Another offseason change of scenery likely for Foles

 

 

 

Reuben Frank

EAGLES INSIDER

It looks like former Eagle, Ram, Chief and Jaguar Nick Foles is about to become a former Chicago Bear as well. 

The Bears signed former Bronco / Jet / Saint Trevor Siemian to a two-year, $4 million deal Friday to back up Justin Fields, and according to NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo the Bears have been fielding calls for the Eagles' legend, who no longer has a role in Chicago.

Whether they can find a taker in this offseason of crazy quarterback movement remains to be seen.

Foles signed a three-year, $24 million restructure with the Bears after they acquired him from the Jaguars two years ago. He has one year left on that deal at $4 million for 2022.

But when the Bears acquired Foles, their head coach was Matt Nagy, who was on Andy Reid’s coaching staff with the Eagles in 2012, Foles’ rookie year, and also in Kansas City in 2016, when Foles played for the Chiefs.
 
Once the Bears fired Nagy, Foles became a lame-duck backup, although according to Garafolo the Bears did pay him a $4 million bonus last month. The Bears’ new head coach is Matt Eberflus, and their new GM is Ryan Poles, who was also with Foles in Kansas City.

Assuming Foles plays for another team in 2022, this will become the sixth time in the last eight years the 2017 Super Bowl MVP has changed teams during the offseason.

Since leading the Eagles on a miracle Super Bowl run after replacing injured Carson Wentz in 2017, Foles has a 7-10 record in 17 starts with the Eagles, Jaguars and Bears.

Over the last six seasons, he's won a total of 10 regular-season games ... and a Super Bowl. 

In his career, Foles is 21-11 with a 93.2 passer rating with the Eagles and 8-16 with a 79.0 passer rating with the Chiefs, Rams, Jaguars and Bears.

He's won just three games since the Eagles beat the Bears at Soldier Field in the 2018 wild-card Cody Parkey "Double-Doink" game.

Foles, the Eagles' 3rd-round pick in 2012, has had one of the most unusual careers of any Super Bowl MVP. 

He had a record-setting 2013 season with the Eagles, with 27 touchdowns and just 2 interceptions and a franchise-record 119.2 passer rating. But after going 6-2 in 2014, he was traded by Chip Kelly to the Rams for Sam Bradford.

Foles went 4-7 with the Rams before he was released, then spent 2016 with the Chiefs, winning his only start. He returned to the Eagles and led them on a historic postseason run, completing 73 percent of his passes with a 115.7 passer rating in the postseason and out-gunning Tom Brady in Super Bowl LII in Minneapolis.

Foles replaced Wentz again in 2018 and led the Eagles to the playoffs again and a win in Chicago - the Eagles' last postseason win - before the Eagles opted to let him hit free agency after the season so Wentz could continue as the starter.

Foles signed a massive four-year, $88 million contract with $45 million guaranteed with the Jaguars but was benched for current Eagle Gardner Minshew after going 0-4 in four starts. He then went 2-5 with the Bears in 2020 and won his only start this past year in Chicago.

Foles has never started more than 11 games in a season and hasn’t started more than seven since 2015.

He’s earned $78.45 million in 10 NFL seasons, including just over $30 million from the Jaguars and about $18 million from the Eagles.

Foles, 33, has averaged 3 wins per season in his career.

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/eagles-super-bowl-mvp-nick-foles-roundabout-career-about-take-another-turn

I'll say it now... No!

I disagree with my friend UK.

This gives us a chance to move Minshew and sign a credible backup. 

9 hours ago, Rob331 said:

I disagree with my friend UK.

This gives us a chance to move Minshew and sign a credible backup. 

This is the last chance for Hurts though... I just don't think that would be fair to him at all. The noises grew with Minshew so with Foles it would be insane. 

I don't know about that. I'd be popular with the fans and I think even the most rabid Foles fans understand he's regressed to the point that he's a back up at best. 

18 hours ago, Rob331 said:

I disagree with my friend UK.

This gives us a chance to move Minshew and sign a credible backup. 

That would be the only way this would make sense, is if Howie was able to swing a deal to move Minshew for say a 4th and the fill the backup spot with Foles.  But I would wait until he is released rather than dealing a pick and taking on his contract in the process.  

1 hour ago, time2rock said:

But I would wait until he is released rather than dealing a pick and taking on his contract in the process.  

Agree completely

On 3/29/2022 at 5:05 PM, Rob331 said:

I disagree with my friend UK.

This gives us a chance to move Minshew and sign a credible backup. 

Minshew isn’t a credible backup? Have you seen some of the other backups around the league?

2 hours ago, Outlaw said:

Minshew isn’t a credible backup? Have you seen some of the other backups around the league?

Agreed.  I don't know that one option is better than the other - seems like somewhat of a wash.  The only advantage would be in adding a 2023 mid round pick (by dealing Minshew).  

I call it now, he signs with the Commanders.

 

 

7 hours ago, Outlaw said:

Minshew isn’t a credible backup? Have you seen some of the other backups around the league?

 

5 hours ago, time2rock said:

Agreed.  I don't know that one option is better than the other - seems like somewhat of a wash.  The only advantage would be in adding a 2023 mid round pick (by dealing Minshew).  

 

On 3/30/2022 at 3:36 PM, Rob331 said:

I don't know about that. I'd be popular with the fans and I think even the most rabid Foles fans understand he's regressed to the point that he's a back up at best. 

I’m speaking for Rob here, but my take from what he said is not that Minshew is not a credible backup but rather we would have a legit replacement for him in the event that someone offered us say a 3rd round pick.

Minshew is definitely a top 5 backup QB in this league.

On 3/29/2022 at 9:24 PM, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I'll say it now... No!

 

On 3/30/2022 at 3:36 PM, Rob331 said:

I don't know about that. I'd be popular with the fans and I think even the most rabid Foles fans understand he's regressed to the point that he's a back up at best. 

 

On 3/30/2022 at 4:44 PM, time2rock said:

That would be the only way this would make sense, is if Howie was able to swing a deal to move Minshew for say a 4th and the fill the backup spot with Foles.  But I would wait until he is released rather than dealing a pick and taking on his contract in the process.  

I actually think Foles is done with the Eagles. I don’t blame him. Had 2 great runs with us and we traded him twice.

Philly fans ALWAYS love the backup QB more......so Foles wouldn't be any different.  

The starting QB in philadelphia needs to know that and deal with it.  

If they get a good offer for Minshew, Howie will move him since he has no future here.  Foles knows his starting days are over but would be a very good backup here.  If Sirianni told Minshew that Hurts is the starter and that's it, then why couldn't he tell that to any backup coming in?

On 3/29/2022 at 4:24 PM, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I'll say it now... No!

 

On 3/30/2022 at 2:19 AM, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

This is the last chance for Hurts though... I just don't think that would be fair to him at all. The noises grew with Minshew so with Foles it would be insane. 

I'd take him as a backup/mentor, but I have a feeling that Hurts won't be on the team in 2023. Not as the starter, anyway. So I wouldn't be at all concerned about the effect that having him on the team would have. If he is back with us in 2023 as the starter, then I think he could learn a lot from Nick. 

I wouldn't trade for Nick, nor would I want him to get a huge contract. But as a backup, I wouldn't howl in anger. Would I want him starting? If this is a throw away season, waiting for a QB draft in 2023, I wouldn't care who starts. I don't see us being serious contenders with Hurts.

The only thing that I would say would be a negative, would be for Nick to start and lose a lot of games. Why would that be a negative (other than the act of losing)? It would damage his legacy and I wouldn't want that. 

I'd really like to see him retire in an Eagles uniform, though. 

15 hours ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

 

I'd take him as a backup/mentor, but I have a feeling that Hurts won't be on the team in 2023. Not as the starter, anyway. So I wouldn't be at all concerned about the effect that having him on the team would have. If he is back with us in 2023 as the starter, then I think he could learn a lot from Nick. 

I wouldn't trade for Nick, nor would I want him to get a huge contract. But as a backup, I wouldn't howl in anger. Would I want him starting? If this is a throw away season, waiting for a QB draft in 2023, I wouldn't care who starts. I don't see us being serious contenders with Hurts.

The only thing that I would say would be a negative, would be for Nick to start and lose a lot of games. Why would that be a negative (other than the act of losing)? It would damage his legacy and I wouldn't want that. 

I'd really like to see him retire in an Eagles uniform, though. 

Nah, he cemented his legacy with that stellar postseason in January/February 2018 (maybe not so much the Atlanta game but Minny and NE ... he was super clutch).  

First jersey I bought since Dawk (not huge on buying jerseys).  I never wear it ... but love knowing I have the jersey of the first QB to lead us to a Lombardi.  

On 4/1/2022 at 12:52 AM, Outlaw said:

Minshew isn’t a credible backup?

Not what I meant at all. My point was that Foles is a credible backup. Understand how you misunderstood my meaning. I should have written it differently. Get value for Minshew and replace him with ANOTHER credible backup 

On 4/1/2022 at 8:54 AM, ManchesterEagle said:

 

 

I’m speaking for Rob here, but my take from what he said is not that Minshew is not a credible backup but rather we would have a legit replacement for him in the event that someone offered us say a 3rd round pick.

Minshew is definitely a top 5 backup QB in this league.

Bingo! Thanks pal.