May 20, 20232 yr 12 minutes ago, Boogyman said: I saw this film had a 350 million dollar production budget, so it would have to make almost a billion dollars just to break even. If it bombs, will they still make the other two? Seems an odd business strategy IMO. Im too hungover or something. How does a budget of 350 million have a break even of a billion?
May 20, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, 20dawk4life said: Im too hungover or something. How does a budget of 350 million have a break even of a billion? About half goes to the theaters, right? Also, films that cost this much to make typically have marketing budgets around 100 million bucks on top of production costs, so the break even point needs to include that as well. I just saw after writing this that it's doing extremely well overseas, so maybe it will make bank and my above comment is irrelevant anyway. Sometimes I forget how much some countries eat these movies up.
May 20, 20232 yr 6 minutes ago, 20dawk4life said: Im too hungover or something. How does a budget of 350 million have a break even of a billion? A quick Google and this came back. I'd say it has a realistic chance of hitting that. "When it comes to earning the money back to offset the cost of production, Screen Rant reported that the film will need to make roughly 2.5 times its budget to be declared a success, which is a minimum of $850 million worldwide"
May 20, 20232 yr 5 minutes ago, Boogyman said: A quick Google and this came back. I'd say it has a realistic chance of hitting that. "When it comes to earning the money back to offset the cost of production, Screen Rant reported that the film will need to make roughly 2.5 times its budget to be declared a success, which is a minimum of $850 million worldwide" I don’t think a success is breaking even though. I’d figure the 350 million includes marketing. No idea what the theaters get, but I don’t think it’s half. I think the 850 million mark is a spot that they feel comfortable making more movies, not breaking even.
May 20, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, 20dawk4life said: I don’t think a success is breaking even though. I’d figure the 350 million includes marketing. No idea what the theaters get, but I don’t think it’s half. I think the 850 million mark is a spot that they feel comfortable making more movies, not breaking even. It was actually 340, and that was just production. Anyhow, I find the huge budget film industry fascinating for some reason. And I agree this will probably clear a billion.
May 20, 20232 yr 7 minutes ago, 20dawk4life said: I don’t think a success is breaking even though. I’d figure the 350 million includes marketing. No idea what the theaters get, but I don’t think it’s half. I think the 850 million mark is a spot that they feel comfortable making more movies, not breaking even. "To determine if a movie made a profit, it is not correct to directly compare the box office gross with the production budget, because the movie theater keeps nearly half of the gross on average. The split varies from movie to movie, and the percentage for the distributor is generally higher in early weeks." Also from Google, and confirms what I read elsewhere. Also, some properties (MCU films are probably the best example because of Disney's huge merchandising abilities) can lose some money in the theater and still end being a net gain from all the other crap they sell.
May 20, 20232 yr Also found this about the Mario film, which puts a lot of these numbers in perspective IMO. https://dailycampus.com/2023/04/11/box-office-breakdown-the-super-mario-bros-movie-jumps-to-year-high-146-million-opening/
May 20, 20232 yr Just now, Boogyman said: Also found this about the Mario film, which puts a lot of these numbers in perspective IMO. https://dailycampus.com/2023/04/11/box-office-breakdown-the-super-mario-bros-movie-jumps-to-year-high-146-million-opening/ "With a reported $100 million production budget, factoring in an estimated $80 million marketing spend, "The Super Mario Bros. Movie” has a break-even point around $396 million."
May 20, 20232 yr 46 minutes ago, Boogyman said: "To determine if a movie made a profit, it is not correct to directly compare the box office gross with the production budget, because the movie theater keeps nearly half of the gross on average. The split varies from movie to movie, and the percentage for the distributor is generally higher in early weeks." Also from Google, and confirms what I read elsewhere. Also, some properties (MCU films are probably the best example because of Disney's huge merchandising abilities) can lose some money in the theater and still end being a net gain from all the other crap they sell. 42 minutes ago, Boogyman said: "With a reported $100 million production budget, factoring in an estimated $80 million marketing spend, "The Super Mario Bros. Movie” has a break-even point around $396 million." Interesting. Didn’t know this. They budget weirdly.
May 20, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, 20dawk4life said: I’d figure the 350 million includes marketing. Production budgets don't include marketing or distribution costs. Those are separate.
May 20, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, 20dawk4life said: Interesting. Didn’t know this. They budget weirdly. I agree, it seems unsustainable IMO. Especially with films going to streaming as fast as they do nowadays.
May 20, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said: Production budgets don't include marketing or distribution costs. Those are separate. Is it you that works for movies?
May 20, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, 20dawk4life said: Is it you that works for movies? No. Van or Dave I think
May 22, 20232 yr On 5/20/2023 at 7:19 AM, 20dawk4life said: Oh and I doubt this does under 1 billion The opening weekend was good globally, but terrible in the US. Kinda lines up with what I said earlier about forgetting how much people overseas like these films.
May 23, 20232 yr Author @jsdarkstar Funny little story just for you. My mother-in-law was over for dinner during the weekend, she's 88. We were outside on our deck and after dinner I started taking everything in and doing the dishes. I put Morning Dew Cornell '77 on so I had something to listen to while I did all the cleanup. Ole grandma got a little cold outside and came in just as that was starting. About 5 mins later I peeked in on her and saw her swaying gently and fully lost in all the sauce.
May 23, 20232 yr 4 hours ago, DrPhilly said: @jsdarkstar Funny little story just for you. My mother-in-law was over for dinner during the weekend, she's 88. We were outside on our deck and after dinner I started taking everything in and doing the dishes. I put Morning Dew Cornell '77 on so I had something to listen to while I did all the cleanup. Ole grandma got a little cold outside and came in just as that was starting. About 5 mins later I peeked in on her and saw her swaying gently and fully lost in all the sauce. Hilarious! Spoiler J/K, didn't read
May 23, 20232 yr 4 hours ago, DrPhilly said: @jsdarkstar Funny little story just for you. My mother-in-law was over for dinner during the weekend, she's 88. We were outside on our deck and after dinner I started taking everything in and doing the dishes. I put Morning Dew Cornell '77 on so I had something to listen to while I did all the cleanup. Ole grandma got a little cold outside and came in just as that was starting. About 5 mins later I peeked in on her and saw her swaying gently and fully lost in all the sauce. Weird way to say you banged your MIL
May 23, 20232 yr Author 40 minutes ago, 20dawk4life said: Weird way to say you banged your MIL She ain’t bad looking for an old lady
May 23, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, DrPhilly said: She ain’t bad looking for an old lady Good enough for a SI swimsuit edition ?
May 23, 20232 yr 7 hours ago, DrPhilly said: @jsdarkstar Funny little story just for you. My mother-in-law was over for dinner during the weekend, she's 88. We were outside on our deck and after dinner I started taking everything in and doing the dishes. I put Morning Dew Cornell '77 on so I had something to listen to while I did all the cleanup. Ole grandma got a little cold outside and came in just as that was starting. About 5 mins later I peeked in on her and saw her swaying gently and fully lost in all the sauce.
May 23, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, 20dawk4life said: When Rudy was in drag, Trump gave him a motorboat. The video is Gold.
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