March 28, 20223 yr It could be the result of a deadly drug cocktail. We won't know full toxicology results for a month. It could be his body just shut down; he was living life really hard for a while, years ago. Maybe it all finally caught up. I don't know.
March 28, 20223 yr I know everyone is focused on what's in his system but I think another contributing factor is the shear exertion from playing these shows over the years. Over exertion is also a health risk.
March 28, 20223 yr Author 6 minutes ago, DiPros said: I know everyone is focused on what's in his system but I think another contributing factor is the shear exertion from playing these shows over the years. Over exertion is also a health risk. That is like saying running too much is bad for your heart. If anything it's great cardio
March 28, 20223 yr 14 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said: That is like saying running too much is bad for your heart. If anything it's great cardio Too much running is bad for your heart. Go look it up, I'm not doing it for you. Playing drums is definite over exertion. Doing it over and over and over again, along with taking drugs will kill you. Look at all the athletes that die early deaths. Were they all drug addicts? No, they over exerted themselves to the point of doing damage. That's all I'm saying.
March 28, 20223 yr There’s always the possibility of a naturally occurring underlying condition too of course. I’ve little doubt that hard living probably contributed to it, but that doesn’t automatically mean it caused it.
March 28, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, The_Omega said: There’s always the possibility of a naturally occurring underlying condition too of course. I’ve little doubt that hard living probably contributed to it, but that doesn’t automatically mean it caused it. True. His spirited personality seemed so genuine that he didn't strike me with the "addict" traits. That's why I just wish to point out although the life style choices he made weren't stellar, there most likely was another contributing factor.
March 28, 20223 yr Author 21 minutes ago, DiPros said: Too much running is bad for your heart. Go look it up, I'm not doing it for you. Playing drums is definite over exertion. Doing it over and over and over again, along with taking drugs will kill you. Look at all the athletes that die early deaths. Were they all drug addicts? No, they over exerted themselves to the point of doing damage. That's all I'm saying. Yes, please show me the long list of athletes that die young. I looked up your claim and it's one study from 2014, zero follow up studies done by it, and a pretty good article debunking his claims https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/extreme-exercise-and-the-heart
March 28, 20223 yr I can't think of a scenario where too much exercise is bad for your heart, unless there's an undiagnosed condition that causes your heart to fail from the stress exercise puts on it. Now a life of little sleep and lots of drugs and alcohol? Yeah - not great for your cardiovascular health
March 28, 20223 yr 9 minutes ago, mikemack8 said: I can't think of a scenario where too much exercise is bad for your heart, unless there's an undiagnosed condition that causes your heart to fail from the stress exercise puts on it. Now a life of little sleep and lots of drugs and alcohol? Yeah - not great for your cardiovascular health Everything in moderation Quote Does long-distance running cause AFIB? According to a 2012 review published in the Mayo Clinic's medical journal, veteran endurance athletes in sports such as marathon or ultramarathon running have been noted to have a fivefold increase in the prevalence of atrial fibrillation, or irregular heartbeat.Feb 3, 2020 It may be too late now, but I think that his family (or the band) would have been wise to fly an independent medical examiner in to have them at least observe the autopsy. Columbia has a little bit of an image problem when it comes to drugs, and, in such a high profile case, there's likely to be political pressure to find reasons why it was Hawkins lifestyle, not their drug culture that caused his death. That's not to say it wasn't a bit of both, just to say that some might like to release a narrative rather that the whole story. To that end, it would be smart to take what these "journalists" are claiming with a grain of salt right now. Like most "journalists" these days, they're more interested in being first than they are in being right, and they've already had to retract some reports.
March 28, 20223 yr https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4969030/. This is why there are defibrillators on the field. Key Points Though exercise is, in general, health-promoting, it is associated with an increased risk of sudden cardiac death for a small number of individuals who harbor cardiac conditions. Sudden cardiac death is the most common medical cause of death in athletes, with an incidence of around 1 in 40,000 to 1 in 80,000 athletes per year according to the most recent estimates. The risk and causes of sudden cardiac death vary based upon the athlete population. Male gender, black race, and basketball participation all place an athlete at higher risk. Sudden cardiac death in younger athletes (< 35 years) is commonly due to inherited cardiac conditions, while in older athletes (> 35 years) it is most often due to atherosclerotic coronary artery disease. There remains significant debate over the best strategy to prevent sudden cardiac death in athletes and the role of the electrocardiogram in preparticipation screening. The optimal preparticipation evaluation for a given group of athletes depends on the risk of the population and available expert resources.
March 28, 20223 yr Author Gotta love the first sentence of the conclusion Although rare, SCD in the athlete is a traumatic event that has a large impact on society.
March 28, 20223 yr Author 10 minutes ago, The_Omega said: Everything in moderation It may be too late now, but I think that his family (or the band) would have been wise to fly an independent medical examiner in to have them at least observe the autopsy. Columbia has a little bit of an image problem when it comes to drugs, and, in such a high profile case, there's likely to be political pressure to find reasons why it was Hawkins lifestyle, not their drug culture that caused his death. That's not to say it wasn't a bit of both, just to say that some might like to release a narrative rather that the whole story. To that end, it would be smart to take what these "journalists" are claiming with a grain of salt right now. Like most "journalists" these days, they're more interested in being first than they are in being right, and they've already had to retract some reports. So how high is this risk? The magnitude varies, but some reviews suggest that the risk of atrial fibrillation for extreme athletes may be increased five fold when compared to sedentary people. While this sounds drastic, Brian Olshansky, a heart-rhythm specialist in Iowa and an avid runner (every cardiologist I spoke to who studies this issue is a current or former endurance athlete), helped put the risk in context: "Let’s say one’s lifetime risk of atrial fibrillation is 0.3 per cent,” he said. (The risk varies depending on several factors, like age and obesity.) "A five-fold increase still leaves your lifetime risk of atrial fibrillation at only 1.5 per cent.” https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/extreme-exercise-and-the-heart
March 28, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, DaEagles4Life said: So how high is this risk? The magnitude varies, but some reviews suggest that the risk of atrial fibrillation for extreme athletes may be increased five fold when compared to sedentary people. While this sounds drastic, Brian Olshansky, a heart-rhythm specialist in Iowa and an avid runner (every cardiologist I spoke to who studies this issue is a current or former endurance athlete), helped put the risk in context: "Let’s say one’s lifetime risk of atrial fibrillation is 0.3 per cent,” he said. (The risk varies depending on several factors, like age and obesity.) "A five-fold increase still leaves your lifetime risk of atrial fibrillation at only 1.5 per cent.” https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/extreme-exercise-and-the-heart
March 28, 20223 yr Only on the EMB To each his/her own, but I think I'll take exercise over mainlining Colombian booger sugar and vodka for improving my heart health
March 28, 20223 yr I mean 2 of the 4 drugs listed were medication for depression and mental disorders and 1 other was the most deadly drugs there is in opioids and then there was 6 other drugs in his body.... But sure the hard drumming is what did him in lol
March 28, 20223 yr 6 hours ago, mikemack8 said: Only on the EMB To each his/her own, but I think I'll take exercise over mainlining Colombian booger sugar and vodka for improving my heart health He was shooting up coke and vodka?
March 29, 20223 yr Just got the notification Quote It is with great sadness that Foo Fighters confirm the cancellation of all upcoming tour dates in light of the staggering loss of our brother Taylor Hawkins. We’re sorry for and share in the disappointment that we won’t be seeing one another as planned. Instead, let’s take this time to grieve, to heal, to pull our loved ones close, and to appreciate all the music and memories we’ve made together. With Love, Foo Fighters
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