March 29, 20223 yr Contract details https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/full-details-derek-barnetts-new-contract-eagles Quote Barnett’s two-year deal with the Eagles is worth up to $14 million. But you can also look at it as a one-year deal worth $5.5 million. The Eagles will have some flexibility to move on after 2022 if it doesn’t work out. Even if Barnett plays through this two-year deal, his average per year comes out to $7 million, which ranks 37th in the NFL among edge players, according to OverTheCap. The Eagles are bringing Barnett back as a rotational player for their defense and they’re paying him like that. "I think going into free agency, he probably thought a little differently about where he would be,” Eagles GM Howie Roseman said at the NFL owners meetings this week. "And for us, understanding that’s where he was thinking. It got to a point where it’s a huge priority to us to have a wave defensive line that’s really good. We know we can count on him. Obviously, it’s a position we want to continue to add to. We don’t want to make a strength a weakness.” The Eagles also used voidable years to spread out the cap hits. Here are some of the details of his contract by season: 2022 Salary: $4.5 million (Base salary: $1.035m; advance $3.465m) Per-game roster bonuses: $1 million Cap hit: $2,669,176 2023 Salary: $7.5 million (Base salary: $1.08m; option bonus $6.42m) Per-game roster bonuses: $1 million Cap hit: $4,057,000 The Eagles used a salary advance of $3.465 million that prorates over the course of five seasons and would use an option bonus of $6.42 million in 2023 that would also prorate for cap purposes. That’s why Barnett’s cap hits are so low the next two seasons. Either way, Barnett’s first year of the contract in 2022 is worth $4.5 million in base salary with another $1 million in per-game roster bonuses (so up to $5.5 million). His second season is worth $7.5 million in base salary with another $1 million in per-game roster bonus (so up to $8.5 million). If Barnett plays through the length of this contract, it will still leave just over $7.2 million in dead cap for the 2024 season.
March 29, 20223 yr 21 minutes ago, paco said: 7.2 million in dead cap for him after he's gone? So? We could pay him the money right away or borrow from the future. Except 7.2M in 2024 is a lower % of cap than it is now.
March 29, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, Infam said: So? We could pay him the money right away or borrow from the future. Except 7.2M in 2024 is a lower % of cap than it is now. Yes. I’m well aware at how cap figures work. The question is, is it wise to spend that money in this player?
March 29, 20223 yr 11 minutes ago, paco said: Yes. I’m well aware at how cap figures work. The question is, is it wise to spend that money in this player? My thinking too when I saw the breakdown of the contract. Maybe Howie should have waited a little longer and then paid him $7.2M less in total such that they avoided ANY void years/money after the 2 years is up. Not like any one was banging his door down to sign him.
March 29, 20223 yr 28 minutes ago, paco said: Yes. I’m well aware at how cap figures work. The question is, is it wise to spend that money in this player? Nope, Mr. Penalty should be gone and they should be drafting a top DE prospect this year to replace him. And then draft another DE with one of those additional 5th round picks they have to bring in some depth. Or go bargain shopping in free agency after the draft to add depth. You have Graham and Sweat as veterans with a perfect balance, don't need Barnett the disappointment.
March 29, 20223 yr The 1st year numbers are a little more than I think he deserves but it's essentially a one year "prove it or lose it" contract which I can live with.
March 30, 20223 yr It's a one year 5.5 million dollar deal. If he sucks he's gone, if he's good they have the option to bring him back for 7.5 million. That's basically what it is.
March 30, 20223 yr Based on all the hype the podcast people were putting out there due to the lack of information about the contract, the amount was a bit more than I expected. I was hoping for closer to 2-3 million a year. He's not a terrible player and does add depth, but not exciting mostly due to the familiarity with the fan base.
April 1, 20223 yr On 3/29/2022 at 10:21 PM, T-1000 said: It's a one year 5.5 million dollar deal. If he sucks he's gone, if he's good they have the option to bring him back for 7.5 million. That's basically what it is. Why take a 7.5 million dollar gamble on a guy who currently has more career penalties than he has career sacks?
April 1, 20223 yr On 3/29/2022 at 12:58 PM, paco said: The question is, is it wise to spend that money in this player? IMO, yes. You are getting a legit starting quality solid player. Fans are down on him because he's not a "star." A star would be averaging nearly $18M per season in 2022.
April 1, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, brkmsn said: IMO, yes. You are getting a legit starting quality solid player. Fans are down on him because he's not a "star." A star would be averaging nearly $18M per season in 2022. I don't think he is a starting quality solid player though. I think he's below average. You can start him, you can put him out there and you know he's going to give you a little something. But he's also going to hurt you more often than he's going to positively impact the game.
April 1, 20223 yr 57 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: I don't think he is a starting quality solid player though. I think he's below average. You can start him, you can put him out there and you know he's going to give you a little something. But he's also going to hurt you more often than he's going to positively impact the game. The most important play Barnett has had was the fumble recovery in the Super Bowl. Funny thing is I can’t remember another play to that magnitude ever in his career. The irony is that his best career play happened because he failed to get any pass rush and when Graham swatted the ball it came right to him. It’s not like he did much other than happen to be in the right place, because he couldn’t effectively do his job. 😂
April 1, 20223 yr 5 hours ago, brkmsn said: IMO, yes. You are getting a legit starting quality solid player. Fans are down on him because he's not a "star." A star would be averaging nearly $18M per season in 2022. He isn't a starting quality player though, he played the most snaps on the roster at DE last year and put up 2 sacks, a starting DE should get more sacks than that just from QB's running into them while trying to get away from other defenders. He went to the market and the market politely declined, and we make him the 27th best paid DE in the league, so he's a top half DE in this league? He's making $2million more than Sweat who completely outplayed him last year, Barnett is basically Vinny Curry at this point, we paid Vinny $2million last time he came back.
April 1, 20223 yr 5 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: I don't think he is a starting quality solid player though. I think he's below average. You can start him, you can put him out there and you know he's going to give you a little something. But he's also going to hurt you more often than he's going to positively impact the game. 2 hours ago, Cochis_Calhoun said: He isn't a starting quality player though, he played the most snaps on the roster at DE last year and put up 2 sacks, a starting DE should get more sacks than that just from QB's running into them while trying to get away from other defenders. He went to the market and the market politely declined, and we make him the 27th best paid DE in the league, so he's a top half DE in this league? He's making $2million more than Sweat who completely outplayed him last year, Barnett is basically Vinny Curry at this point, we paid Vinny $2million last time he came back. Obviously we disagree on what he is. I think some of you don't appreciate run defense at all. Last year wasn't his best rushing the passer, but is capable of having more impact there if that's what his assignment is in the defensive scheme.
April 1, 20223 yr 5 hours ago, EazyEaglez said: The most important play Barnett has had was the fumble recovery in the Super Bowl. Funny thing is I can’t remember another play to that magnitude ever in his career. The irony is that his best career play happened because he failed to get any pass rush and when Graham swatted the ball it came right to him. It’s not like he did much other than happen to be in the right place, because he couldn’t effectively do his job. 😂 49 minutes ago, brkmsn said: Obviously we disagree on what he is. I think some of you don't appreciate run defense at all. Last year wasn't his best rushing the passer, but is capable of having more impact there if that's what his assignment is in the defensive scheme. Barnett had a huge strip sack of Keenum in the Championship game at a point where the game was in the balance. I agree with brkmsn. He’s at least a solid rotational DE. His sack totals are underwhelming, but he does get pressure and is solid against the run. Contract is a little more than I hoped, but still not bad value and easy enough to move on after one year.
April 1, 20223 yr One of the reasons I don't like it is that it's classic Howie. This draft class has a lot of talent at DE. Howie could solidify the future of DE for years by taking one high, and one with one of the extra 5th round picks he has for depth. You have Graham and Sweat as veterans to balance out the experience level, and a high DE pick could be a day 1 starter or at least be starter in 2023 when Graham is either retired, cut or relegated to a depth role. Keeping Barnett even as rotational is the type of thing Howie does and then doesn't draft a DE. Graham doesn't have much time left and coming off injury can't expect too much. This is the year to draft Defensive Ends to build the young roster.
April 1, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, ManchesterEagle said: Barnett had a huge strip sack of Keenum in the Championship game at a point where the game was in the balance. I agree with brkmsn. He’s at least a solid rotational DE. His sack totals are underwhelming, but he does get pressure and is solid against the run. Contract is a little more than I hoped, but still not bad value and easy enough to move on after one year. If he's rotational (he is) then pay him a rotation level contract, when Vinny Curry came back from his first tilt on another team we gave him $2million, Barnett has a higher base salary than Sweat but is behind him on the depth chart. Paying him a salary that is the 27th in terms of value is nonsense. Barnett's level of production can be replaced at cheaper than $5.5million. Giving Barnett another deal rather than drafting a DE is like Howie to the power of infinity, he's created another chunk of dead cap for a guy who should have been gone for free at the end of last season (but Howie split his last year into to shift cap) to come back and sit behind Sweat, Graham and Reddick. I mean let that sink in for a second, Barnett was a walking yellow flag with 2 sacks to his name, playing for his next contract, he wasn't someone sat on a comfy guaranteed contract, two sacks was him playing his ass off trying to put himself in the shop window. Brksmn thinks every guy on the roster is worth one more try, that's what Brksmn does
April 1, 20223 yr Should have just moved on. He doesn’t produce enough positive plays to offset the bonehead mistakes
April 1, 20223 yr 8 hours ago, NOTW said: One of the reasons I don't like it is that it's classic Howie. This draft class has a lot of talent at DE. Howie could solidify the future of DE for years by taking one high, and one with one of the extra 5th round picks he has for depth. You have Graham and Sweat as veterans to balance out the experience level, and a high DE pick could be a day 1 starter or at least be starter in 2023 when Graham is either retired, cut or relegated to a depth role. Keeping Barnett even as rotational is the type of thing Howie does and then doesn't draft a DE. Graham doesn't have much time left and coming off injury can't expect too much. This is the year to draft Defensive Ends to build the young roster. I don't see how this affects us drafting a DE or two. We may even get a DE and a DT in the first round. Even before this signing, though, our biggest needs on defense are a CB2 and another starting Safety.
April 2, 20223 yr 11 hours ago, ManchesterEagle said: Barnett had a huge strip sack of Keenum in the Championship game at a point where the game was in the balance. I agree with brkmsn. He’s at least a solid rotational DE. His sack totals are underwhelming, but he does get pressure and is solid against the run. Contract is a little more than I hoped, but still not bad value and easy enough to move on after one year. You could get Milton Willams to do what Barnett gave the Eagles last season and some. With far less opportunities and being forced to move all over the line Williams gave the Eagles basically the same that Barnett gave them for far less money. This contract is a joke and I don’t agree with brkmsn and his history of gushing over crappy players for years.
April 2, 20223 yr On 3/29/2022 at 12:10 PM, NOTW said: Wasn’t Sirianni the one who was caught mouthing "it’s always him” in regards to yet another Barnett penalty? 😂🤣😂
April 2, 20223 yr 22 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said: Wasn’t Sirianni the one who was caught mouthing "it’s always him” in regards to yet another Barnett penalty? 😂🤣😂 On 3/24/2022 at 11:55 PM, NOTW said:
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