With everything so polarized along political lines recently I've been trying to think of a CVON topic that doesn't necessarily fit along a traditional republican vs democrat narrative. Was catching up on John Oliver tonight and I thought Sex Work might be a solid option. Should it be decriminalized?  Should it be regulated? Should it continued to be banned? How do we balance preventing sexual exploitation without limiting personal freedom of consenting adults? How do you address the concerns that increasing policing, regulation, and even well intentioned attempts to "save" sex workers from the industry end up forcing things underground into less safe environments?

I'll fully admit the sex trafficking angle scares the hell out of me, probably because of things I've seen through work. It's a complicated subject.  Let's see if CVON can solve it.

$10 says Trump or Biden is brought up before the end of page 1

No

Nope.

Do like Germany and make them take tickets to walk the streets so they have to pay taxes. 

6 minutes ago, paco said:

No

4 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

Nope.

Look talking about the plague and WW3 and Eagles free agency is bumming me out.  Let me have my thread about hookers and blow.

I'd legalize it and regulate it. 

Why not? Who am I to tell anyone else what they want to do their body. If someone wants to get paid to have sex, go for it. 

 

1 hour ago, wyote said:

I'd legalize it and regulate it. 

I've always said we should legalize the Ps:  pot and prostitution. 

For any fans of the TV show Firefly where hottie (when her hair was long) Morena Baccarin played a 'companion' and they held a lofty status in society, then you'd have an idea.  There were strict rules on how clients could treat them and they had to get a health checkup every year (though it should be every month in reality).  But it would cut down on the sex traffic trade and generate tax dollars.  It's not called the World's Oldest Profession for nothing.  Tax it and regulate it and you'll see crime and possibly drug related crime go down.  I know a bunch of cops and they don't want to be bothered with a single girl trying to make ends meet, but will go after a pimp who is running a group of girls where drugs and sex trafficking are involved.  So will the DA as that's how elections are won. 

 

9 minutes ago, Green_Guinness said:

I've always said we should legalize the Ps:  pot and prostitution. 

For any fans of the TV show Firefly where hottie (when her hair was long) Morena Baccarin played a 'companion' and they held a lofty status in society, then you'd have an idea.  There were strict rules on how clients could treat them and they had to get a health checkup every year (though it should be every month in reality).  But it would cut down on the sex traffic trade and generate tax dollars.  It's not called the World's Oldest Profession for nothing.  Tax it and regulate it and you'll see crime and possibly drug related crime go down.  I know a bunch of cops and they don't want to be bothered with a single girl trying to make ends meet, but will go after a pimp who is running a group of girls where drugs and sex trafficking are involved.  So will the DA as that's how elections are won. 

This is the stupidest Fing thing I've ever heard...Morena Baccarin is hot regardless hair length 

3 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

This is the stupidest Fing thing I've ever heard...Morena Baccarin is hot regardless hair length 

LOL.  I appreciate your opinion.  Mine is I happen to think women look loads better with longer hair than short.  So I should rephrase that to say she looks hotter with longer hair.

 

Yeah as someone who wasn’t into being an extrovert before working at a casino: hookers are everywhere. And they come from all walks of life. 
 

You’d be amazed how many real estate agents prostitute on the side. 

4 hours ago, Bill said:

Yeah as someone who wasn’t into being an extrovert before working at a casino: hookers are everywhere. And they come from all walks of life. 
 

You’d be amazed how many real estate agents prostitute on the side. 

No I’ve seen the videos. But I think it’s more so hookers who sell houses on the side. 

10 hours ago, DEagle7 said:

With everything so polarized along political lines recently I've been trying to think of a CVON topic that doesn't necessarily fit along a traditional republican vs democrat narrative. Was catching up on John Oliver tonight and I thought Sex Work might be a solid option. Should it be decriminalized?  Should it be regulated? Should it continued to be banned? How do we balance preventing sexual exploitation without limiting personal freedom of consenting adults? How do you address the concerns that increasing policing, regulation, and even well intentioned attempts to "save" sex workers from the industry end up forcing things underground into less safe environments?

I'll fully admit the sex trafficking angle scares the hell out of me, probably because of things I've seen through work. It's a complicated subject.  Let's see if CVON can solve it.

$10 says Trump or Biden is brought up before the end of page 1

so you're looking to change employment fields i see. yeah that can be scary i hear. 

Thanks Biden

Spoiler

 

It should 100% be legal for a few reasons:

1. People should be free to do as they please so long as it doesn't infringe on the rights of others. Someone selling sex as a consumer good has no impact on anyone other than the sex worker and the customer. What consenting adults agree to as a transaction is none of our business. 

2. It's going to happen regardless of whether we legalize it or not. So might as well regulate and tax it. Make sex workers take STD tests, and allow them to go to the police if there is an incident. 

3. If the concern is sex trafficking -- well, legalizing it will be the best way to solve this. Just like legalizing drugs helps to curb the black market, legalizing sex work will reduce the size of the black market as customers choose to go to legal proprietors. 

We need to stop trying to legislate morality in this country. Just like drugs, this should be legal and taxed. 

55 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

Thanks Biden

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You win the prize

This issue is probably one of the issues that most fits the powers of local government only.  There’s a lot of people that don’t want that in their neighborhood in any form whatsoever, regulated, in a basement, nothing…

The idea that it’s ‘exploitation’ is a myth.  Who is exploited?  The woman?  The man?  Men could be tempted to bankrupt themselves in a brothel. Is that not exploitation?  I say no.  Anyone voluntarily engaging is not being exploited, which is to say nothing about any other argument about prostitution.  

4 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

This issue is probably one of the issues that most fits the powers of local government only.  There’s a lot of people that don’t want that in their neighborhood in any form whatsoever, regulated, in a basement, nothing…

The idea that it’s ‘exploitation’ is a myth.  Who is exploited?  The woman?  The man?  Men could be tempted to bankrupt themselves in a brothel. Is that not exploitation?  I say no.  Anyone voluntarily engaging is not being exploited, which is to say nothing about any other argument about prostitution.  

Yeah, I kind of don't like the idea of my daughter being raised in a world where selling her body is a legitimized option.  

Just now, paco said:

Yeah, I kind of don't like the idea of my daughter being raised in a world where selling her body is a legitimized option.  

That’s fine for uppity American like you and me, but some people are poor and their next best option is even worse, and besides the idea that you can’t anywhere do what you want in the pursuit of happiness is offensive to the ideals and not worth trudging on just to give people a false sense of the purity of this world 

3 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

That’s fine for uppity American like you and me, but some people are poor and their next best option is even worse, and besides the idea that you can’t anywhere do what you want in the pursuit of happiness is offensive to the ideals and not worth trudging on just to give people a false sense of the purity of this world 

Something tells me legalizing this would not do a lot to fix the problem of being too poor.  

 

Also, am I the only person that struggled reading this? 

old data but idk how much things would've changed...

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The U.S. Government adopted a strong position against legalized prostitution in a December 2002 National Security Presidential Directive based on evidence that prostitution is inherently harmful and dehumanizing, and fuels trafficking in persons, a form of modern-day slavery.

Prostitution and related activities—including pimping and patronizing or maintaining brothels—fuel the growth of modern-day slavery by providing a façade behind which traffickers for sexual exploitation operate.

Where prostitution is legalized or tolerated, there is a greater demand for human trafficking victims and nearly always an increase in the number of women and children trafficked into commercial sex slavery.

Of the estimated 600,000 to 800,000 people trafficked across international borders annually, 80 percent of victims are female, and up to 50 percent are minors. Hundreds of thousands of these women and children are used in prostitution each year.

 

2 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

old data but idk how much things would've changed...

 

It hasn't changed. It would be very damaging socially.  

 

But let the incels\virgins on here take up the charge for more accessible wh***s

1 minute ago, paco said:

Something tells me legalizing this would not do a lot to fix the problem of being too poor.  

 

Also, am I the only person that struggled reading this? 

It’s not your job, my job, or the government’s job to fix being poor.  So if that was the goal when you people or whoever decided to make it illegal, I would say that’s enough of that