5 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

The money isn’t actually for gun violence prevention, it’s for political cover

it's the most they could get the repugs to agree to. 

"Bi-Partisan" lol

More like Congress ran out of seats for Democrats. By the end, weren't 1 in 5 people in the Soviet Union informants?

1 hour ago, toolg said:

It will incentivize states to give to access juvenile records that are currently sealed, if that young adult wishes to purchase a firearm. Instead of giving the youth benefit of doubt because the records are sealed, let's find out if this person may act out violently if they want a firearm. Many mass shooters are under 21 years old, and we know brains don't fully mature until they're older in their 20s.

when do those documents usually become unsealed?

9 minutes ago, BFit said:

when do those documents usually become unsealed?

I always thought after a certain time they just become deleted/removed. That's a lot to store

 

40 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I always thought after a certain time they just become deleted/removed. That's a lot to store

so, they are granting access to files for a 3 year age period, and then closing them back up and throwing them out after that? sounds like political common sence.......

2 hours ago, BFit said:

when do those documents usually become unsealed?

In some cases, never.

1 hour ago, BFit said:

so, they are granting access to files for a 3 year age period, and then closing them back up and throwing them out after that? sounds like political common sence.......

Yes. But adult records will start accumulating at age 18.

So theoretically if the kid was a hellian, but got his act together before he turned 18, has a clean adult record, by age 22 he can purchase a firearm without rehashing all that history as a juvenile. That sounds like how it's going to work.

31 minutes ago, toolg said:

In some cases, never.

Yes. But adult records will start accumulating at age 18.

So theoretically if the kid was a hellian, but got his act together before he turned 18, has a clean adult record, by age 22 he can purchase a firearm without rehashing all that history as a juvenile. That sounds like how it's going to work.

thats kind of a scary precedent if you think about it. now there is a law on the books that helps define an amount of time that a person can be seperated from a crime and still buy a firearm. i think a good lawyer could use that to get a judge to rule that since his client has a clean record for 15 years, but had an aggravated assault charge at age 19, that he shouldnt be barred from purchasing a firearm.

5 hours ago, toolg said:

It will incentivize states to give to access juvenile records that are currently sealed, if that young adult wishes to purchase a firearm. Instead of giving the youth benefit of doubt because the records are sealed, let's find out if this person may act out violently if they want a firearm. Many mass shooters are under 21 years old, and we know brains don't fully mature until they're older in their 20s.

So it’s racist then, since black and Hispanic youths are over represented in juvenile records.

16 minutes ago, TEW said:

So it’s racist then, since black and Hispanic youths are over represented in juvenile records.

did you know that the original laws pertaining to carry licenses were originally intended to deny blacks their right to carry a firearm once they became full citizens?

5 minutes ago, BFit said:

did you know that the original laws pertaining to carry licenses were originally intended to deny blacks their right to carry a firearm once they became full citizens?

Yup.

25 minutes ago, TEW said:

Yup.

its funny how some people want to complain about laws with racist roots, but never include these laws....

Looking at the numbers and A LOT of active shooters were on SSRIs. Like over half. 

 

A side affect of SSRIs is suicidal or homicidal thoughts. 

I kinda want this to pass just so SCOTUS can overturn it 

Republicans only agreed to this because they heard from their constituents that something needs to be done. Its about time. The history shows that those that voted for this will be primaried by the NRA, but the incumbents will do well to retain their power. It's better than nothing and is a step in the right direction. Hopefully the mental health part of this bill will have an impact. I know it will against the wife beaters. 

Let's keep it real, most people want to see the age limit raised to 21. It's a no brainer. But will take a different Congress to get there. 

 

13 hours ago, mr_hunt said:

it's the most they could get the repugs to agree to. 

Where is your shotgun these days?

14 hours ago, jsdarkstar said:

Republicans only agreed to this because they heard from their constituents that something needs to be done. Its about time. The history shows that those that voted for this will be primaried by the NRA, but the incumbents will do well to retain their power. It's better than nothing and is a step in the right direction. Hopefully the mental health part of this bill will have an impact. I know it will against the wife beaters. 

Let's keep it real, most people want to see the age limit raised to 21. It's a no brainer. But will take a different Congress to get there. 

 

If you have to pay taxes, register for the draft, can be charged as an adult with a crime, receive the death penalty and be handed an automatic weapon and go to war then you should be allowed to buy a handgun, rifle six pack and a carton of cigarettes. Period. 

1 hour ago, iladelphxx said:

If you have to pay taxes, register for the draft, can be charged as an adult with a crime, receive the death penalty and be handed an automatic weapon and go to war then you should be allowed to buy a handgun, rifle six pack and a carton of cigarettes. Period. 

They can buy other guns, just not semi automatic rifles. Typical Republican response, as if there is no other gun than an AR-15. 

1 hour ago, jsdarkstar said:

They can buy other guns, just not semi automatic rifles. Typical Republican response, as if there is no other gun than an AR-15. 

No. 

1 hour ago, jsdarkstar said:

They can buy other guns, just not semi automatic rifles. Typical Republican response, as if there is no other gun than an AR-15. 

No..... They can't buy handguns of any kind, either. 

I'm not a Republican, by the way. 

If you're an adult, you're an adult.    Period. 

4 hours ago, jsdarkstar said:

They can buy other guns, just not semi automatic rifles. Typical Republican response, as if there is no other gun than an AR-15. 

They can only buy rifles. They can't, however, buy any pistol, be it semi automatic, single action or single shot. They can buy semi automatic long guns though. If you deny them of that, you deny them of many popular hunting rifles and shotguns. 

On 6/24/2022 at 4:39 PM, Bill said:

Looking at the numbers and A LOT of active shooters were on SSRIs. Like over half. 

 

A side affect of SSRIs is suicidal or homicidal thoughts. 

Bunch of limp Ds mad they can't nut.

It was signed

Mentally ill can still by an AR-15 in Texas. 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-19-allegedly-threatened-mass-shooting-at-amazon-facility-called-uvalde-shooter-an-idol-180654587.html

Man, 19, allegedly threatened mass shooting at Amazon facility, called Uvalde shooter an 'idol'

Police in San Antonio arrested a 19-year-old man Monday after he allegedly told a co-worker at an Amazon warehouse that he planned to carry out a mass shooting at the facility.

Rodolfo Valdivia Aceves was taken into custody "without incident,” according to police, and has been charged with making terroristic threats.

"Based on information gathered, an employee of the location heard the suspect claiming he was going to do a mass shooting at this place of business,” a synopsis of the incident provided to Yahoo News by Officer Ricardo Guzman of the San Antonio Police Department said. "Credible information to support the threat was developed during the investigation by Homicide detectives.”

Aceves had reportedly told a female co-worker last Friday — after a fire alarm went off and employees evacuated the building — that it would be a good idea for someone to pull the fire alarm to have workers exit the building in case of a mass shooting. He later allegedly said he planned to carry one out, according to local station KSAT-TV. The co-worker didn’t tell anyone about the threat Friday because she said she was afraid of Aceves and feared he would retaliate, but she changed her mind Monday and told her managers after becoming increasingly worried that Aceves would carry out his plan. 

The woman said Aceves revered the Uvalde shooter — an 18-year-old gunman who last month killed 19 children and two teachers — and called him an "idol.” She added that Aceves had recently said he was "tired of living” and had purchased an AR-style rifle.

Aceves’s father later told investigators that his son has a history of mental illness, had stopped taking his medication years ago and had spent time in a mental health facility on two occasions when he was 16. Family members were worried when they learned he had purchased a gun. (Federal background checks conducted in Texas do not flag mental health admittance for juveniles.)

The arrest comes just days after President Biden signed into law the first major federal gun safety legislation in nearly 30 years, which helps states create and execute crisis intervention programs and closes a loophole in domestic violence law.

"Time is of the essence. Lives will be saved,” Biden said at the bill’s signing. "How many times have you heard that: ‘Just do something, for God’s sake, just do something.’”

F’ing sick