March 22, 20223 yr 40 minutes ago, brkmsn said: Why are you so sure Watkins isn't a #2? He made a huge jump last year. The big transition Watkins needs to make in year 3 is for Hurts to get him the ball. https://www.si.com/nfl/eagles/news/quez-watkins-has-etched-a-role-in-eagles-future It's pretty short-sighted to look at film of Watkins last year (whether he was targeted or not) and flat out claim he's not a #2. Watkins is a guy that has talent and has also put in the work to get better and those two things are coming together with his play on the field. I don’t think anyone can be sure of anything with Watkins. I’d say that he’s not going to be an involved, productive WR with Hurts at qb. Hurts can’t throw a deep ball. He takes Watkins out of the game. He also doesn’t have the field vision or diversity of throwing ability to meaningfully involve more than his top 2 targets in the offense. That’s a valid excuse for Watkins, but a valid excuse also doesn’t make him a #2 wr worth building around. It just means I’d probably defer any more investment in the WR position until we get a real qb who throws the football. 34 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: We need size at the position, and Pascal seems to offer some. That’s a very 1980 way of looking at the wr position.
March 22, 20223 yr 7 minutes ago, eagle45 said: That’s a very 1980 way of looking at the wr position. That's a very 2022 way of thinking about the position that can ultimately make your receiving corps one-dimensional. You need both size and speed at the position. We have a decent amount of speed but are pretty lacking in the size department. Pascal projects as a nice RZ option.
March 22, 20223 yr It kind of reminds me of Greg Lewis. Pacal is not a superstar, not incredibly talented physically. But he will work hard, blocks well, might make some contested catches, and plays special teams. He seems smart to the game. A good locker room guy.
March 22, 20223 yr 9 hours ago, eagle45 said: I don’t think anyone can be sure of anything with Watkins. I’d say that he’s not going to be an involved, productive WR with Hurts at qb. Hurts can’t throw a deep ball. He takes Watkins out of the game. He also doesn’t have the field vision or diversity of throwing ability to meaningfully involve more than his top 2 targets in the offense. That’s a valid excuse for Watkins, but a valid excuse also doesn’t make him a #2 wr worth building around. It just means I’d probably defer any more investment in the WR position until we get a real qb who throws the football. I understand there's such a thing as coach-speak, but in this case, I think Sirianni is being honest. The film review both validates what he said and, unfortunately, what you said regarding Hurts (last year). Watkins is adapt at getting open and is a legitimate deep threat. You and I differ on whether or not Hurts can improve that part of his game. But for Watkins to really get noticed for the player he is developing into, he needs the QB to look his way. It's one thing when it happens to a receiver that struggles to create space, but Watkins excels at this. I don't feel we need to use a day 1 pick on a WR or break the bank on a vet from free agency or a trade. I would have liked to see us bring in a decent priced vet that can share experience with the younger guys. Pascal isn't really that guy, but he is a Sirianni guy. I think he'll help the team. Our WR success in 2022, though, will likely have more to do with Hurts than anything else. He needs to see things better and sooner and pull the trigger sooner. We have more than one guy routinely getting open.
March 23, 20223 yr 10 hours ago, toolg said: It kind of reminds me of Greg Lewis. Pacal is not a superstar, not incredibly talented physically. But he will work hard, blocks well, might make some contested catches, and plays special teams. He seems smart to the game. A good locker room guy. Yeah - and can add some veteran insight to the younger WRs.
March 23, 20223 yr He's the Jalen Hurts of wide receivers. Hurts can't throw and he can't get open and catch...............bUT hE cAn BLock!!!!!! Perfect fit.
March 24, 20223 yr On 3/22/2022 at 12:27 PM, Mike030270 said: Do we know the contract numbers yet? Details of the contract have been revealed, with Pascal’s deal being worth $1.5M guaranteed: One year, $1.5M guaranteed Signing bonus: $465K Base salary: $1.035K Up to another $1M in incentives
March 24, 20223 yr Approved. Solid player. If Ray Diddy likes him, he must have some talent that can add value to the team.
March 24, 20223 yr 17 hours ago, GroundAttack said: Details of the contract have been revealed, with Pascal’s deal being worth $1.5M guaranteed: One year, $1.5M guaranteed Signing bonus: $465K Base salary: $1.035K Up to another $1M in incentives So that’s a minimum salary deal, with a $465k bonus, plus some incentives. It would be hard to sign a 27 year old free agent who started the previous three seasons for less than that.
April 2, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, EagleMatt said: We had one ex colt that had a good year here. Hopefully Pascal can be another one. I'm drawing blanks here... Who are you talking about?
April 3, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Bwestbrook36 said: I'm drawing blanks here... Who are you talking about? Patrick Robinson
April 3, 20223 yr 6 minutes ago, EagleMatt said: Patrick Robinson Ohhhh, I always think of him as a NO Saint
April 3, 20223 yr 10 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said: Ohhhh, I always think of him as a NO Saint I remember him as the guy not many on tate were impressed with the acquisition. Dubbed a journeyman. Had a horrible pre season. Was probably our best secondary player outside of Jenkins.
April 3, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, EagleMatt said: I remember him as the guy not many on tate were impressed with the acquisition. Dubbed a journeyman. Had a horrible pre season. Was probably our best secondary player outside of Jenkins. Most players we picked up were not thought well of lol. They wanted Blount cut too
April 3, 20223 yr 450 yds 2 TDs, 3rd most receptions on the team after Smith and Goedert. 4th in yards after Smith, Goedert, Watkins. Write it down in pen.
April 11, 20223 yr On 4/3/2022 at 10:05 AM, eagle45 said: 450 yds 2 TDs, 3rd most receptions on the team after Smith and Goedert. 4th in yards after Smith, Goedert, Watkins. Write it down in pen. Seems like a solid prediction.
April 11, 20223 yr On 4/2/2022 at 7:17 PM, Bwestbrook36 said: I'm drawing blanks here... Who are you talking about? I also forgot he spent a year in SD and then a year in Indy after his first stint in NO before coming here.
April 12, 20223 yr 40 minutes ago, time2rock said: I also forgot he spent a year in SD and then a year in Indy after his first stint in NO before coming here. Oh Patrick Robinson?
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