April 4, 20223 yr I'm not at all surprised about trading one of our #1s this year and getting something for next year. I did expected some kind of trade to happen closer to the draft. More picks are good, just choose wisely.
April 4, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, xstonr said: I'm not at all surprised about trading one of our #1s this year and getting something for next year. I did expected some kind of trade to happen closer to the draft. More picks are good, just choose wisely. They still can make that "closer to the draft" trade. That's why I think this is really smart.
April 4, 20223 yr Does this mean the Saints probably have a handshake deal in place for Willis? Is that what started the "Willis to Detroit” rumors?
April 4, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, SB52 said: Does this mean the Saints probably have a handshake deal in place for Willis? Is that what started the "Willis to Detroit” rumors? Would be great if the Saints drafted a rookie QB and inserted him as the starter week one
April 4, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, Macho Grande said: Howie setting up to draft a qb next year. The "we're all-in on Hurts" talk was always nonsense. Potentially positioning yourself for a QB next year and going all in on Hurts this year can both be true. If Hurts shows he is a franchise guy then clearly they will not draft a QB next year. They really want Hurts to be the guy because there is no guarantee they can even trade up to the top of the draft to draft a QB
April 4, 20223 yr 6 minutes ago, Macho Grande said: Howie setting up to draft a qb next year. The "we're all-in on Hurts" talk was always nonsense. Well what is he supposed to say? That he doesn't believe in him and A) kill any confidence he and the other players have in him and B) tank any potential draft capital he can pull in?
April 4, 20223 yr I think this trade with the Saints positions the Eagles pretty well to trade up into top 10 if Hamilton, Stingley or Sauce fall in that 8-10 range
April 4, 20223 yr 38 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: There's no way that's all we're getting back We traded a 1 for a 1, a 2 and a 3, and the 1 we got next year will likely be top 10 (or at least close to it) that’s a massive haul
April 4, 20223 yr Using the Rich Hill draft trade value chart, and with the general rule of thumb that future picks are roughly valued a round lower than current year picks, this is essentially a wash, if not a degradation of value if the Saints don't finish in the bottom 10 teams in the league. Seems like we could've held out for better value, no? Am I missing something here? Eagles give up: 1st rd, 16 ( 305pts ) 1st rd, 19 ( 278pts ) 6th rd (negligible) Total Value: 583pts Saints give up: 1st rd, 18 ( 287pts ) 3rd, 101 ( 35pts ) 7th rd (neglibible) 2023, 1st rd, valued as a current year 2nd rd, ~50 ( 115pts ) 2024, 2nd rd, valued as a current year 4th rd, ~114 ( 26pts ) Total Value: 463pts (up to ~520pts if Saints finish poorly) https://www.patspulpit.com/2018/4/21/17256758/2018-nfl-draft-value-chart-rich-hill
April 4, 20223 yr I wouldn’t be surprised if we trade back with 15 or 18 to recoup that 3rd depending on how the board is falling. We might move to the mid 20s and get a 3rd back.
April 4, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said: Using the Rich Hill draft trade value chart, and with the general rule of thumb that future picks are roughly a round lower than current year picks, this is essentially a wash, if not a degradation of value if the Saints don't finish in the bottom 10 teams in the league. Seems like we could've held out for better value, no? Am I missing something here? Eagles give up: 1st rd, 16 ( 305pts ) 1st rd, 19 ( 278pts ) 6th rd (negligible) Total Value: 583pts Saints give up: 1st rd, 18 ( 287pts ) 3rd, 101 ( 35pts ) 7th rd (neglibible) 2023, 1st rd, valued as a current year 2nd rd, ~50 ( 115pts ) 2024, 2nd rd, valued as a current year 4th rd, ~114 ( 26pts ) Total Value: 463pts (up to 520pts if Saints finish poorly) https://www.patspulpit.com/2018/4/21/17256758/2018-nfl-draft-value-chart-rich-hill Eagles only gave up one first
April 4, 20223 yr Love this. If Hurts can’t show enough this year, it puts us in a strong position to get his replacement in a stronger NFL chance (and if the Saints bomb even gives us a chance at the top two) If Hurts works out we are loaded for the next 2 drafts to continue to build around him.
April 4, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: Eagles only gave up one first That would make more sense then. Not sure where I got confused. EDIT: Looks like the OP has it wrong... EDIT2: No he had it right after all, we gave up two firsts. So yeah, wtf? Quote According to multiple reports, the Eagles will be sending the 16th, 19th, and 194th picks in this year’s draft to the Saints for the 18th, 101st, and 237th picks as well as a 2023 first-round pick and a 2024 second-round pick. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/04/04/eagles-trade-16th-19th-picks-to-saints-for-no-18-2023-first-rounder-and-more/ 1 hour ago, Cheesteakitis said: Philadelphia has agreed to trade the 16th and 19th overall picks, along with a sixth-round pick (No. 194 overall) in the 2022 NFL Draft to New Orleans in exchange for five draft picks. From the Saints, the Eagles will receive:
April 4, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, CaliEagle said: I wouldn’t be surprised if we trade back with 15 or 18 to recoup that 3rd depending on how the board is falling. We might move to the mid 20s and get a 3rd back. We didn’t give up a third, we gained a third
April 4, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, Boogyman said: Those 2 third and three 5th rounders could be big IMO This is the hidden value of this entire trade. Never in my life have I seen a 3rd round this good.
April 4, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, CaliEagle said: I wouldn’t be surprised if we trade back with 15 or 18 to recoup that 3rd depending on how the board is falling. We might move to the mid 20s and get a 3rd back. We got the third.
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