April 12, 20223 yr 8 hours ago, Dwide Schrude said: Such a strange take of yours honestly I agree. What the F is wrong with me? I want lots of premium players this year. Fix the team. If the team were all in, they would push the chips in and bet everything on this year.
April 12, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, CouchKing said: I agree. What the F is wrong with me? I want lots of premium players this year. Fix the team. If the team were all in, they would push the chips in and bet everything on this year. Maybe they’re not all in on being able to be legitimately competitive … it all starts with the QB and while he is athletic as hell and has a ton of heart, it’s reasonable to have doubts in him as the long term solution (despite what they are saying publicly). IMO this is best to put us in a great position to make a run at a QB next year if the need is there and still have plenty of ammo this year (5 picks on days 1+2) to add some young talent to the roster.
April 12, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, CouchKing said: I agree. What the F is wrong with me? I want lots of premium players this year. Fix the team. If the team were all in, they would push the chips in and bet everything on this year. Spreading out the assets allows them to have greater flexibility in future drafts, and, of course, there's a decent chance that the Saints ish the bed this year and that pick winds up being a really good one. This will give them another season to evaluate Hurts, and as T2R said, will allow them to be in a better position in next year's draft to snag a QB if he doesn't pan out. Honestly, I was kind of bummed when the deal went down as well because I wanted the instant gratification of drafting three first rounders this year, but it really does make sense to spread the picks out. Realistically, it's not like we're on the precipice of competing for a title where that third first round pick in this year's draft could be a guy to push us over the top anyway.
April 12, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, CouchKing said: I agree. What the F is wrong with me? I want lots of premium players this year. Fix the team. If the team were all in, they would push the chips in and bet everything on this year. Are you seriously suggesting that you think it would be a good idea if they were to trade every draft pick they own for the next ten years to accumulate picks for this very specific draft with the hopes they win an immediate championship? Do you seriously not realize how ridiculous that idea would be? Because that’s basically what you’re proposing.
April 12, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, CouchKing said: I agree. What the F is wrong with me? I want lots of premium players this year. Fix the team. If the team were all in, they would push the chips in and bet everything on this year. On 4/7/2022 at 1:00 PM, NOTW said: Draft picks don't automatically translate into winning the immediate year. Besides, normally you have only one pick in each round. Having 3 picks is unusual. But they have 2 picks in the 1st round still, which is still more than usual. The draft isn't about reaching for needs to play the current season only. It's about building a roster of the best players available. Sometimes that is an immediate need for a day 1 starter. Sometimes that is thinking ahead, for example if they draft a DT high who might sit behind Cox & Hargrave then start the following year. If you think that DT will be your future, you grab him instead of another position who overall might not be as great a player.
April 12, 20223 yr 6 hours ago, CouchKing said: I agree. What the F is wrong with me? I want lots of premium players this year. Fix the team. If the team were all in, they would push the chips in and bet everything on this year. What do you expect? All these rookies will be able to stand toe to toe with the Rams? Chargers? Bills? Chiefs? Get real man.
April 12, 20223 yr 6 hours ago, CouchKing said: I agree. What the F is wrong with me? I want lots of premium players this year. Fix the team. If the team were all in, they would push the chips in and bet everything on this year. This teams needs to be built up and trading for more picks next year with a good chance of a top 10 pick from the Saints declining is a smart move. If Hurts doesn't get any better we will get our shot at a top QB.
April 12, 20223 yr 6 hours ago, CouchKing said: I agree. What the F is wrong with me? I want lots of premium players this year. Fix the team. If the team were all in, they would push the chips in and bet everything on this year. One issue is that this year's draft is lacking in premium players. Many of these guys will turn out to be good solid starters, but it doesn't appear to be heavy in the real elite guys that the Eagles are missing. Although, besides elite players, the team is also lacking in "good" players at a lot of positions. So this draft will be important in solidifying the starters while hopefully hitting on an above average player. Getting more picks next year was smart as it appears to have much more elite talent.
April 12, 20223 yr Just now, kentwo said: One issue is that this year's draft is lacking in premium players. Many of these guys will turn out to be good solid starters, but it doesn't appear to be heavy in the real elite guys that the Eagles are missing. Although, besides elite players, the team is also lacking in "good" players at a lot of positions. So this draft will be important in solidifying the starters while hopefully hitting on an above average player. Getting more picks next year was smart as it appears to have much more elite talent. ^^^This. It's a pedestrian draft at best. It makes all the sense in the world to leverage draft capital in an average draft to improve your draft capital in a stronger draft, which 2023 projects to be. Also, as Howie said, you don't want three 1st round guys coming off their rookie deals at the same time. If you've picked the right three guys, they're all going to get paid and no team can afford that.
April 12, 20223 yr I'd be all for Bryce Young but want nothing to do with Stroud. He just gives off huge bust vibes...
April 12, 20223 yr 5 hours ago, Kz! said: Spreading out the assets allows them to have greater flexibility in future drafts, and, of course, there's a decent chance that the Saints ish the bed this year and that pick winds up being a really good one. This will give them another season to evaluate Hurts, and as T2R said, will allow them to be in a better position in next year's draft to snag a QB if he doesn't pan out. Honestly, I was kind of bummed when the deal went down as well because I wanted the instant gratification of drafting three first rounders this year, but it really does make sense to spread the picks out. Realistically, it's not like we're on the precipice of competing for a title where that third first round pick in this year's draft could be a guy to push us over the top anyway. And it’s not just moving a first to next year, we did gain additional picks doing so..
April 17, 20223 yr Derp derp best player available, derp a derp a derp we have needs!!! No, not that need the best player is what we need but not that one!! I think we should go best player unless it's a position of needssss then get that player because we have a lot of needs so might as well go best player This is what mostly everyone says on here almost every day.
April 18, 20223 yr 7 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said: Derp derp best player available, derp a derp a derp we have needs!!! No, not that need the best player is what we need but not that one!! I think we should go best player unless it's a position of needssss then get that player because we have a lot of needs so might as well go best player This is what mostly everyone says on here almost every day. I just want them to pick the players I like. Don‘t care much about the rest! 😁
April 19, 20223 yr These are all good posts. Two other things to consider: - any trade which nets extra value such as the net 2nd and 3rd round picks we got strengthens the franchise long term: - if we have too many top picks in any one year, we have too many free agents in four years to re-sign and stay under the cap, so it helps to spread them out.
August 4, 20223 yr Remember this trade? Well the player they selected with that pick, Trevor Penning, has been involved in physical altercations for 3 straight practices now and was kicked out yesterday.
August 4, 20223 yr On 4/12/2022 at 8:07 AM, CouchKing said: I agree. What the F is wrong with me? I want lots of premium players this year. Fix the team. If the team were all in, they would push the chips in and bet everything on this year. That's why you're not an NFL GM. Honestly, you come off like a baby with a post like that. You spread out your assets given the cap.
August 4, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, Procus said: That's why you're not an NFL GM. Honestly, you come off like a baby with a post like that. You spread out your assets given the cap. I agree, but I will state it will me much harder for the Eagles to use two first to move up to get the quarterback next season everyone ASSumes they will make a play for instead of having at least three. If the guys are as good as people think then teams aren’t making moves unless an offer blows them away and frankly having two first will not do that. There are far too many teams in this league with bad to no quarterbacks to assume they will simply trade with the Eagles and most of those teams at the top of the draft will be the ones looking for a quarterback.
August 4, 20223 yr 27 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said: I agree, but I will state it will me much harder for the Eagles to use two first to move up to get the quarterback next season everyone ASSumes they will make a play for instead of having at least three. If the guys are as good as people think then teams aren’t making moves unless an offer blows them away and frankly having two first will not do that. There are far too many teams in this league with bad to no quarterbacks to assume they will simply trade with the Eagles and most of those teams at the top of the draft will be the ones looking for a quarterback. I doubt very much the Eagles are targeting any of the hot names out there at QB. The one missing factor in each of these QB's is size - and it is usually an outlier these days when a QB less than 6'3" wins a SB.
August 4, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Procus said: I doubt very much the Eagles are targeting any of the hot names out there at QB. The one missing factor in each of these QB's is size - and it is usually an outlier these days when a QB less than 6'3" wins a SB. Everyone is assuming the Eagles will just be able to pick one of these guys up, because they don’t like Hurts (the haters and not the Eagles) and because of that the Eagles will make a trade and some team who most likely will be having their own quarterback issues will just make a trade.
August 4, 20223 yr 46 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said: I agree, but I will state it will me much harder for the Eagles to use two first to move up to get the quarterback next season everyone ASSumes they will make a play for instead of having at least three. If the guys are as good as people think then teams aren’t making moves unless an offer blows them away and frankly having two first will not do that. There are far too many teams in this league with bad to no quarterbacks to assume they will simply trade with the Eagles and most of those teams at the top of the draft will be the ones looking for a quarterback. Most teams moving up for a QB don't have multiple 1s in a given year ... they use future draft picks to make the deal. Any deal we make would just involve less future assets.
August 4, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, time2rock said: Most teams moving up for a QB don't have multiple 1s in a given year ... they use future draft picks to make the deal. Any deal we make would just involve less future assets. With so many teams lacking quarterbacks it’s not realistic any team at the top of the draft is going to simply trade with the Eagles to give them one.most likely the teams at the top of the draft will be in need of quarterbacks.
August 4, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said: With so many teams lacking quarterbacks it’s not realistic any team at the top of the draft is going to simply trade with the Eagles to give them one.most likely the teams at the top of the draft will be in need of quarterbacks. Just looked at Charlie Campbells mock draft on Walter Football, he has the #2 Jags taking DE Will Anderson, so the #2 pick would be available in this scenario. Just looked at Bleacher Report, teams picking at 3 and 4 did not take a QB. It all depends on who has the pick. The Jags, Jets, Bears would probably not draft a QB if they are in the top 3, but sure would line up to have two firsts plus in the draft. Plus, the Saints could have a top 5 pick ( even though I picked them to have more wins than the Eagles ), which means the Eagles have a top 5 pick. If Howie wants a QB, he will find a way to go get a QB.
August 4, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, downundermike said: Just looked at Charlie Campbells mock draft on Walter Football, he has the #2 Jags taking DE Will Anderson, so the #2 pick would be available in this scenario. Just looked at Bleacher Report, teams picking at 3 and 4 did not take a QB. It all depends on who has the pick. The Jags, Jets, Bears would probably not draft a QB if they are in the top 3, but sure would line up to have two firsts plus in the draft. Plus, the Saints could have a top 5 pick ( even though I picked them to have more wins than the Eagles ), which means the Eagles have a top 5 pick. If Howie wants a QB, he will find a way to go get a QB. I agree if Howie wants a QB he’ll find a way to get one. But waaaaaaaaaay too early to be looking at mock drafts (and even if we knew draft order now, we don’t know what teams are thinking … if they’d want to draft a QB or are in love with a player at another position). I’d have to think teams like Seattle, NO, Detroit, NYG, TB possibly (if Brady retires), etc would be in play for a QB … but perhaps they aren’t. Then there are teams like Miami, Tennessee, Atlanta, Minnesota, etc all with somewhat questionable futures with their current QBs.
August 5, 20223 yr When you look at that trade initially, it looked like it was inadequate. But when really looking at it, trying to forecast where those picks end up, and how it's going to benefit the eagles for a couple more years, it was a great trade. Not to mention the trade for AJ Brown. They positioned themselves for next year if they want to move on from Hurts with an additional first, and picked up a 2nd rounder in 2024. If the saints do falter badly, and Hurts develops into a top 10 guy, Roseman will be in a position for getting a windfall in draft picks or the ability to get into the top 10 or maybe top 5 pick. I think most of us got excited at the thought of 3 first round pick, but we knew it was unlikely that Howie would use them all. I think he did a great job.
August 5, 20223 yr On 4/12/2022 at 4:09 PM, time2rock said: Maybe they’re not all in on being able to be legitimately competitive … it all starts with the QB and while he is athletic as hell and has a ton of heart, it’s reasonable to have doubts in him as the long term solution (despite what they are saying publicly). IMO this is best to put us in a great position to make a run at a QB next year if the need is there and still have plenty of ammo this year (5 picks on days 1+2) to add some young talent to the roster. Agreed. Pretty crazy how much our team improved without going all-in on this season though..
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