7 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

If pressures were looked at like they are now.... People would love Mamula

Mamula was the king of the hurry stat in his day. He would be the true poster boy for PFF if he played today. 

50 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

A First plus Barnett seems a little steep to me especially since I don’t think there is a lot of suitors out there in order to make a deal to go where Adams wishes to go. Even though they have to pay Barnett it’s nothing compared to them having to resign Adams at his demands. I don’t think they’re going to simply give him away either, but some of the compensation I have heard was like 2 second round picks. The same thing kind of applies with Yannick as well, but he might be more willing to get traded to a place where he can just get paid than Adams is. 

What would you grade Barnett as though?

Just now, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

What would you grade Barnett as though?

Barnett to me is a B player right now, but has the potential to improve. He could also fall off the map. I feel like if the Eagles were sold on him they would have locked him up long term by now. This season is make or break for him. 

Just now, EazyEaglez said:

Barnett to me is a B player right now, but has the potential to improve. He could also fall off the map. I feel like if the Eagles were sold on him they would have locked him up long term by now. This season is make or break for him. 

Perhaps they are now holding off due to the coronavirus issue and how that may impact? Perhaps his demands are too high?

11 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

Now Everson Griffen reports of wanting to be an Eagles has surfaced. Again most of these moves unless it’s Yannick or Adams don’t seem that big on their own. We will see how it goes.

The reports are based on Griffen responding positively to a post that said "he should be the top of the list for the Eagles and any other team”

Doesn’t say anything as was just promoting him.

Having said that, at the right price, Griffen makes a ton of sense for a year.

9 minutes ago, ManchesterEagle said:

The reports are based on Griffen responding positively to a post that said "he should be the top of the list for the Eagles and any other team”

Doesn’t say anything as was just promoting him.

Having said that, at the right price, Griffen makes a ton of sense for a year.

At the right price I agree, but what is that right price? I would suggest it should be pretty low. He's 33 after all.

1 hour ago, EazyEaglez said:

Barnett to me is a B player right now, but has the potential to improve. He could also fall off the map. I feel like if the Eagles were sold on him they would have locked him up long term by now. This season is make or break for him. 

 

1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Perhaps they are now holding off due to the coronavirus issue and how that may impact? Perhaps his demands are too high?

Barnett is a tricky one. He had a really promising and in some ways underrated season, but since then injuries and costly penalties have meant that the jury is still very much out.

I would only trade him this year if we got Ngakoue in return. Graham is getting up in age and none of the other DEs have shown that they can be more than rotational players yet.

I think the Eagles will have to let this season play out and see how he looks. As I understand it, we have him under team control for another 2 years, so seeing how he plays this season makes a world of sense.

15 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

At the right price I agree, but what is that right price? I would suggest it should be pretty low. He's 33 after all.

Yeah tricky. I think Griffen is probably looking for 1 year 12 million or 2 years and 20-22 million. Both too rich for the Eagles.

Would he go for a 1 year 6-8 million contract? Because that feels about right to me.

43 minutes ago, ManchesterEagle said:

Yeah tricky. I think Griffen is probably looking for 1 year 12 million or 2 years and 20-22 million. Both too rich for the Eagles.

Would he go for a 1 year 6-8 million contract? Because that feels about right to me.

Yeah that would be too rich for me. 6-8 million sounds ball park right. 

15 hours ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

Mamula wasn't 'bad', he had 31.5 sacks in 77 games (0.41/game, Trent Cole had 0.55/game). Not 'great' but not horrible. He just shouldn't have been the 7th overall pick in the draft... or even a 1st round pick, for that matter. 

 

so then clowney, drafted #1 overall, is overrated.

1 minute ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

so then clowney, drafted #1 overall, is overrated.

I think there's no doubt he's failed to live up to the hope when he was drafted. He was seen as a monster and opposite JJ was expected to dominate and that's not really happened. He's had flashes, he's had games and he's had wow moments but he's not really put it all together in one season yet. 

5 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I think there's no doubt he's failed to live up to the hope when he was drafted. He was seen as a monster and opposite JJ was expected to dominate and that's not really happened. He's had flashes, he's had games and he's had wow moments but he's not really put it all together in one season yet. 

that's pretty much where im at on him. so I'd pass on dumping money into him. our luck he'll get ejected for spearing a qb in the head in the playoffs and cost the eagles the game.

17 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I think there's no doubt he's failed to live up to the hope when he was drafted. He was seen as a monster and opposite JJ was expected to dominate and that's not really happened. He's had flashes, he's had games and he's had wow moments but he's not really put it all together in one season yet. 

 

13 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

that's pretty much where im at on him. so I'd pass on dumping money into him. our luck he'll get ejected for spearing a qb in the head in the playoffs and cost the eagles the game.

If Clowney would come on a 1 year prove it deal of around $10 million I would do it. But he’s already reportedly had offers of 15 million plus from contending teams and I just don’t think the Eagles would or should go that high.

6 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Perhaps they are now holding off due to the coronavirus issue and how that may impact? Perhaps his demands are too high?

Maybe I guess.

4 hours ago, ManchesterEagle said:

 

Barnett is a tricky one. He had a really promising and in some ways underrated season, but since then injuries and costly penalties have meant that the jury is still very much out.

I would only trade him this year if we got Ngakoue in return. Graham is getting up in age and none of the other DEs have shown that they can be more than rotational players yet.

I think the Eagles will have to let this season play out and see how he looks. As I understand it, we have him under team control for another 2 years, so seeing how he plays this season makes a world of sense.

I would trade him for Adams too, but that’s just me. 

4 hours ago, ManchesterEagle said:

The reports are based on Griffen responding positively to a post that said "he should be the top of the list for the Eagles and any other team”

Doesn’t say anything as was just promoting him.

Having said that, at the right price, Griffen makes a ton of sense for a year.

A lot of guys make a ton of sense, and Peters got a one year deal to come back. That better not be the only move!

4 hours ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

so then clowney, drafted #1 overall, is overrated.

I haven't really delved too deeply into his career stats, but I would think that if he was really 'worth' the #1 overall pick, he'd still be a Texan. 

5 minutes ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

I haven't really delved too deeply into his career stats, but I would think that if he was really 'worth' the #1 overall pick, he'd still be a Texan. 

I posted them earlier, very similar to mike mamula's career stats to this point, in two less games.

 

Clowney wants to get paid and he won't get that in Philly.

4 hours ago, Devaster said:

Clowney wants to get paid and he won't get that in Philly.

Eventually though he may have to accept taking a lower offer? I mean it's mid July and he's still not received the offer he wanted. His price is only going down. 

19 hours ago, ManchesterEagle said:

Yeah tricky. I think Griffen is probably looking for 1 year 12 million or 2 years and 20-22 million. Both too rich for the Eagles.

Would he go for a 1 year 6-8 million contract? Because that feels about right to me.

I think players can look for whatever they want, but if they want to play then then need to get realistic. Griffin is not getting a multi-year extension nor will he receive a contract for 12 mil. 

10 hours ago, Devaster said:

Clowney wants to get paid and he won't get that in Philly.

He won’t get that anywhere, because despite the fan and media fluffing, GMs can see that he’s just a slightly above average DE with work ethic issues and isn’t worth anywhere close to what he’s asking. I would argue he isn’t even top 10 in the league, yet asking to be the highest paid DE in the league. 

8 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Eventually though he may have to accept taking a lower offer? I mean it's mid July and he's still not received the offer he wanted. His price is only going down. 

He has high offers. He wants more money, but is going for a 1 year deal. Eventually a team will pay him. It won't be the Eagles.

Clowney also wants to skip training camp like last year.

1 hour ago, Devaster said:

He has high offers. He wants more money, but is going for a 1 year deal. Eventually a team will pay him. It won't be the Eagles.

Clowney also wants to skip training camp like last year.

That didn’t work out for him too well as he spent most of the season battling a groin injury. He didn’t have the season to command big money from anyone. He’s only fooling himself if he thinks any GM out there would pay him top dollar when he’s never proven he deserves it.