2 minutes ago, Random Reglar said:

No it doesn't mean that the Eagles take a WR in the first or second round every year when they sign a FA WR.   It means that they DON'T take a WR this year. 

Pascal is a 3 or 4 and he probably came cheap. They are going to take a WR early if they don't sign or trade for someone else.

10 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Oh boy. Howie went and got Sirianni one of his guys. Now it’s time for Howie to go rogue and not listen to anyone else. 

He can point to this move regarding the great collaboration they have at NovaCare... don't worry about him ignoring the draft board and reaching for a player. 

6 minutes ago, Random Reglar said:

No it doesn't mean that the Eagles take a WR in the first or second round every year when they sign a FA WR.   It means that they DON'T take a WR this year. 

If Howie thinks signing a WR who is best known for blocking and is a 3rd or 4th WR means they are "fine there" then they're in for trouble.  Relying on this guy and hoping Reagor improves is simply not enough.

Now it doesn't guarantee drafting a WR if the board falls a certain way.  If they end up with strong upgrades at defense, beefing up the O line for depth and adding a RB or TE to the mix that could be a good draft but the WR position group will still be weak.  Then perhaps next offseason a major upgrade is made at WR.

But this signing does not mean they are set at WR at all.

Solid player, solid move. 

Does not mean we are set at WR at all. (We basically have a borderline WR1 and a couple of WR3s.), but does add a solid veteran presence and big upgrade on JJAW as the big blocking WR.

If the Eagles get Mathieu and bring back Nelson, then that's solid work in free agency and we can attack the draft. 

Definitely expect a WR in the first couple of rounds now though if this is the only move.

As a depth WR, I like it. He's not great, but he's certainly better than Reagor, JJaw, Ward, etc.

35 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Lots of in between the line reading on these damn tweets man!

He'll be a Split End, or X.   Playing where JJAW played,   so that the Eagles best WR, Smith, doesn't have to play Split End, because JJAW sucks so much. 

I thought the narrative was that the Eagles wanted a vet in the WR to teach the young guys the nuances of being a pro on and off the field. Not sure a guy with his level of success in the NFL is going to command a ton of respect from the young guys. 

15 minutes ago, NOTW said:

If Howie thinks signing a WR who is best known for blocking and is a 3rd or 4th WR means they are "fine there" then they're in for trouble.  Relying on this guy and hoping Reagor improves is simply not enough.

Now it doesn't guarantee drafting a WR if the board falls a certain way.  If they end up with strong upgrades at defense, beefing up the O line for depth and adding a RB or TE to the mix that could be a good draft but the WR position group will still be weak.  Then perhaps next offseason a major upgrade is made at WR.

But this signing does not mean they are set at WR at all.

You I guess are one of those fans who think that "3rd or 4th WR" is a real thing.

Zach Pascal is an upgrade over JJAW.  

The Eagles just got better at WR at the key position of Split End, or X.   JJAW was so bad that they had their best WR, Smith,  playing the SE or X position instead of JJAW.  Now,  Smith doesn't have to deal with press man coverage because he won't be playing on the o line. 

A TE -  Tyree Jackson - could be playing where Zach Pascal is playing,  provided he's healthy.   I expect him to be good at some point.

2 minutes ago, NOTW said:

He can point to this move regarding the great collaboration they have at NovaCare... don't worry about him ignoring the draft board and reaching for a player. 

Why is howie seen as some valuable asset. Its starting to drive me up the ceiling.. The man cant build a competitive roster for the long haul to reach 1 or 2 SB's. Only construct "shot in the dark" "blind squirrel" teams who may overachieve by being average one and done come playoff time. Cant even call these teams a dark horse, it would imply a realistic chance of winning, when clearly they're outmatched. Fans have hope because we love the team but enough is enough. Other fans care equally about their team as well.. But aren't delusional. Every game we bring up IF this and that happens the Eagles can win. How about some of these ideas become reality. Then you wont need a 1000 breaks to go your way or play  near perfect games just to BARELY win. 

1 hour ago, NOTW said:

 

Glad I continued to scroll ... wasn't about to post the same. 

9 minutes ago, kentwo said:

I thought the narrative was that the Eagles wanted a vet in the WR to teach the young guys the nuances of being a pro on and off the field. Not sure a guy with his level of success in the NFL is going to command a ton of respect from the young guys. 

No, the Eagles needed a big body Split End who can replace JJAW and they accomplished that.

The Eagles already have their top 2 pass catchers in Smith and Goedert.   They just needed to make sure that WRs who suck aren't getting a lot of snaps.   JJAW sucked, and presumably Reagor won't get a lot of snaps and also suck.   I'm hopeful that Reagor either doesn't get a lot of snaps or doesn't suck. 

Just now, Random Reglar said:

No, the Eagles needed a big body Split End who can replace JJAW and they accomplished that.

The Eagles already have their top 2 pass catchers in Smith and Goedert.   They just needed to make sure that WRs who suck aren't getting a lot of snaps.   JJAW sucked, and presumably Reagor won't get a lot of snaps and also suck.   I'm hopeful that Reagor either doesn't get a lot of snaps or doesn't suck. 

And what this deal also means is they can if they want, and the board is right, draft a WR early too.

2 minutes ago, NITEF4LL said:

Why is howie seen as some valuable asset. Its starting to drive me up the ceiling.. The man cant build a competitive roster for the long haul to reach 1 or 2 SB's. Only construct "shot in the dark" "blind squirrel" teams who may overachieve by being average one and done come playoff time. Cant even call these teams a dark horse, it would imply a realistic chance of winning, when clearly they're outmatched. Fans have hope because we love the team but enough is enough. Other fans care equally about their team as well.. But aren't delusional. Every game we bring up IF this and that happens the Eagles can win. How about some of these ideas become reality. Then you wont need a 1000 breaks to go your way or play  near perfect games just to BARELY win. 

The Eagles won the Super Bowl with Howie.  Before that,  the Eagles won no Super Bowls.   Howie did better than all the GMs before him.

Just now, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

And what this deal also means is they can if they want, and the board is right, draft a WR early too.

Not expecting that at all but we’ll see. 

1 minute ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

And what this deal also means is they can if they want, and the board is right, draft a WR early too.

But that's true all the time.  If the Eagles wanted,  they could draft all WRs all the time and then there could be new terms like WR 17 and WR 23.   But that would be bad.

2 minutes ago, Ray75 said:

Not expecting that at all but we’ll see. 

You are probably right... But then hey that says a lot about this GM.

2 minutes ago, Random Reglar said:

But that's true all the time.  If the Eagles wanted,  they could draft all WRs all the time and then there could be new terms like WR 17 and WR 23.   But that would be bad.

Yeah true... But ultimately WR is still a need. Pascal helps a little, he's what a good #4 perhaps a steady #3. They still have a big need at the position. 

1 minute ago, Random Reglar said:

The Eagles won the Super Bowl with Howie.  Before that,  the Eagles won no Super Bowls.   Howie did better than all the GMs before him.

I knew that someone would say this. Blind squirrel scenario, Luck of the draw, whatever u prefer. Yes they did but he still sux. Idk if you understand how science and probability work but I'm not convinced it will happen again. Especially with the evidence he has provided over the years. 

Just now, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

You are probably right... But then hey that says a lot about this GM.

Not at all.

Fully expecting Howie to draft Cox’s heir, a pass rusher (probably has to trade up for one) and...yes, a safety and a LB in the first two rounds.

Probably trading down with one of those 3 first rounders that would make it less hard for him to use a high pick on a LB or S.

10 minutes ago, NITEF4LL said:

Why is howie seen as some valuable asset. Its starting to drive me up the ceiling.. The man cant build a competitive roster for the long haul to reach 1 or 2 SB's. Only construct "shot in the dark" "blind squirrel" teams who may overachieve by being average one and done come playoff time. Cant even call these teams a dark horse, it would imply a realistic chance of winning, when clearly they're outmatched. Fans have hope because we love the team but enough is enough. Other fans care equally about their team as well.. But aren't delusional. Every game we bring up IF this and that happens the Eagles can win. How about some of these ideas become reality. Then you wont need a 1000 breaks to go your way or play  near perfect games just to BARELY win. 

I don't see Howie getting much praise around here? Although I think we could do worse than Howie. Most of the time the devil you know is better than the devil you don't.

2 minutes ago, Ray75 said:

Not at all.

Fully expecting Howie to draft Cox’s heir, a pass rusher (probably has to trade up for one) and...yes, a safety and a LB in the first two rounds.

Probably trading down with one of those 3 first rounders that would make it less hard for him to use a high pick on a LB or S.

Giving his young QB who is in a critical year of assessment no help at all. 

I agree they need to go defense heavy but they can't overlook the offense either. 

Howie to Siri: hey, I spent some spare change and got you one of your guys.  Now go sit in a corner and shut up during the draft.

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Howie to Siri: hey, I spent some spare change and got you one of your guys.  Now go sit in a corner and shut up during the draft.

And then he went to talk to his HC...

Meh. Siri knows him well so the move might make sense. Underwhelming move tbh.

3 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

And then he went to talk to his HC...