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On 5/17/2020 at 2:16 AM, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

And I think ultimately that's what will happen. Eventually those demands will be lowered and at that point Howie may strike. 

Unfortunately it seems like other teams are striking earlier than Howie does lately. 

16 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Unfortunately it seems like other teams are striking earlier than Howie does lately. 

That just says to me that Howie isn't panicking and isn't willing to overspend. 

2 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

That just says to me that Howie isn't panicking and isn't willing to overspend. 

I don’t know if I would call it panicking or not, but sometimes you have to step out there and make moves. A lot of the moves Howie has missed haven’t been so grossly over paid as it’s been made out. He’s just not pulling the trigger. 

26 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

I don’t know if I would call it panicking or not, but sometimes you have to step out there and make moves. A lot of the moves Howie has missed haven’t been so grossly over paid as it’s been made out. He’s just not pulling the trigger. 

Because he knows the cap situation for next year...

3 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Because he knows the cap situation for next year...

He’s been doing this for the past few seasons. I think trading for Tate might have been a little bit of a panic move too, but that’s my opinion. I think there were better fits that fit the Eagles needs better that were picked up earlier (And cheaper), but Roseman didn’t Pull the trigger. I don’t care how Howie wants to spin that move, but trading a 3rd round pick for a rental player that basically made one big play wasn’t a good move. 

On 5/23/2020 at 5:49 AM, EazyEaglez said:

He’s been doing this for the past few seasons. I think trading for Tate might have been a little bit of a panic move too, but that’s my opinion. I think there were better fits that fit the Eagles needs better that were picked up earlier (And cheaper), but Roseman didn’t Pull the trigger. I don’t care how Howie wants to spin that move, but trading a 3rd round pick for a rental player that basically made one big play wasn’t a good move. 

I’m probably in the minority here but I still have no issue with the Tate signing. We needed a reliable wideout. That one big play won us a playoff game. Also we recouped the 3rd round pick when they let him leave. I still feel to this day the right move should have been kicking Nelson to the curb and bring Tate back for a couple years

6 minutes ago, Milkman420 said:

I’m probably in the minority here but I still have no issue with the Tate signing. We needed a reliable wideout. That one big play won us a playoff game. Also we recouped the 3rd round pick when they let him leave. I still feel to this day the right move should have been kicking Nelson to the curb and bring Tate back for a couple years

Kicking Nelson to the curb and bringing back Tate would have been a better move. Tate at the time wasn’t a need though. The Eagles desperately needed outside receiver help and in particular some speed. Their offense struggles all season because of that and Howie failed to get them some help despite having options but passing on them. 

Also the Eagles got a comp pick back for Tate so TATE'rs gonna TATE and that's a lot of Tate'ing.

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9 hours ago, Milkman420 said:

I’m probably in the minority here but I still have no issue with the Tate signing. We needed a reliable wideout. That one big play won us a playoff game. Also we recouped the 3rd round pick when they let him leave. I still feel to this day the right move should have been kicking Nelson to the curb and bring Tate back for a couple years

Tate would be our WR 1 right now.

Just sayin’...

1 minute ago, Hawkeye said:

Tate would be our WR 1 right now.

Just sayin’...

Hard to argue that given the current situation at the position...

I wanted them to trade for Tate and was happy when they did...it wasn't his fault the Eagles had a boner for Agholor and totally misused him. Was quite bummed when they kept Agholor over him tbh. 

10 hours ago, Walkdawalk said:

I wanted them to trade for Tate and was happy when they did...it wasn't his fault the Eagles had a boner for Agholor and totally misused him. Was quite bummed when they kept Agholor over him tbh. 

Agreed I don’t know how anyone who watches football couldn’t see that Tate is the better option over nelson for essentially the same price

5 hours ago, Milkman420 said:

Agreed I don’t know how anyone who watches football couldn’t see that Tate is the better option over nelson for essentially the same price

Yeah I mean that $9M extra year they gave Agholor was a complete joke.

17 hours ago, Milkman420 said:

Agreed I don’t know how anyone who watches football couldn’t see that Tate is the better option over nelson for essentially the same price

It funny cause that off season I said sign Tate and get rid of Nelson and 99% of the people on the board said I was crazy, lol. They wanted youth over talent. Who is crazy now. :)

13 hours ago, DeathByEagle said:

It funny cause that off season I said sign Tate and get rid of Nelson and 99% of the people on the board said I was crazy, lol. They wanted youth over talent. Who is crazy now. 🙂

I mean I do think at the time it was a tougher call than looking back with hindsight. That said giving Agholor that 1 year extension was a mistake and I know I said that at the time. 

How's that Clowney offer going?

3 hours ago, greend said:

How's that Clowney offer going?

He was just spotted at the Philadelphia Airport!

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On 5/31/2020 at 2:40 AM, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Yeah I mean that $9M extra year they gave Agholor was a complete joke.

That's what happens sometimes with high draft picks.  They hate to admit when they get it wrong so they keep spending and hoping a guy suddenly gets better when it's just not going to happen.  That's my fear about Dillard this year. 

On 6/1/2020 at 2:31 PM, greend said:

How's that Clowney offer going?

By the time you read this Clowney will still be unemployed.

Clowney has tuned down offers of around $16M/year. At this point, let his arse sit out season and rot.

2 hours ago, gameshowfan91 said:

Clowney has tuned down offers of around $16M/year. At this point, let his arse sit out season and rot.

He's a complete idiot. Take a one year deal with a contender, take less money now but back yourself to earn a long term contract. But he can't do that because he's not done enough in his career to suggest that he can have a big year. 

On ‎6‎/‎1‎/‎2020 at 6:17 PM, Hawkeye said:

That's what happens sometimes with high draft picks.  They hate to admit when they get it wrong so they keep spending and hoping a guy suddenly gets better when it's just not going to happen.  That's my fear about Dillard this year. 

The major difference was Agholor was in the team option of his final contract year. He had plenty of game film to be judged. Howie et. al. chose unwisely. Especially now seeing what he got on the open market.

Dillard is in his 2nd year where he should take a big step forward in his development. With the virus shutting everything down, he will loose some valuable aspects of time with coaches and getting coached/development.

48 minutes ago, seengreen said:

He had plenty of game film to be judged. Howie et. al. chose unwisely. Especially now seeing what he got on the open market.

Yeah I mean he certainly had plenty of poor game film to be judged on yet they still gave him the one year add on. 

5 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Yeah I mean he certainly had plenty of poor game film to be judged on yet they still gave him the one year add on. 

Well to be fair after the super bowl year he seemed to be trending up and the following year he wasn't that far off from his super bowl year. Unfortunately he and the other 2 old guys all fell off a cliff last season. 

I am definitely someone who questions Clowney's work ethic, his passion for football at all, and what he would do to a healthy locker room with that type of mentality.  

However, for the people that are posting his "sacks and hurries" in comparison with Derek Barnett for justification, please stop.  Clowney can affect and destroy any given play, and his athleticism and explosiveness is 10x that of a Derek Barnett.  He moves at a nonhuman speed unilaterally to ruin well scripted plays whether they kick outside or up the middle.  He's a disruptive force when he wants to be (and I stress when he wants to be).   But for those that watched the Eagles/Seahawks playoff game (and I'm not talking about the late hit on Carson), he dominated that game from start to finish.  Last night I re-watched the first Seahawks/49ers matchup from last season, and he had the same motor that night.  He destroyed SF's OL, was in Jimmy G's face all night, and his athleticism just popped on screen.  

At this point, he's only going to sign a 1 year deal.  If the Eagles have the cap space, I trust/hope that the good culture would bring out the best in him week in and week out.  Since they wouldn't be committed long term, I say give it a shot.  

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