March 28, 20232 yr 7 minutes ago, Shepard Wong said: I’ve given up saying this to the regulars but since you are newish here, there is no value in debating the dishonest and/or intellectually disabled. Save your time. you mean shmegma, lynched, & kkkz aren't going to change their mind? like, ever?
March 28, 20232 yr 40 minutes ago, Bill said: They’re not almost always an AR-15. For example, the VT shooter used pistols. I'm not sure one example completely disputes "almost always". If the number is above 90% wouldn't you say "almost always" applies?
March 28, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, mr_hunt said: you mean shmegma, lynched, & kkkz aren't going to change their mind? like, ever? What do you mean? Zuker changes his mind on when it's appropriate to politicize a situation all the time.
March 28, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, Paul852 said: I'm not sure one example completely disputes "almost always". If the number is above 90% wouldn't you say "almost always" applies? there was that 1 mass knife attack too, so.
March 28, 20232 yr 7 minutes ago, Arthur Jackson said: More about the source than you, but I get what you're saying i mean, i think we all know that banning 1 specific type of firearm isn't going to change much...if anything. it's a complicated issue with a lot of potential strategies to help...more thorough universal background checks that include mental heath histories, red flag laws, better mental healthcare overall...possibly things like restricting magazine capacities, maybe requiring some sort of training /certification in order to purchase a firearm, even more thoughts & prayers, etc. instead, you have some folks saying that more guns would help prevent these shootings...even though statistics have shown that where there are more guns, there are more gun deaths. none of us are changing the mind of those folks.
March 28, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Bill said: They’re not almost always an AR-15. For example, the VT shooter used pistols.
March 28, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, mr_hunt said: the numbers are the numbers. it doesn't really matter if you like them or not. It matters if you don’t know how to understand them.
March 28, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, lynched1 said: I can play this game. Which ones? Where are they at? The majority of mass shootings are being done by Trump loving, white supremacists. Florida and Pittsburgh for starters. Just read this thread. Start at pg. 1.
March 28, 20232 yr 39 minutes ago, Paul852 said: I'm not sure one example completely disputes "almost always". If the number is above 90% wouldn't you say "almost always" applies? The number no greater than 29%. So no, I wouldn’t say that.
March 28, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, Bill said: The number no greater than 29%. So no, I wouldn’t say that. Yeah, he made it pretty clear he was talking about school/concert type of shootings. Thanks for the above info though.
March 28, 20232 yr 7 minutes ago, Paul852 said: Yeah, he made it pretty clear he was talking about school/concert type of shootings. Thanks for the above info though. Extrapolate the data.
March 28, 20232 yr A 1963 ad for an AR-15. And yet even though they were commercially available from that time, mass shootings didn’t start until the late 80s.
March 28, 20232 yr This is where we’re at a 9yr old knows to pull fire alarm. It’s insane. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11912233/PICTURED-Hero-schoolgirl-9-died-trying-pull-fire-alarm-stop-trans-shooter-Audrey-Hale.html
March 28, 20232 yr 29 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said: The majority of mass shootings are being done by Trump loving, white supremacists. Oh boy here we go.
March 28, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, mr_hunt said: could be a coincidence like the drop in mass shootings during the decade when the assault weapon ban was in place. could be. Didn't look at the others but the Uvalde one is basically the same as this
March 28, 20232 yr 18 minutes ago, Mike030270 said: Didn't look at the others but the Uvalde one is basically the same as this What makes you think the weapon used at Ulvalde looks anything like that?
March 28, 20232 yr 7 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said: What makes you think the weapon used at Ulvalde looks anything like that? Same round, same semi auto. Just different stock
March 28, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, mr_hunt said: could be a coincidence like the drop in mass shootings during the decade when the assault weapon ban was in place. could be. and according to @lynched1's earlier claim, most of those shooters were trans.
March 28, 20232 yr 11 minutes ago, Mike030270 said: Same round, same semi auto. Just different stock You are just kidding right? There is a reason why the military uses what they use and not the varmint rifle you posted.
March 28, 20232 yr 7 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said: and according to @lynched1's earlier claim, most of those shooters were trans. They were all Vietnamese?
March 28, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, 91defense said: That's a neat little internet argument trick there. I was responding directly to specific claims, then you went all "WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN!!!" But yeah, I'm the one playing tricks. I thought your point about social media was fair and should probably be discussed. Aside from that, the problem is not our rights, it's mental illness. Sadly, mentally ill people will abuse our rights to commit heinous crimes. If you've got a suggestion for how to identify them and keeping them from doing so, I'm all ears. And I have a 9 year old daughter who attends a "Christian" school. If you think that what happened yesterday doesn't tear me up, well, that says more about you than it does about me. AND THAT GOES FOR ALL OF YOU!!!! ( )
March 28, 20232 yr 40 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said: You are just kidding right? There is a reason why the military uses what they use and not the varmint rifle you posted. Why are you bringing up the military. That's got nothing to do with this The rounds that was used was a 5.56 I believe. You don't need a rifle the military uses now to use that round. Hell you don't need a military rifle to use majority of the rounds that have been used in these shootings. .223 and 5.56 have been the more popular kinds in these attacks. There are old rifles that use the same rounds that we use now. It's a single shot semi auto rifle. The stock is wood instead of the fancy new ones
March 28, 20232 yr 13 minutes ago, Mike030270 said: Why are you bringing up the military. That's got nothing to do with this The rounds that was used was a 5.56 I believe. You don't need a rifle the military uses now to use that round. Hell you don't need a military rifle to use majority of the rounds that have been used in these shootings. .223 and 5.56 have been the more popular kinds in these attacks. There are old rifles that use the same rounds that we use now. It's a single shot semi auto rifle. The stock is wood instead of the fancy new ones It’s the style of weapon that makes it similar to the military not the the caliber. The Ulvalde shooter used an AR style rifle-with a trigger device, not the varmint rifle you posted.
March 28, 20232 yr 36 minutes ago, The_Omega said: I was responding directly to specific claims, then you went all "WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN!!!" But yeah, I'm the one playing tricks. I thought your point about social media was fair and should probably be discussed. Aside from that, the problem is not our rights, it's mental illness. Sadly, mentally ill people will abuse our rights to commit heinous crimes. If you've got a suggestion for how to identify them and keeping them from doing so, I'm all ears. And I have a 9 year old daughter who attends a "Christian" school. If you think that what happened yesterday doesn't tear me up, well, that says more about you than it does about me. AND THAT GOES FOR ALL OF YOU!!!! ( ) It had nothing to do with your feelings on the subject. I am guessing everyone is torn up about the details of these school shootings. It doesn't take away from the fact that it was innocent kids. Yes... what about the children? That is important and you friggin' know it. Back to my question; you mentioned that "mass" shootings (lumping in gang shootings to help your argument, where people kinda know what they are in for) are usually handguns. If you take that out of the equation since it really is a different category, all I was asking was how often is an assault weapon used when little kids or crowds of people get slaughtered. You totally sidestepped that question, while trying to make yourself look smarter than me. That is the cute, little argument trick I speak of and it's pretty annoying, to be honest.
March 28, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, Tnt4philly said: It’s the style of weapon that makes it similar to the military not the the caliber. The Ulvalde shooter used an AR style rifle-with a trigger device, not the varmint rifle you posted. The caliber makes the difference. The style is what the news and people like to associate with the military
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