17 hours ago, DEagle7 said:

The "solutions" you offered we're absolutely moronic and therefore mocked. Again if you don't want "wise cracks" then maybe don't try to trivialize someone with a severe neurological disorder's ability to work, then have nothing to back up that argument beyond "you should ask people to carry you up stairs". Dumbarse. 

your only solution to anything is call them a dope and spend their money.  Once again, I make suggestions which may work for some people and not for others

On 6/17/2022 at 4:41 PM, TEW said:

Typing means you can work, yes. There are literal quadriplegics who work. Blind people who work.

Unless you have some kind of catastrophic brain damage, I don’t see why you can’t work.

How do you know he can without seeing his day-to-day life?

Not gone near long enough....

🤣

2 hours ago, GA4M said:

How do know he can without seeing his day-to-day life?

What scenario do you suppose could have made him able to type on here but not work?

11 hours ago, mayanh8 said:

I think if we're all being honest with ourselves, we'd agree that Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid (in their current forms) are all doing as much damage as they are helping.

But because we've allowed the fringe elements of society like MAGA and leftist extremism to take root and become dominant political platforms, we've effectively sabotaged our ability to have serious conversations about things that actually matter. 

I've voiced this opinion before that we need to seriously thinking about coming up with a grand economic bargain with some of the younger, working generations and convince them that its in their best interest to untangle themselves from entitlement programs while keeping them financially whole with near-term refunds 

But, back in reality, we're stuck on two retarded halves of the country unable to get past Donald F'ing Trump and whether we need to legislate for pronouns.

 

11 hours ago, TomatoPie said:

A reasonable take, but I fear that most Americans, left or right, live for today and spend what they got. Damn few have the lifelong discipline to provide for their own retirements.

Median family income for 2020:  $67,521 

https://www.census.gov/library/publications/2021/demo/p60-273.html
 

Average expenses for 1-5 family members: 

Average monthly expenses by household size

The average monthly expenses among all households totaled $5,253, or $63,036 annually. That's up 3% from 2018.

Average monthly expenses for one person:

Average monthly expenses for one person totaled $3,189, or $38,266 annually.

Average monthly expenses for a family of 2:

$5,572, or $66,861 annually.

Average monthly expenses for a family of 3:

$6,178, or $74,134 annually.

Average monthly expenses for a family of 4:

$7,095, or $85,139 annually.

Average monthly expenses for a family of 5:

$6,780, or $81,361 annually. Yes, we do note that a family of five has lower monthly expenses than a family of four, according to the BLS. Such is the nature of statistical estimates.

https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/finance/monthly-expenses-single-person-family

 

Current median family income in the United States is only enough to support a family of 2. That’s just paying average bills, not planning for retirement or having a kid. The majority of Americans are scraping by month to month without the ability to plan for retirement.

 

We can beech and moan about inflation, which does suck, and may cause a bit of a recession.

Our next major financial crisis will be 60-80 year olds who can’t be productive workers anymore trying to retire on 300k or less in a 401k. It will start in the next 10 years…

On 6/17/2022 at 2:42 PM, SPIDER-MAN said:

This news just makes me sick to my stomach. I'm 47, can no longer work anymore and have been on Disability and Medicare for 18 years. The most disgusting thing about this is there are idiots who will vote for the people who want to take away their retirement.

 

The GOP supports eliminating SS and Medicare. They have been trying for Decades. 

IN 1981 Ronald Regan cut funding for Social Security. 

 

10 hours ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

What scenario do you suppose could have made him able to type on here but not work?

There could be many things. but if it meets the guidelines then it gets approved. maybe PM him and ask the reason.

1 hour ago, GA4M said:

There could be many things. but if it meets the guidelines then it gets approved. maybe PM him and ask the reason.

You can’t think of even one

14 hours ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

What scenario do you suppose could have made him able to type on here but not work?

Typing on here doesn't matter. It could take them an hour to write and finish a post filled with grammar mistakes, spelling errors, and flawed logic. In the end, none of it would matter because it is a public board.

If they had to type for a living, they would have to be conscious of sentence structure, spelling mistakes, and grammar. They would have to finish typing whatever it is within a specific time. What if they have crippling anxiety issues that deal with deadlines? That is just typing in terms of data entry, which most of those jobs are either done with cheaper labor overseas or AI nowadays.

Writing is an entirely different animal. 98% of the people that post on this board would not be able to write professionally. 

12 minutes ago, pallidrone said:

Typing on here doesn't matter. It could take them an hour to write and finish a post filled with grammar mistakes, spelling errors, and flawed logic. In the end, none of it would matter because it is a public board.

If they had to type for a living, they would have to be conscious of sentence structure, spelling mistakes, and grammar. They would have to finish typing whatever it is within a specific time. What if they have crippling anxiety issues that deal with deadlines? That is just typing in terms of data entry, which most of those jobs are either done with cheaper labor overseas or AI nowadays.

Writing is an entirely different animal. 98% of the people that post on this board would not be able to write professionally. 

Yup. If you can't type quickly and accurately, let alone with completely unimpeded processing ability, the chances of anyone being willing to pay you a livable salary (let alone health insurance benefits) are approximately zero. Being able to crap post on a sports message board is an incredibly poor marker for employability.

15 hours ago, jsdarkstar said:

IN 1981 Ronald Regan cut funding for Social Security.

 

The Republican playbook for a longtime now has been to intentionally make these kinds of programs insolvent, or at the very least, make the problem worse instead of fixing it, so that they can point at the program and convince the rubes that this is the problem for your economic woes, while all along, it's really been the result of internal sabotage. They just tried the same thing with USPS: Undermine the program so you can leave the American people holding the bag and rip public services out from underneath them. The last 50 years of Republican politics has been a masterclass in getting people to vote against their own interests.

7 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Yup. If you can't type quickly and accurately, let alone with completely unimpeded processing ability, the chances of anyone being willing to pay you a livable salary (let alone health insurance benefits) are approximately zero. Being able to crap post on a sports message board is an incredibly poor marker for employability.

Exactly. I mean look at the title of this thread. It says GQP instead of GOP and people think that the OP could easily get a job typing.

No offense to the OP of course. It happens to all of us. Just pointing out the lunacy of the logic.

3 hours ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

You can’t think of even one

Here's one scenario. It took him two hours to type that post. 

48 minutes ago, pallidrone said:

Exactly. I mean look at the title of this thread. It says GQP instead of GOP and people think that the OP could easily get a job typing.

 

Maybe it was a typo, or maybe it was a clever play on words...

 

 

1 hour ago, pallidrone said:

Typing on here doesn't matter. It could take them an hour to write and finish a post filled with grammar mistakes, spelling errors, and flawed logic. In the end, none of it would matter because it is a public board.

If they had to type for a living, they would have to be conscious of sentence structure, spelling mistakes, and grammar. They would have to finish typing whatever it is within a specific time. What if they have crippling anxiety issues that deal with deadlines? That is just typing in terms of data entry, which most of those jobs are either done with cheaper labor overseas or AI nowadays.

Writing is an entirely different animal. 98% of the people that post on this board would not be able to write professionally. 

That is just typing in terms of data entry, which most of those jobs are either done with cheaper labor overseas …

So that’s the thing.  You’re right, nobody might pay him the ($15?) minimum wage to type.  But you can’t tell me nobody would pay him (let’s make up a number) $3.00/ hr to type or do some data entry.  That would allow him to take twice as long to type as a $6.00 worker so that he could do the job for the equal amount.

And that’s the basic problem with government programs like these.  You’re either on the dole or you’re not.  There’s no in between.  He either gets his $1000 government check every two weeks and does $0 of work or he gets nothing and can’t work at all.  Nobody ever tries to figure out how he can do his $3/hr job and yeah maybe get something from the government, but maybe only $800 a week versus the hypothetical $1000 I just mentioned 
 

 

Just now, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

That is just typing in terms of data entry, which most of those jobs are either done with cheaper labor overseas …

So that’s the thing.  You’re right, nobody might pay him the ($15?) minimum wage to type.  But you can’t tell me nobody would pay him (let’s make up a number) $3.00/ hr to type or do some data entry.  That would allow him to take twice as long to type as a $6.00 worker so that he could do the job for the equal amount.

And that’s the basic problem with government programs like these.  You’re either on the dole or you’re not.  There’s no in between.  He either gets his $1000 government check every two weeks and does $0 of work or he gets nothing and can’t work at all.  Nobody ever tries to figure out how he can do his $3/hr job and yeah maybe get something from the government, but maybe only $800 a week versus the hypothetical $1000 I just mentioned 
 

 

No, they wouldn't. It is not just the price per hour, but it is also about the amount of correct data entry that is done in that timeframe.

If they could not hit those milestones, regardless of the price per hour, then they will not be hired. On top of that, it is about accuracy. If they paid someone X per hour and those entries were riddled with mistakes, then they would have to pay triple that amount to have someone go in and fix all of that. It would have to be fast and accurate from the get-go.

Then you are not accounting for the hours upon hours of time spent in front of a screen to make very little money. What if they have epilepsy and prolonged screen time causes them to have seizures? 

Just because you can type a few words on a keyboard or on your phone, doesn't mean that you can just type things up for a living.

3 hours ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

You can’t think of even one

So, say he's missing both legs and his job was being a roofer? he can't do that job without legs but there's much more to it really. 

15 minutes ago, GA4M said:

So, say he's missing both legs and his job was being a roofer? he can't do that job without legs but there's much more to it really. 

Yeah, but he is able to write a few words on EMB. That means he is totally qualified for a career change into a data entry clerk or who knows maybe a modern-day Jonathan Swift!

Just like all those people that use Twitter can easily become a journalist in the future.

Who in the F would work for $3/hr outside a sweat shop?

32 minutes ago, pallidrone said:

No, they wouldn't. It is not just the price per hour, but it is also about the amount of correct data entry that is done in that timeframe.

If they could not hit those milestones, regardless of the price per hour, then they will not be hired. On top of that, it is about accuracy. If they paid someone X per hour and those entries were riddled with mistakes, then they would have to pay triple that amount to have someone go in and fix all of that. It would have to be fast and accurate from the get-go.

Then you are not accounting for the hours upon hours of time spent in front of a screen to make very little money. What if they have epilepsy and prolonged screen time causes them to have seizures? 

Just because you can type a few words on a keyboard or on your phone, doesn't mean that you can just type things up for a living.

Worst case scenario then…

You think they can’t at least park him at the entrance of a wal mart and have him greet people?

Just now, DEagle7 said:

Who in the F would work for $3/hr?

Disabled people who can’t do any better

7 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Who in the F would work for $3/hr outside a sweat shop?

I never said sweat shop, you did.

Hes not working for $3/hr though in my example, he’s working for $3/hr plus $800/week from the government 

1 minute ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

I never said sweat shop, you did.

Hes not working for $3/hr though in my example, he’s working for $3/hr plus $800/week from the government 

So in your case it would be 6 bucks an hour and 400 bucks a week from the goverment?

I'm in no way saying there's not a huge amount of waste. look at what we all pay to for illegals to walk into hospitals, run up a huge bill then not pay a dime. I never hear anyone complaining about that though. 

Just now, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

I never said sweat shop, you did.

Hes not working for $3/hr though in my example, he’s working for $3/hr plus $800/week from the government 

I said sweatshop because that's who pays $3/hr. Those jobs don't exist in the US and for good reason.