.

2 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said:

He's a lateral move from Brdigewater, I just don't see the Broncos overhauling the franchise to do that.  Saints?  yeah maybe, but they don't have any cap space to buy anything.  Steelers MO isn't about bringing in overpriced 2nd rate journeyman as the face of their franchise, i honestly think they'd rather stick with home grown Rudolph.

 

As for Pats, Bellichick is probably getting antsy and I don't think Mac Jones slamming into the rookie wall last year has him in a good mood.

Yeah I mean more if he’s released and they can get him in the 10 million range you suggest. 

If you add the Eagles to any trade speculation expect a large amount of clicks. See the Jalen Ramsey trade rumors for more examples. 

On 2/18/2022 at 11:46 PM, JohnB said:

honestly I'm surprised it's taken this long for his name to come up. I think he is a decent QB with potential, and think he's an upgrade over Hurts, however, I wouldn't give up anything better than a 3rd for him. 

I'd be more interested in Mitch Trubisky. Young, high draft pick I feel didn't get a fair shot in Chicago. 

18 minutes ago, XoqTionR said:

I'd be more interested in Mitch Trubisky. Young, high draft pick I feel didn't get a fair shot in Chicago. 

Coaching may have been an issue, but I don't feel that he ever deserved much of a shot to begin with.

17 hours ago, Devaster said:

Coaching may have been an issue, but I don't feel that he ever deserved much of a shot to begin with.

He was drafted way too early. I mean it was laughable that Chicago gave up what they did to move up a spot to take him. 

1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

He was drafted way too early. I mean it was laughable that Chicago gave up what they did to move up a spot to take him. 

Happens to a lot of QB's since it is the most important positions and there is a scarcity of really good QB's in the league.

There is significant interest in Jimmy G around the league.  May take a 2nd rounder to get it done

Hopefully the surgery that Garoppolo is having that requires 16 weeks of no throwing, will put to rest any speculation of an Eagles trade…

I can’t imagine any team wanting to trade for him knowing that he’s not going to even throw, let alone practice in earnest, until July…No thanks!

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