June 23, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said: I guess I like the protection of a right to self defense but I still think the 2nd only explicitly restricts the federal government, not the states, so I disagree there… You can "think" whatever you want, but... Quote This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.[10]
June 23, 20223 yr 8 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: You can "think" whatever you want, but... Let me help you This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.[10] you can think whatever you want of course
June 23, 20223 yr Just now, Seventy_Yard_FG said: Let me help you This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.[10] Thanks for further proving my point. Good talk!
June 23, 20223 yr Just now, EaglesRocker97 said: Thanks for further proving my point. Good talk! So if a law isn’t pursuant to the constitution, it doesn’t matter who passed it, state or congress
June 23, 20223 yr 10 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said: So if a law isn’t pursuant to the constitution, it doesn’t matter who passed it, state or congress
June 23, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, 20dawk4life said: I mean, pff, sorry for reading the whole sentence 😳
June 23, 20223 yr 7 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: 70 yard fg thinks federal laws don’t apply to states? Only ones that aren’t pursuant to the constitution
June 23, 20223 yr 6 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said: Only ones that aren’t pursuant to the constitution Yep, you lost me.
June 23, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: Yep, you lost me. This is why we can’t have nice things
June 23, 20223 yr First off I’m not an attorney and I don’t have any legal training so I’m not claiming to be an expert. But there’s lots of federal laws that are under federal jurisdiction. Child porn for example.
June 23, 20223 yr 11 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said: Only ones that aren’t pursuant to the constitution …and the final arbiter is?
June 23, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: First off I’m not an attorney and I don’t have any legal training so I’m not claiming to be an expert. But there’s lots of federal laws that are under federal jurisdiction. Child porn for example. Abraham Lincoln taught himself law, so I’m not sure what legal training you think qualifies a person, but I think it’s enough to read the laws, which thanks to technology don’t require a trip to a library any more. I would have to check article I but I suspect that congress does not have the power to make child porn a crime, or perhaps it’s only a piracy subject to the piracy clause, I’m not sure but yes, over the last 80 or 100 years congress has overstepped and nobody has been able to stop this
June 23, 20223 yr 40 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said: Let me help you This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.[10] you can think whatever you want of course So you think states could ban free speech, or state police don’t have to abide by the 4th amendment? Come on dude — the entire point of the constitution is that it supersedes everything else.
June 23, 20223 yr Just now, 20dawk4life said: Guarded by? Military I suppose… militia… I suppose you’re thinking of the Supreme Court, but then who punished them if they contradict the constitution? Congress I suppose, so then you might say congress is the arbiter, but then who punished them when they contradict the constitution? … we could go round and round on this forever, but I like to think it is philosophically and linguistically possible for everyone who takes the time to read the laws to agree on what it says, even if they don’t agree on what they would change it to if they had their personal druthers Just now, TEW said: So you think states could ban free speech, or state police don’t have to abide by the 4th amendment? Come on dude — the entire point of the constitution is that it supersedes everything else. I have taken the time to read almost every state constitution. I think they all have their own "mini” fourth amendment and speech clause
June 23, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said: The constitution Nope. The interpreters/highestScholars/knowers of the Constitution in SCOTUS. You know that.
June 23, 20223 yr Theoretically a state could hold a state constitutional convention to abolish a fourth amendment… but then that’s where the federal clause that the united states shall gaurantee to every state a "republican form of government " comes into play… and when you abolish certain rights the states start looking very not republican
June 23, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said: I have taken the time to read almost every state constitution. I think they all have their own "mini” fourth amendment and speech clause But hypothetically, a state could make an amendment to the constitution to ban republicans from airing political ads, or seize all Trump supporters guns, or ban all white men from voting? Come on dude…
June 23, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, DrPhilly said: Nope. The interpreters/highestScholars/knowers of the Constitution in SCOTUS. You know that. So you don’t think people can know the constitution unless they’ve gone to Harvard or Yale
June 23, 20223 yr There is the 10th amendment but it sounds like 70 yard field goal thinks the 10th amendment applies to every law ever
June 23, 20223 yr Just now, TEW said: But hypothetically, a state could make an amendment to the constitution to ban republicans from airing political ads, or seize all Trump supporters guns, or ban all white men from voting? Come on dude… 14th amendment…equal protection applies to states. On the subject of ads, choose a state and I will tell you the laws… go on
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