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I've been dumping stories like these into the George Floyd thread, but I think this topic deserves a thread of its own. This thread is for discussing criminality in cities with liberal DAs. Basically they are dystopian hellholes that probably would have seemed far fetched as little as ten years ago. This is the end result of liberal criminal justice reform:

 

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Criminal justice reform got us another mass shooter that didn't get much airtime. The Sacramento shooter that killed 6:

 

 

2 hours ago, Kz! said:

This thread is for discussing criminality in cities with liberal DAs

Yeah, this only happens in liberal cities.

I was in Texas 16 years ago for my brothers wedding, and stopped at the Walmart in Tyler Texas for a couple cases of water.  They had a city cop stationed in the Electronics section due to all the smash and grabs by the white meth heads.  

You need to stop your narrative that only POC in Democrat cities commit crime.  This was the voting in the 2020 election in Smith County Texas.  Big gun and Republican state, still has crime.

 

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im glad we have a thread for this now. i dont go into the floyd thread much so i miss the crazyness. 

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3 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Yeah, this only happens in liberal cities.

I was in Texas 16 years ago for my brothers wedding, and stopped at the Walmart in Tyler Texas for a couple cases of water.  They had a city cop stationed in the Electronics section due to all the smash and grabs by the white meth heads.  

You need to stop your narrative that only POC in Democrat cities commit crime.  This was the voting in the 2020 election in Smith County Texas.  Big gun and Republican state, still has crime.

 

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The first post said nothing about blacks, grandpa. Try to keep your racial animus to yourself. 

2 minutes ago, Kz! said:

The first post said nothing about blacks, grandpa. Try to keep your racial animus to yourself. 

We know what you are doing.  Prove me wrong, post crimes committed by white folks in these cities.

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Just now, downundermike said:

We know what you are doing.  Prove me wrong, post crimes committed by white folks in these cities.

Can't tell the skin color of this one, but in LA there's been an unprecedented 48 hours of lawlessness. The thugs ran down a lady in a car to steal her watch:

 

20 minutes ago, downundermike said:

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why is the legend cut off of this? what do the different colors mean?

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31 minutes ago, downundermike said:

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Cool map should we explore the violent cities listed?

10 minutes ago, downundermike said:
  1. St. Louis, MO (2,082) - Dem Mayor
  2. Detroit, MI (2,057) - Dem Mayor
  3. Baltimore, MD (2,027) - Dem Mayor
  4. Memphis, TN (2,003) - Dem Mayor
  5. Little Rock, AR (1,634) - Dem Mayor
  6. Milwaukee, WI (1,597) - Dem Mayor
  7. Rockford, IL (1,588) - Dem Mayor
  8. Cleveland, OH (1,557) - Dem Mayor
  9. Stockton, CA (1,415) - Repub Mayor
  10. Albuquerque, NM (1,369) - Dem Mayor
  11. Springfield, MO (1,339) - Independent Mayor
  12. Indianapolis, IN (1,334) - Dem Mayor
  13. Oakland, CA (1,299) - Dem Mayor
  14. San Bernardino, CA (1,291) - Repub Mayor
  15. Anchorage, AK (1,203) - Repub Mayor
  16. Nashville, TN (1,138) - Dem Mayor
  17. Lansing, MI (1,136) - Dem Mayor
  18. New Orleans, LA (1,121) - Dem Mayor
  19. Minneapolis, MN (1,101) - Dem Mayor
  20. Chicago, IL (1,099) - Dem Mayor

16 Dems, 3 Repubs, 1 Independent 

 

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:roll: 

For complete transparency - of the states listed, it's an even split, 7 Dem 7 Repub governors.  11 cities in Dem states, 9 in Repub states.  

54 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Yeah, this only happens in liberal cities.

I was in Texas 16 years ago for my brothers wedding, and stopped at the Walmart in Tyler Texas for a couple cases of water.  They had a city cop stationed in the Electronics section due to all the smash and grabs by the white meth heads.  

You need to stop your narrative that only POC in Democrat cities commit crime.  This was the voting in the 2020 election in Smith County Texas.  Big gun and Republican state, still has crime.

 

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His point is that big cities run by liberals are violent.  Which is stupid because nearly every big city in the country is run by liberals, because they're big cities, which means it's more helpful to look at the smaller sample size of big cities that are run by Republicans to see how they're doing.  

Of the top 30 biggest cities, only 3 have a Republican mayor: Jacksonville, FL, Ft Worth, TX and Oklahoma City, OK.  

Jacksonville is the murder capital of Florida.  

Ft. Worth hit a 27 year high in homicides last year.

Oklahoma City's murder rate is also at a 2 and a half decade high and was already increasing even while the national murder average was falling.

Sure. Let's focus on the cities. If you don't like it there, where "the Democrats" thrive in office, then move rural. It has to be the politicians' fault. But if we ignore a problem, it doesn't exist. That's the American way.  

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Rural America: 'If government's the problem, shoot it.'

The grand American tradition of disregard for the law – especially rural lawlessness – still thrives. This antigovernment flouting of the law may seem harmless, but it is corrosive and destructive, dismantling society rivet by rivet.

 

Traditionally, it is cities that have been viewed as centers of crime and lawlessness, but that is somewhat misleading. "One of the least understood topics in the field of criminology and criminal justice is that of rural crime,” wrote Joseph Donnermeyer, a professor of rural sociology at Ohio State University and director of the national rural crime prevention center, in 1995.

Rural Americans – and the politicians who patronize them – have promoted the idea that they are the nation’s upholders of righteousness, morality, and virtue. But this agrarian myth conveniently ignores our rustic romance with rural crime, from Bonnie and Clyde and John Dillinger to moon-shiners, the Ku Klux Klan, and marijuana farming.

It requires no great power of observation to see that in many pockets of Appalachia and much of rural America, our country cousins have long declared laws unto themselves. Old and established families often claim hereditary rights that they allege supersede state and US law, according to one federal law enforcement officer.

It is a national joke that rural speeding violations and DUI citations are for out-of-towners only, not local townspeople. I know of one hamlet in western Massachusetts where, when a new police officer was hired, he was specifically told that townspeople were not to be ticketed.

Local immunities

A convenience store operator in one New England village reportedly hustles his grocery clerk out the back door when he gets word that a state inspector is on the way to check employment compensation records.

President Reagan did America no favors when he preached that "government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.”

On Virginia’s Eastern Shore, rural support for that sentiment means that some game wardens (who are federal law enforcement officials) feel the need to wear bulletproof vests to work every day. One told me that it was not uncommon in hunting season for him to be peppered with birdshot when he is out in a boat. Rural logic is obvious: "If government’s the problem, shoot it.”

US Coast Guard crews, charged with marine safety inspections and smuggling interdiction, privately complain about the antigovernment vibe. "The locals have great distrust and hostility toward us,” one Coast Guard seaman told me. Frequently, recreational boaters try to outrun the Coast Guard to escape prosecution for boating under the influence of alcohol or drugs.

That’s "failure to heave to.” And it’s a federal crime.

A distressed moral landscape

Flouting the law has become a kind of Declaration of Independence in the hinterlands. It is often aided and abetted by state and federal lawmakers intent on watering down existing statutes to cozy up to their "good ol’ boy” constituents.

Increasingly, Americans have come to believe the law applies to everyone else, as they claim their private immunities. They rail at Wall Street crimes and illegal immigrants, yet they wink at their own tax evasion and hiring of "day laborers” to help with yardwork. This collective lawlessness may seem mild enough to be harmless, but it is inevitably corrosive and destructive, dismantling a society rivet by rivet.

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Rural lawlessness. :roll: 

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Just now, Kz! said:

Rural lawlessness. :roll: 

You ever gone out to the sticks? I mean really rural. Like in Appalachia. It's a third world country out there.

3 hours ago, Kz! said:

I've been dumping stories like these into the George Floyd thread, but I think this topic deserves a thread of its own. This thread is for discussing criminality in cities with liberal DAs. Basically they are dystopian hellholes that probably would have seemed far fetched as little as ten years ago. This is the end result of liberal criminal justice reform:

 

no lie, that's how the men's underwear section looks in the levittown wal-mart. it was a whole ordeal to get some. the best part was after they unlocked the case, they had to unlock the pack of boxer briefs from an individual case. 

1 minute ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

no lie, that's how the men's underwear section looks in the levittown wal-mart. it was a whole ordeal to get some. the best part was after they unlocked the case, they had to unlock the pack of boxer briefs from an individual case. 

Duluth Trading. "Armachillo" I think is the name. 

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Damn, 11. RIP.

 

47 minutes ago, toolg said:

Sure. Let's focus on the cities. If you don't like it there, where "the Democrats" thrive in office, then move rural. It has to be the politicians' fault. But if we ignore a problem, it doesn't exist. That's the American way.  

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Awesome rebuttal - a well written story full of data, facts, and statistical analysis that really drives the point home.  

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