June 17, 20223 yr 12 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said: The new deal was some of the worst legislation in us history. So is the Red New Deal if your goal is to ever get elected in a western democracy. And it was written by a pretty mainstream Republican Senator, not a fringe dingbat in the House.
June 17, 20223 yr 6 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said: Disability is about doing the job you had not just any job He said he can’t work anymore. Clearly he can, even if it’s in a different job.
June 17, 20223 yr This is a great platform for the gop. It ensures old people won’t vote for them. Go with that. Alienating women and old people is a bold strategy.
June 18, 20223 yr 6 hours ago, EaglesRocker97 said: This has been the Republican Party's wet dream for ages: They don't care about you, and they want you to know how much they don't care about you. Well, to be fair, getting rid of social security would actually be the best thing for everyone, especially lower income workers.
June 18, 20223 yr 4 hours ago, TEW said: He said he can’t work anymore. Clearly he can, even if it’s in a different job. You have no idea if thats true. Hardly a simple matter. Theres a reason such SS hearing have a federal job expert present to advise
June 18, 20223 yr 18 hours ago, SPIDER-MAN said: This news just makes me sick to my stomach. I'm 47, can no longer work anymore and have been on Disability and Medicare for 18 years. The most disgusting thing about this is there are idiots who will vote for the people who want to take away their retirement. If you are well enough to post on EMB there is a desk job you can be doing at least part time 19 hours ago, SPIDER-MAN said: This news just makes me sick to my stomach. I'm 47, can no longer work anymore and have been on Disability and Medicare for 18 years. The most disgusting thing about this is there are idiots who will vote for the people who want to take away their retirement.
June 18, 20223 yr 23 hours ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said: If you are well enough to post on EMB there is a desk job you can be doing at least part time Yeah, I'm sure there are lots of businesses scrambling for part time employees who can type 12 words a minute and requires multiple medical accomodations.
June 18, 20223 yr 18 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: Yeah, I'm sure there are lots of businesses scrambling for part time employees who can type 12 words a minute and require multiple medical accomodations. There probably aren’t because in order to hire most of them you probably need to do things like install a $100k elevator or hire a $200k ‘diversity and inclusion’ specialist … so once again blame the democrats
June 18, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said: There probably aren’t because in order to hire most of them you probably need to do things like install a $100k elevator or hire a $200k ‘diversity and inclusion’ specialist … so once again blame the democrats Yes because without democrats, disabled people wouldn't need elevators. That is a solid point I hadn't thought of.
June 18, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: Yes because without democrats, disabled people wouldn't need elevators. That is a solid point I hadn't thought of. They might have to demean themselves by asking to be carried up the stairs, or being forced to stay in the first floor… it’s kind of amazing how often the politicians ‘solution’ to a problem involves spending someone else’s money, even when there are no cost solutions that don’t involve bossing someone around
June 18, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said: They might have to demean themselves by asking to be carried up the stairs, or being forced to stay in the first floor… it’s kind of amazing how often the politicians ‘solution’ to a problem involves spending someone else’s money, even when there are no cost solutions that don’t involve bossing someone around Yet another good point. Businesses would definitely be more inclined to hire significantly handicapped people if all they had to do was carry them up and down the stairs every day. Problem solved.
June 18, 20223 yr 19 hours ago, VanHammersly said: So is the Red New Deal if your goal is to ever get elected in a western democracy. And it was written by a pretty mainstream Republican Senator, not a fringe dingbat in the House. The goal of legislation should not be to get reelected… thats how they buy entitled fearful morons like yourself
June 18, 20223 yr Just now, ToastJenkins said: The goal of legislation should not be to get reelected… thats how they buy entitled fearful morons like yourself That’s how democracy works, dumb***. Enjoy your ideologically pure fantasy world that will never exist.
June 18, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, DEagle7 said: Yet another good point. Businesses would definitely be more inclined to hire significantly handicapped people if all they had to do was carry them up and down the stairs every day. Problem solved. Now as remote work becomes more common that can shift Just now, VanHammersly said: That’s how democracy works, dumb***. Enjoy your ideologically pure fantasy world that will never exist. No thats how entitled children work
June 18, 20223 yr Just now, ToastJenkins said: Van making tew’s case for cutting back voting… be funny if it werent so pathetic No one cares about TEWs dystopian pretend world.
June 18, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, DEagle7 said: Yet another good point. Businesses would definitely be more inclined to hire significantly handicapped people if all they had to do was carry them up and down the stairs every day. Problem solved. And things might actually change if shallow wise cracks like these didn’t actually make pass for wisdom with the democrats
June 18, 20223 yr 18 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said: And things might actually change if shallow wise cracks like these didn’t actually make pass for wisdom with the democrats Oh I'm sorry, were you expecting a more thoughtful retort to your "more disabled people could get hired if Democrats just let people fireman carry them up stairs" argument? Sorry man if you want wisdom you gotta bring something to the table that is a smidge less batshit stupid. 49 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said: Now as remote work becomes more common that can shift True, although if the disability truly impedes the ability to type/communicate/process it will still significantly impede their ability to get hired. Or at least hired for any kind of salary that could remotely approach supporting them outside of significant charity.
June 18, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, DEagle7 said: Oh I'm sorry, were you expecting a more thoughtful retort to your "more disabled people could get hired if Democrats just let people fireman carry them up stairs" argument? Sorry man if you want wisdom you gotta bring something to the table that is a smidge less batshit stupid. Once again, shallow wise cracks and deliberate obfuscation is all you have. You could make anything good and holy sound like crap and vice versa. for you there’s no way to help anyone except by passing a law and giving somebody money anyone who attempts to offer you such solution, you find ways it won’t work… any solution that doesn’t work for everyone is used as an example for why none of my solutions will work for anyone, when in fact a menu of solutions may work for most, and work a lot better than your solution which always involves taking someone else’s money
June 19, 20223 yr 5 hours ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said: Once again, shallow wise cracks and deliberate obfuscation is all you have. You could make anything good and holy sound like crap and vice versa. for you there’s no way to help anyone except by passing a law and giving somebody money anyone who attempts to offer you such solution, you find ways it won’t work… any solution that doesn’t work for everyone is used as an example for why none of my solutions will work for anyone, when in fact a menu of solutions may work for most, and work a lot better than your solution which always involves taking someone else’s money The "solutions" you offered we're absolutely moronic and therefore mocked. Again if you don't want "wise cracks" then maybe don't try to trivialize someone with a severe neurological disorder's ability to work, then have nothing to back up that argument beyond "you should ask people to carry you up stairs". Dumbarse.
June 19, 20223 yr I think if we're all being honest with ourselves, we'd agree that Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid (in their current forms) are all doing as much damage as they are helping. But because we've allowed the fringe elements of society like MAGA and leftist extremism to take root and become dominant political platforms, we've effectively sabotaged our ability to have serious conversations about things that actually matter. I've voiced this opinion before that we need to seriously thinking about coming up with a grand economic bargain with some of the younger, working generations and convince them that its in their best interest to untangle themselves from entitlement programs while keeping them financially whole with near-term refunds But, back in reality, we're stuck on two retarded halves of the country unable to get past Donald F'ing Trump and whether we need to legislate for pronouns.
June 19, 20223 yr 26 minutes ago, mayanh8 said: I think if we're all being honest with ourselves, we'd agree that Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid (in their current forms) are all doing as much damage as they are helping. But because we've allowed the fringe elements of society like MAGA and leftist extremism to take root and become dominant political platforms, we've effectively sabotaged our ability to have serious conversations about things that actually matter. I've voiced this opinion before that we need to seriously thinking about coming up with a grand economic bargain with some of the younger, working generations and convince them that its in their best interest to untangle themselves from entitlement programs while keeping them financially whole with near-term refunds But, back in reality, we're stuck on two retarded halves of the country unable to get past Donald F'ing Trump and whether we need to legislate for pronouns. A reasonable take, but I fear that most Americans, left or right, live for today and spend what they got. Damn few have the lifelong discipline to provide for their own retirements.
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