4 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I would consider Nashville a fairly big city. Doubt anyone would struggle to find some pretty cool things to do there for a vacation.

Well yeah, nobody wants to deal with that, especially with kids in tow. Obviously not all cities are gonna be as clean or orderly as others, and they all have their seedy or sketchier areas. Grand Rapids, for example, is an awesome city especially if you like breweries, but if you take a wrong turn, you can hit some pretty impoverished areas fairly quickly. That's the also case with some of the beach cities on the west coast of Michigan that I mentioned earlier. St Joseph's is one of the nicer ones, but you have to drive past Benton Harbor to get there, which looks like a warzone in some parts. Conversely, I expected Manhattan to be way worse than it was before our first trip there. I saw 10x more homeless people walking two blocks in Toronto than I did walking from Fashion District to Rockafeller Plaza at 5am.

I've lived in ATL, LA, NY and the roughest city I've ever lived in was Savannah, GA.  You'd drive down the wrong street (mixed in with other streets where there were 150 year old mansions everywhere) and there would be a gang initiation where 20 guys were beating the sheet out of one dude.  Homeless would hound you relentlessly.  I got jumped leaving a bar one time by a bunch of people waiting in line for a club.  Head and shoulders more dangerous than the bigger cities.

22 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

Nashville's a huge city.  It's a top-25 city in the country.  There's plenty of crime/homelessness/trash there.

And no one goes to downtown LA.  It's a wasteland.  I certainly didn't go there last time I visited.  And I didn't go to Compton either because...wait for it....I'm afraid of getting murdered.  Just like you and Kz are afraid of cities.  It's not a huge deal.  People are afraid of things.  I'm afraid of alligators.  You guys are afraid of cities.

Let’s not confuse disdain with fear. Again, I just choose places that are more enjoyable for me and my family.  not sure why you’re trying to make this personal. 

Just now, Outlaw said:

Let’s not confuse disdain with fear. Again, I just choose places that are more enjoyable for me and my family.  not sure why you’re trying to make this personal. 

I mean, I'm not really with you.  You stepped in the middle of me personally attacking Kz.

4 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

I mean, I'm not really with you.  You stepped in the middle of me personally attacking Kz.

That’s fair. Lol

Shocking! Look who the Chinese arrested for running the secret police station pal around with 

3 hours ago, VanHammersly said:

I've lived in ATL, LA, NY and the roughest city I've ever lived in was Savannah, GA.  You'd drive down the wrong street (mixed in with other streets where there were 150 year old mansions everywhere) and there would be a gang initiation where 20 guys were beating the sheet out of one dude.  Homeless would hound you relentlessly.  I got jumped leaving a bar one time by a bunch of people waiting in line for a club.  Head and shoulders more dangerous than the bigger cities.

Fake news.  Me and the wife and daughter just went there in January for a long weekend - the only issue I had was the occasional stench from the nearby paper mill.  No crime, didn’t even see any homeless.

Then again the only walking we did at night was right on river street - lots of people around.

I went there about 6 years ago, and the locals were complaining about the rise in crime. They did point out that it was mostly in one area, and they usually preyed on obnoxious tourists. I walked the streets at night with no worries, but I (according to this website) have brass balls because I still do the same in lawless cities like SF.

7 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

Fake news.  Me and the wife and daughter just went there in January for a long weekend - the only issue I had was the occasional stench from the nearby paper mill.  No crime, didn’t even see any homeless.

Then again the only walking we did at night was right on river street - lots of people around.

Did your family think it was weird that you snuck away every night to go to Lady Chabli's Club One shows?

2 minutes ago, 91defense said:

I went there about 6 years ago, and the locals were complaining about the rise in crime. They did point out that it was mostly in one area, and they usually preyed on obnoxious tourists. I walked the streets at night with no worries, but I (according to this website) have brass balls because I still do the same in lawless cities like SF.

Haven't personally been to SF yet, but one of the dads on my kid's soccer team moved from there and said things really spiraled out of control recently. They had been there from before his daughter was born (they're U11) but in the last 3 years they were there, his car was broken into 4 times. 

A White couple is accused of killing a man because he was Black, a California district attorney says

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/22/us/california-justin-peoples-murder-hate-crime/index.html

Maurice Peoples was looking forward to lunch with his son, Justin Peoples, last week – but they didn’t get to share that meal because Justin was murdered the night before, in what a California district attorney is calling a hate crime.

Justin, who was Black, was shot once and stabbed multiple times at a Chevron gas station in Tracy, over 50 miles outside of San Francisco, California, around 9 p.m. on March 15, according to police.

Christina Lyn Garner, 42, and Jeremy Wayne Jones, 49, were arraigned on murder charges Friday with a special circumstance alleging the victim was intentionally killed because of his race, color, religion, nationality, or country of origin.

1 hour ago, VanHammersly said:

Did your family think it was weird that you snuck away every night to go to Lady Chabli's Club One shows?

She's dead  I did watch Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil after we got back though 

I enjoyed the town - would go back for sure.  Walking through the Bonaventure Cemetery was an experience, and the prohibition museum right in Savannah was cool.  I enjoyed the open containers on the streets as well   The trolley tour during the day was worth the money - the same thing at night that they advertise as a "ghost tour" was a waste of money.

On 4/19/2023 at 10:21 AM, VanHammersly said:

I got jumped leaving a bar one time by a bunch of people waiting in line for a club. 

 

Let's hear the story.

34 minutes ago, Kz! said:

 

Let's hear the story.

Happy to tell it. 

My brother and I were leaving a bar at 1 or 2 in the morning.  We were walking behind City Market, which is kind of the center of the downtown area, a lot of tourists but a lot of locals too, unlike River Street which is all tourists.  Bars and clubs all in it and around it (or there were back then).  There was a line of people waiting to get in a pretty ghetto club. 

All of the sudden, it started pouring rain and for some weird reason that I have no idea why, my brother passed out in the middle of the crosswalk.  The line of people saw him and for some insane reason, they bum rushed him and started pulling his shoes and jacket off.  I grabbed my brother and was fighting them off, pushing them back and then somebody took a swing at me and I dodged it Matrix style but I fell back onto the ground. 

They were in tight now and getting pretty aggressive and they took one of my brother's shoes and were going for the other until two huge dudes grabbed us and dragged us to their car.  They tossed us in the back.  My brother woke up without a shoe in the back of a Cadillac.  Then they took us back home.  The end.

21 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

Happy to tell it. 

My brother and I were leaving a bar at 1 or 2 in the morning.  We were walking behind City Market, which is kind of the center of the downtown area, a lot of tourists but a lot of locals too, unlike River Street which is all tourists.  Bars and clubs all in it and around it (or there were back then).  There was a line of people waiting to get in a pretty ghetto club. 

All of the sudden, it started pouring rain and for some weird reason that I have no idea why, my brother passed out in the middle of the crosswalk.  The line of people saw him and for some insane reason, they bum rushed him and started pulling his shoes and jacket off.  I grabbed my brother and was fighting them off, pushing them back and then somebody took a swing at me and I dodged it Matrix style but I fell back onto the ground. 

They were in tight now and getting pretty aggressive and they took one of my brother's shoes and were going for the other until two huge dudes grabbed us and dragged us to their car.  They tossed us in the back.  My brother woke up without a shoe in the back of a Cadillac.  Then they took us back home.  The end.

Wow, that must have been scary. Glad you made it out OK.

Just now, Kz! said:

Wow, that must have been scary. Glad you made it out OK.

I'm not telling the story to earn street cred, Kz.  It's okay to make fun of it. 

I have another one about getting arrested for stealing a hamburger in Sav, which is just as hard core.

Just now, VanHammersly said:

I'm not telling the story to earn street cred, Kz.  It's okay to make fun of it. 

I have another one about getting arrested for stealing a hamburger in Sav, which is just as hard core.

Wow, no wonder you walk around cities like a gigachad on the regular. Let's hear the hamburglar story. 

4 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Wow, no wonder you walk around cities like a gigachad on the regular. Let's hear the hamburglar story. 

The amazing thing is, most of my sketchy city stories are equally as not hardcore and yet you live in abject fear of stepping foot in a major city.  

By the way, slightly off topic but this needs to be said, if someone knocks on your door selling girl scout cookies or turns around in your driveway, try not to shoot them, even if they're black.  No matter how scared you are by the color of their skin, chances are you're fine.  They're probably not there to hurt you.  The vast majority of Americans aren't participating in The Purge inside your head.

But back to the hamburger story. I was at a hamburger restaurant with a buddy after leaving a bar, late at night.  It was a place that would make you a hamburger like a burrito place makes a burrito, right in front of you.  But the result is that you go through the line and they make it and then you pay.  So, I got a burger, got to the register and then realized I didn't have cash.  This is before debit cards but I did have an ATM card.  So I say hold on, go across the street to the ATM, but the ATM eats my card. 

So, I come back in and say Sorry, forget it, it ate my card, but the guy running the place lets me have the burger anyway and tells me to come by and pay him the next day.  During the course of eating, my buddy got into an argument with a table of guys but eventually it died down.  Meanwhile, we called our guy named Plummer who drove a taxicab and he came and picked us up.  I got into the cab and then my friend said hold on and he walked into the bar next door and got a cup of water and then opened up the door to the hamburger place and threw the cup of water at the guys but it missed, hit the register and broke it.

So my friend jumps in the cab and we start driving.  I look back and a handfull of people are chasing after the cab.  A cop sees a cab being chased and pulls us over.  The storeowner explains to the cop that my friend broke his register and then he says that I stole a hamburger even though I definitely didn't and we both went to jail.  And that's the hamburgler story.

Hospitals, now the new criminal intervention unit.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11996519/AOC-FALSELY-claims-cut-violent-crime-Bronx.html

1 hour ago, VanHammersly said:

The amazing thing is, most of my sketchy city stories are equally as not hardcore and yet you live in abject fear of stepping foot in a major city.  

I've never said anything about being afraid of major cities. I'm just not mentally handicapped like you and can understand crime rates lmao. 

40 minutes ago, Talkingbirds said:

Hospitals, now the new criminal intervention unit.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11996519/AOC-FALSELY-claims-cut-violent-crime-Bronx.html

They really are the dumbest humans on the planet.   

On 4/19/2023 at 1:55 PM, mikemack8 said:

Fake news.  Me and the wife and daughter just went there in January for a long weekend - the only issue I had was the occasional stench from the nearby paper mill.  No crime, didn’t even see any homeless.

Then again the only walking we did at night was right on river street - lots of people around.

And just like magic, a video of black people fighting in a fast food joint materializes. I mean, the universe is wild sometimes, isn't it?

13 hours ago, Kz! said:

And just like magic, a video of black people fighting in a fast food joint materializes. I mean, the universe is wild sometimes, isn't it?

Yeah I definitely didn't eat at any fast food joints while I was there 

I recently jaywalked from the Linc parking lot to CBP.  I figure I might as well confess before my disregard for social order gets exposed in here.

7 minutes ago, Shepard Wong said:

I recently jaywalked from the Linc parking lot to CBP.  I figure I might as well confess before my disregard for social order gets exposed in here.

But did you pass out in the middle of road whilst walking and get robbed of your sneakers?  

9 minutes ago, Shepard Wong said:

I recently jaywalked from the Linc parking lot to CBP.  I figure I might as well confess before my disregard for social order gets exposed in here.

Kz's gonna want to know your race before he decides if this is newsworthy or not.