May 18, 20223 yr 26 minutes ago, Toastrel said: Remember, the most important part of any mass killing is making sure you point the finger at an ideology or a side as the root cause. On 5/16/2022 at 6:54 AM, Toastrel said: His manifesto is basically word for word, what Tucker Carlson spews on Fox. Very first post on his supposed ideology in this thread...... HMM IT WAS YOU! it took all of 8 posts on the 1st page, and only your second post in the thread. 🤡 Self OWN.....
May 18, 20223 yr 22 minutes ago, TEW said: Is he? Genuinely curious on this. The USSR was very racially accepting as a government even in the face of Russian culture which I would agree has more than a bit of racism in it. Generally, the Soviet elite were not racists while the prols were the racists. Stalin rivaled Hitler when it came to ethnic cleansing. And he was happy to dispose of his ethnic collaborators, using them to round up and murder their own people before murdering them, just as the NSDAPs did with their Judenrat and Kapo collaborators. The Soviets deported and murdered millions of ppl because of their ethnicities. Poles, Germans, Ukrainians suffered in the greatest numbers but entire populations of Chechens, Kalmyks, Karachai and other Caucasians were shipped to Siberia or Kasakhstan, or murdered. The Holodomor in the 1930s mafde what's happening in Ukraine today look like child's play. And just as in Germany there were many "elites" running the show. The big cheese of the NKVD, Lavrenty Beria was an aristocrst. Others, like Nikolai Yezhov, lied about their class status or came from wealthy families, like his lover Filip Goloshchyokin, who were both executed for being gay. The Soviets were selectively egalitarian, just as the NSDAPs were selectively "socialist." They both were mass murdering regimes. The only difference was the Germans did most of their murdering during war time and the Soviets did more murdering during peace time. And while the Soviets let women serve in their armed forces, they also promoted rape as a tool of war.
May 18, 20223 yr 27 minutes ago, eaglegenius said: Stalin rivaled Hitler when it came to ethnic cleansing. And he was happy to dispose of his ethnic collaborators, using them to round up and murder their own people before murdering them, just as the NSDAPs did with their Judenrat and Kapo collaborators. The Soviets deported and murdered millions of ppl because of their ethnicities. Poles, Germans, Ukrainians suffered in the greatest numbers but entire populations of Chechens, Kalmyks, Karachai and other Caucasians were shipped to Siberia or Kasakhstan, or murdered. The Holodomor in the 1930s mafde what's happening in Ukraine today look like child's play. And just as in Germany there were many "elites" running the show. The big cheese of the NKVD, Lavrenty Beria was an aristocrst. Others, like Nikolai Yezhov, lied about their class status or came from wealthy families, like his lover Filip Goloshchyokin, who were both executed for being gay. The Soviets were selectively egalitarian, just as the NSDAPs were selectively "socialist." They both were mass murdering regimes. The only difference was the Germans did most of their murdering during war time and the Soviets did more murdering during peace time. And while the Soviets let women serve in their armed forces, they also promoted rape as a tool of war. Like you said, that was Stalin era. Putin was part of the late Soviet era, which was a lot different. You’ll get no argument from me that they were both mass murdering regimes, but the politics of the late USSR were not the same as the Stalin era.
May 18, 20223 yr Let's look at his ideology. He believes in White Replacement Theory. A theory espoused by White Supremacist Hate Groups and Fox News. It is A Right wing Fascist Theory. Not a left one. He is racist against Blacks and Jews. Mostly a Right Wing White Supremacist Hate Group Ideology. Yes some on the liberal left are Pro Palestinian but they don't want all Jews dead. See the difference? He is a White Supremacist. He believes whites are superior. This is a right wing belief system and is the basis for White Supremacist Hate Group ideology. He idolizes mass shooters in Pittsburgh and Australia. They both share the same political ideology. I find it ironic that Trumplican's are trying to blame this on left wing ideology.
May 18, 20223 yr In the opening pages of the compendium he posted online, Mr. Gendron was clear about his goal: He wished to radicalize others, and called on followers to join him in mounting similar attacks. He loved 4chan. A liberal forum. Hahaha.
May 18, 20223 yr 28 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said: Let's look at his ideology. He believes in White Replacement Theory. A theory espoused by White Supremacist Hate Groups and Fox News. It is A Right wing Fascist Theory. Not a left one. He is racist against Blacks and Jews. Mostly a Right Wing White Supremacist Hate Group Ideology. Yes some on the liberal left are Pro Palestinian but they don't want all Jews dead. See the difference? He is a White Supremacist. He believes whites are superior. This is a right wing belief system and is the basis for White Supremacist Hate Group ideology. He idolizes mass shooters in Pittsburgh and Australia. They both share the same political ideology. I find it ironic that Trumplican's are trying to blame this on left wing ideology. I find it hilarious that in his own words he describes himself to be Authoritarian Left. His words. This blows your minds. His words.
May 18, 20223 yr The Right's Violence Problem https://news.yahoo.com/rights-violence-problem-184823155.html Over the past decade, the Anti-Defamation League has counted about 450 U.S. murders committed by political extremists. Of these 450 killings, right-wing extremists committed about 75%. Islamic extremists were responsible for about 20%, and left-wing extremists were responsible for 4%. Nearly half of the murders were specifically tied to white supremacists. As this data shows, the American political right has a violence problem that has no equivalent on the left. And the 10 victims in Buffalo, New York, this past weekend are now part of this toll. "Right-wing extremist violence is our biggest threat,” Jonathan Greenblatt, the head of the ADL, has written. "The numbers don’t lie.” The pattern extends to violence less severe than murder, like the Jan. 6 attack on Congress. It also extends to the language from some Republican politicians — including Donald Trump — and conservative media figures that treats violence as a legitimate form of political expression. A much larger number of Republican officials do not use this language but also do not denounce it or punish politicians who do use it; Kevin McCarthy, the top House Republican, is a leading example. It is important to emphasize that not all extremist violence comes from the right — and that the precise explanation for any one attack can be murky, involving a mixture of ideology, mental illness, gun access and more. In the immediate aftermath of an attack, people are sometimes too quick to claim a direct cause and effect. But it is also incorrect to pretend that right-wing violence and left-wing violence are equivalent problems. Fears in Washington If you talk to members of Congress and their aides these days — especially off the record — you will often hear them mention their fears of violence being committed against them. Some Republican members of Congress have said that they were reluctant to vote for Trump’s impeachment or conviction partly because of the threats against other members who had already denounced him. House Republicans who voted for President Joe Biden’s infrastructure bill also received threats. Democrats say their offices receive a spike in phone calls and online messages threatening violence after they are criticized on conservative social media or cable television shows. People who oversee elections report similar problems. "One in six election officials have experienced threats because of their job,” the Brennan Center, a research group, reported this year. "Ranging from death threats that name officials’ young children to racist and gendered harassment, these attacks have forced election officials across the country to take steps like hiring personal security, fleeing their homes, and putting their children into counseling.” There is often overlap between these violent threats and white supremacist beliefs. White supremacy tends to treat people of color as un-American or even less than fully human, views that can make violence seem justifiable. The suspect in the Buffalo massacre evidently posted an online manifesto that discussed replacement theory, a racial conspiracy theory that Tucker Carlson promotes on his Fox News show. "History has taught us that what begins with words ends in far worse,” Rep. Liz Cheney, one of the few Republicans who has repeatedly and consistently denounced violence and talk of violence from the right, wrote on Twitter on Monday. "The House GOP leadership has enabled white nationalism, white supremacy, and antisemitism,” Cheney wrote, and called on Republican leaders to "renounce and reject these views and those who hold them.” A few other Republicans, like Sen. Mitt Romney, have taken a similar stance. But many other prominent Republicans have taken a more neutral stance or even embraced talk of violence. Some have spoken openly about violence as a legitimate political tool — and not just Trump, who has done so frequently. At the rally that preceded the Jan. 6 attack, Rep. Mo Brooks suggested the crowd should "start taking down names and kicking ass.” Before she was elected to Congress, Marjorie Taylor Greene supported the idea of executing Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi and other top Democrats. Rep. Paul Gosar once posted an animated video altered to depict himself killing Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and swinging swords at Biden. Rick Perry, a former Texas governor, once called the Federal Reserve "treasonous” and talked about treating its chair "pretty ugly.” During Greg Gianforte’s campaign for Montana’s House seat, he went so far as to assault a reporter who asked him a question he did not like; Gianforte won and has since become Montana’s governor. These Republicans have received no meaningful sanction from their party. McCarthy, the Republican leader in the House, has been especially solicitous of Brooks and other members who use violent imagery. This Republican comfort with violence is new. Republican leaders from past decades, such as Ronald Reagan, Bob Dole, Howard Baker and the Bushes, did not evoke violence. "In a stable democracy,” Steven Levitsky, a Harvard political scientist, said, "politicians unambiguously reject violence and unambiguously expel from their ranks anti-democratic forces.”
May 18, 20223 yr On 5/16/2022 at 8:08 PM, Paul852 said: Damn kz, you're garbage. That's no way for a fan of Train to act. Soylib seethes when confronted with a basic, easily verifiable statistic.
May 18, 20223 yr Author 17 hours ago, Gannan said: There's a lot of blurred lines between left and right. Lefties in terms of the economic left can definitely be racist and homophobic. Putin was (arguably still is) a communist at heart and is a racist. Che Guevara was a bigoted homophobe. Probably counter productive to try to pigeon hole psychos and sociopaths. The shooter's cause wasn't so much a left/right one, it was more of a Republican/Democrat one. White Replacement Theory is a very partisan concern. Republicans are worried that if there are too many non-white people that they'll lose elections and instead of trying to appeal to those voters, they just whine about and, in this guy's case, kill other races.
May 18, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, Ipiggles said: I find it hilarious that in his own words he describes himself to be Authoritarian Left. His words. This blows your minds. His words.
May 18, 20223 yr Author 7 minutes ago, Gannan said: The funny thing is that Ipiggles already knows this. He's the one that proudly proclaimed himself a social conservative/economic liberal.
May 18, 20223 yr 7 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: The funny thing is that Ipiggles already knows this. He's the one that proudly proclaimed himself a social conservative/economic liberal. you cant even get that right. Socially somewhat liberal, Fiscally conservative/ Conservative with Crime. I am more libertarian if anything. Less government. Trump is a complete idiot/ unpolished and yet somehow his policies were far better than what Biden has been doing the past 1 1/2 years for the entire country and all Americans? But your hyper partisan views distort your vision, and dont allow you to acknowledge the obvious to anyone who is openly objective about it.
May 18, 20223 yr Author Just now, Ipiggles said: you cant even get that right. Socially somewhat liberal, Fiscally conservative/ Conservative with Crime. I am more libertarian if anything. Less government. Trump is a complete idiot/ unpolished and yet somehow his policies were far better than what Biden has been doing the past 1 1/2 years for the entire country and all Americans. But your hypoer partisan views distort your vision, and donmt allow you to acknowledge the obvious to anyone who is openly objective about it. You're the one that posted it, dude. It was an article about how many in the Republican coalition are Socially Conservative/Economic Liberals (Authoritarian left). Don't puss out now.
May 18, 20223 yr 9 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: You're the one that posted it, dude. It was an article about how many in the Republican coalition are Socially Conservative/Economic Liberals (Authoritarian left). Don't puss out now. So I posted this article and claimed this is who I am? Or did I post it as information? (hell I dont even remember posting such an article) Do you know the difference? My views have not changed. I have not moved one way or the other. I am nothing if not consistent
May 18, 20223 yr 25 minutes ago, Ipiggles said: So I posted this article and claimed this is who I am? Or did I post it as information? (hell I dont even remember posting such an article) Do you know the difference? My views have not changed. I have not moved one way or the other. I am nothing if not consistent Vanns right now, scurrying through hundreds of my posts trying to find the alledged article, that I said represents who I am.
May 18, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, Kz! said: Soylib seethes when confronted with a basic, easily verifiable statistic. I could never seethe at you, buddy
May 18, 20223 yr Author 54 minutes ago, Ipiggles said: Vanns right now, scurrying through hundreds of my posts trying to find the alledged article, that I said represents who I am. Sorry to disappoint you, 4D Stalker, but I've been in a meeting. I'm not going through months of you posting boring tweets misplaced in the Political Pics thread (you're no Greenskeeper). But we both know you posted it and then went on some stupid rant copy-and-pasted from Tucker's nightly question-asking session.
May 18, 20223 yr Just now, VanHammersly said: Sorry to disappoint you, 4D Stalker, but I've been in a meeting. I'm not going through months of you posting boring tweets misplaced in the Political Pics thread (you're no Greenskeeper). But we both know you posted it and then went on some stupid rant copy-and-pasted from Tucker's nightly question-asking session. Prove it- or it's all lies. Which would make you a liar. (Not hard to fathom, you are a Biden supporter)
May 18, 20223 yr 6 minutes ago, Ipiggles said: Prove it- or it's all lies. Which would make you a liar. (Not hard to fathom, you are a Biden supporter) Oh come on The self awareness can't be THAT lacking.
May 18, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, Paul852 said: Oh come on The self awareness can't be THAT lacking. while I am not beyond a fib once and a while, you'd be hard pressed to catch me in a number of outright lies. I have no problem admitting when I am wrong, or make a mistake. That does happen. But outright lies like Vanns just did.. Not my style. I may troll a bit here and there, but I dont outright lie. No need to.
May 19, 20223 yr It was the "Insurrection" I tell ya!! https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/05/17/jjoe-biden-connects-buffalo-mass-shooting-to-january-6/ Joe Biden Connects Buffalo Mass Shooting to January 6
May 20, 20223 yr ‘It Was Not a Joke’: Buffalo Massacre Suspect Shared Five Months’ Worth of Plans with Group 30 Minutes Before Attack — No One Alerted Authorities https://news.yahoo.com/not-joke-buffalo-massacre-suspect-123000787.html I wonder how many puss-bags were invited and just stood back and watched. Pathetic.
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