Posted July 25, 20223 yr Do I think climate changes? You bet, earth has gone through some dramatic climate shifts through the ages. Do I think the climate is changing now because of things man has done? Perhaps, but only slightly so, if at all. And I don't believe for a second that government officials are the right people to handle our climate. I also doubt very much that actions of man will make a perceptible difference in our climate - which is influenced considerably more by forces like the sun, volcanoes and the like. But never let a good crisis go to waste said some Democratic politician, so we can expect to be scammed and taxed by our political leaders who would like nothing better than to use this to increase their own wealth and power. https://www.cerescourier.com/opinion/editorial/the-democrats-climate-change-scam/ The Democrats’ climate change scam Frank Aquila Guest Columnist Published: Apr 14, 2021, 1:04 PM In the 1970’s various articles, particularly Time Magazine’s June 24, 1974 issue, "Another Ice Age” and Newsweek’s April 28, 1975, "The Cooling World” led Americans to believe the earth was "cooling” and that we may die from frigid ice. However, as the temperatures of the earth goes in cycles and began to warm, a new generation was led to believe in "global warming” through a documentary film by Al Gore called, "Inconvenient Truth.” Inconvenient Truth happened to be a convenient lie to advance the Democrat agenda and deceive the world with false data alleging the earth was warming due to manmade carbon dioxide (CO2). Instead, Al Gore flew on his private jet lecturing Americans and made millions as all the predictions of the polar ice caps melting, Miami disappearing and other predictions were false and never happened. While Democrats were trying to deceive Americans (and the world) that anyone who opposed them were "anti-environment” and against the "Saving the Earth” campaign, leaked emails on November 21, 2009 from the Hadley Climate Change Unit revealed data was intentionally falsified to support global warming when, in reality, the earth began to cool again. Since "Global Cooling” and "Global Warming” were giving the Democrats head fakes, a new neutral term of "Climate Change” had to be used to advance their socialist agenda, which was supported by news corporations like NBC, who gave favorable coverage to the Democrat agenda since NBC is owned by General Electric and would benefit from the advancement of alternative-energy contracts. With Democrats now in control, the "Green New Deal” is their 3 trillion dollar dream to regulate Americans and redistribute American wealth to the world to remove capitalism and American greatness toward world equality. Democrats have proposed another couple trillion in the name of infrastructure, which most has nothing to do with infrastructure. Only 25 percent is designated toward infrastructure while the remaining 75 percent are more Democrat climate change handouts. Biden rejoined the Paris-Climate Accord despite America cutting more CO2 during President Trump’s term than any country in the treaty according to Forbes due to increased natural gas and American independence. While emissions were reduced in America, China and India were higher. As a result of Biden joining the Paris-Climate Accord, the Washington Examiner reported by 2025 America will lose 2.7 million jobs as Biden has already axed thousands of jobs already with Executive Orders to push the Democrat Climate Change scam. Gregory Wrightstone, executive director of the CO2 Coalition, which seeks to educate the public about the important contributions carbon dioxide makes to our lives and the economy, stated there is no evidence of "any atmospheric CO2 levels being reduced” and agrees the earth naturally goes through natural cooling and warming cycles. Now I am all for clean air, clean water, picking up our trash, and taking care of the earth God has provided us; but this is not the goal of those who support Climate Change. Their goal is advancing the Democrat globalization agenda through worldwide socialism. They believe America is imperialistic and its wealth must be redistributed to other counties. This is why Democrats despise American greatness. At the same time, Democrats and their media lapdogs have set the narrative they are the ones who care about the environment. They believe Americans must give up their own energy resources and jobs and sacrifice their freedoms to save the planet. They believe a global tax and government regulations of what we drive or what we spend on energy is necessary even if Americans need to sacrifice warmth for food and medicine due to coming inflation. They have even floated extreme ideas to remove air travel and exterminate cattle. Nothing is beyond their reach or their desired control. While these government elites push a false narrative to have Americans conform to Climate Change, they continue to live their lives in luxury as the "do what I say; but not as I do” Democrats. An example of this is Biden’s Climate czar, John Kerry, who took a private jet to pick up an environmental award, calling it the "only choice for someone like me” while promoting the Democrat Climate Change scam.
July 25, 20223 yr I for one am thankful that we have these activist willing and able to jump into their personal chartered jets to meet anywhere in the world as often as they want to in order to save the planet and our souls. Seriously I just love the fact they do it right in faces of the tree huggers who are often calling other people "bots".
July 25, 20223 yr Tobacco and Oil Industries Used Same Researchers to Sway Public - Scientific American Organizations worried about climate change have long drawn comparisons between the petroleum and tobacco industries, arguing that each has minimized public health damages of its products to operate unchecked. Some have urged federal regulators to prosecute oil companies under racketeering charges, as the Department of Justice did in 1999 in a case against Philip Morris and other major tobacco brands. Oil companies bristle at the comparison. But overlap between both industries existed as early as the 1950s, new research details. Documents housed at the University of California, San Francisco, and analyzed in recent months by the Center for International Environmental Law (CIEL), a Washington, D.C.-based advocacy group, show that the oil and tobacco industries have been linked for decades. The files CIEL drew its research from have been public for years. The unknown author of one memo, who once worked for Standard Oil Co. Inc. of New Jersey, suggested scientists for an advisory committee study the health effects of smoking. "I am giving below the names of individuals who you might consider as potential members of the Medical Advisory Committee for the tobacco industry, as related to its current medical problem,” the person wrote to a tobacco research board, alluding to building evidence that smoking caused health problems. Both industries hired public relations company Hill & Knowlton Inc., an influential New York firm, for outreach as early as 1956. And Theodor Sterling, a mathematics professor known for research on smoking that was favorable to the tobacco industry—Philip Morris paid more than $200,000 in the 1990s for his work—also studied lead in gasoline for Ethyl Corp. in 1962. Ethyl was a joint venture between General Motors Corp. and Standard Oil. "From the 1950s onward, the oil and tobacco firms were using not only the same PR firms and same research institutes, but many of the same researchers,” CIEL President Carroll Muffett said in a statement. "Again and again we found both the PR firms and the researchers worked first for oil, then for tobacco,” he said. "It was a pedigree the tobacco companies recognized and sought out.” CIEL alerted ClimateWire to the existence of the tobacco documents and has been researching for years what the oil industry knew about climate change and what it did in response. The examination of the tobacco documents has been more recent for CIEL, which calls its project comparing the tobacco and oil industries "Smoke & Fumes.” The group’s new research is part of a building debate about oil companies’ knowledge over the decades about climate change. It also is part of a push from environmental groups to make the legal case that fossil energy companies have lied for decades about global warming risks, just as tobacco companies lied about the connection between smoking and cancer. Last week, House Science, Space and Technology Chairman Lamar Smith (R-Texas) subpoenaed the attorneys general of New York and Massachusetts, who are each investigating if Exxon Mobil Corp. misled investors and the public about climate change threats, and several environmental groups (ClimateWire, July 14). Smith and his colleagues maintain that the attorneys general colluded with environmentalists in their investigations. They say such probes violate First Amendment protections of free speech. THE STANFORD RESEARCH INSTITUTE LINK Another connection between oil and tobacco companies, according to CIEL, is the Stanford Research Institute, now known as SRI International after splitting with Stanford University in 1970. Founded in 1946, SRI studied smog and pollution generally and received funding from tobacco and oil companies. SRI scientists also generated climate change research for the American Petroleum Institute in the 1960s and ‘70s. Spokespeople for Chevron Corp., Exxon Mobil and Royal Dutch Shell PLC said they hadn’t heard of the Stanford Research Institute before, declining to comment further. And API spokesmen did not respond to request for comment. A blog post from the Independent Petroleum Association of America called the document release a "desperate move” and the latest in a coordinated attempt to hurt the fossil fuel industry. In a 1968 report prepared for API in New York City, SRI scientists Elmer Robinson and R.C. Robbins acknowledged some uncertainty concerning the relation between carbon emissions and rising temperatures, yet said carbon dioxide was the most likely cause of the "greenhouse effect.” "If the earth’s temperatures increase significantly, a number of events might be expected to occur, including the melting of the Antarctic ice cap, a rise in sea levels, warming of the oceans, and an increase in photosynthesis,” they wrote. Robinson followed up in an API-commissioned study dated 1971. "If there were a long term and significant increase in the pollutant content of the atmosphere either of particles or of carbon dioxide, the potential damage to the global environment could be severe,” he said. "Even the remote possibility of such an occurrence justifies concern,” added Robinson, one of the first scientists to link the burning of fossil fuels with global warming. He died earlier this year at 91. The documents show oil companies tested toxicity in cigarettes in the 1950s, and some, including Exxon and Shell, patented cigarette filters worldwide for decades. They also indicate that tobacco companies went to SRI for help in creating small testing kits the size of suitcases to assess smoke. THE SMOKE AND FUMES COMMITTEE In 1946, API established its own body to study pollution from the oil industry. It was called the Smoke and Fumes Committee. Wary of government regulation to slash pollution from refineries and other operations within their supply chain, as well as public concern about smog in cities such as Los Angeles, petroleum officials at API and member firms offered alternative theories of how smog was created. "The worst thing that can happen, in many instances, is the hasty passage of a law or laws for the control of a given air pollution situation,” Vance Jenkins, executive secretary of the Smoke and Fumes Committee, said in a 1954 trade journal article about smog pollution. The corporate predecessors to Chevron Corp., Exxon Corp. and Royal Dutch Shell PLC were each involved in the Smoke and Fumes Committee through former companies and subsidiaries, often broken-off units of the Standard Oil corporate empire. While the documents show API learned of potential climate change risks as early as 1968 and had formed committees to examine smog pollution in the 1940s, Exxon CEO Lee Raymond said in November 1996 that climate science was unsettled. "Scientific evidence remains inconclusive as to whether human activities affect the global climate,” Raymond said at a press conference. The University of California, San Francisco, documents were cached there starting in 2002 after tobacco industry litigation. Hill & Knowlton references are heavily featured. An internal Hill & Knowlton memo from 1954 describes a booklet that employees circulated to doctors nationwide on the "cigarette-lung cancer theory.” They also show company founder John Hill, as well as colleagues Bert Goss, Richard Darrow and others, sat in on meetings of the Tobacco Industry Research Committee, an industry panel. Hill also appears in meeting minutes in the 1950s for the Manufacturing Chemists’ Association Inc. And a flyer from 1963 indicates Goss, president of Hill & Knowlton at the time, hosted an event that November about the future of public relations. An executive of Socony Mobil Oil Co. Inc., a predecessor of Mobil Oil, coordinated that talk, held at the New School in New York City. Reprinted from ClimateWire with permission from Environment & Energy Publishing, LLC. E&E provides daily coverage of essential energy and environmental news at www.eenews.net. Click here for the original story.
July 25, 20223 yr Human beings have always thrived in warm periods and stagnated in cold periods. I'm glad we live in a warm period now. Assuming that humans could actually control the climate, if given the choice between the extremes of no ice cap- jungle world and barren ice world, I know which one I'd choose.
July 25, 20223 yr 34 minutes ago, PoconoDon said: Human beings have always thrived in warm periods and stagnated in cold periods. I'm glad we live in a warm period now. Assuming that humans could actually control the climate, if given the choice between the extremes of no ice cap- jungle world and barren ice world, I know which one I'd choose. People in PA will be fine. In places in the world where there’s a diminishing amount of water (due to hotter and drier weather) it won’t be so good.
July 25, 20223 yr Climate change is a hoax, so say the exact same people that said covid is no big deal.
July 25, 20223 yr I don't know Procus, Democrats typically govern so efficiently I really think they can reverse the earth's climate trends if we just completely upend our way of life and submit to global communism.
July 25, 20223 yr Author 57 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Climate change is a hoax, so say the exact same people that said covid is no big deal. Climate change is not a hoax. We had the mini Ice Age, the big Ice Age, the medieval warm period, the Roman Warm Period. Climate by its very nature is in flux. The hoax is that man is evil by nature and is causing warming, and that big government is the only one who can change it - no doubt with onerous regulations, taxes and restructuring.
July 25, 20223 yr Yep, and the election was totes rigged too. Definitely not a lengthy track record of mental illness or anything.
July 25, 20223 yr Sigh... The climate is changing. Ocean temperatures are rising. Rising ocean temperatures are responsible for some of the extreme weather events we have been experiencing. That said there's isn't much we as Americans can do about. America is actually a pretty environmentally conscious country. So is Europe. China and India are major polluters and I don't see that changing any time soon.
July 25, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Nice think piece by Ceres Courier. Thanks, Procus! it's a major step up from the michelle obama thread.
July 25, 20223 yr Just now, Alpha_TATEr said: it's a major step up from the michelle obama thread. I've been on vacation, from work but also from here. I'll have to dig it up but I'm sure it's a good one since Michelle Obama is so topical at the moment.
July 25, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, VanHammersly said: I've been on vacation, from work but also from here. I'll have to dig it up but I'm sure it's a good one since Michelle Obama is so topical at the moment. just know that after the stupid blew up in his face, he claimed it was all in jest. typical sea cucumber.
July 25, 20223 yr 21 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said: it's a major step up from the michelle obama thread. He also resurrected the birther conspiracy last week, so he's definitely trending up with this one!
July 25, 20223 yr 35 minutes ago, Gannan said: Sigh... The climate is changing. Ocean temperatures are rising. Rising ocean temperatures are responsible for some of the extreme weather events we have been experiencing. That said there's isn't much we as Americans can do about. America is actually a pretty environmentally conscious country. So is Europe. China and India are major polluters and I don't see that changing any time soon. I wouldn’t say the US and Europe are environmentally conscious. We’ve just moved our plants to India and china. They aren’t using those massive plants for themselves only.
July 25, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, Gannan said: Sigh... The climate is changing. Ocean temperatures are rising. Rising ocean temperatures are responsible for some of the extreme weather events we have been experiencing. That said there's isn't much we as Americans can do about. America is actually a pretty environmentally conscious country. So is Europe. China and India are major polluters and I don't see that changing any time soon. A reasoned opinion? Do you favor being buried or burned alive?
November 7, 2025Nov 7 On 7/25/2022 at 6:23 AM, Dave Moss said:Tobacco and Oil Industries Used Same Researchers to Sway Public - Scientific AmericanOrganizations worried about climate change have long drawn comparisons between the petroleum and tobacco industries, arguing that each has minimized public health damages of its products to operate unchecked. Exxon funded rightwing thinktanks in Latin America to spread climate change denial.https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/nov/03/exxon-funded-thinktanks-to-spread-climate-denial-in-latin-america-documents-revealExxon funded rightwing thinktanks to spread climate change denial across Latin America, according to hundreds of previously unpublished documents that reveal a coordinated campaign to make the global south "less inclined” to support the UN-led climate treaty process.The documents, which include copies of the actual cheques Exxon sent, consist of internal documents and years of correspondence between the Texas-based fossil fuel company and Atlas Network, a US-based coalition of more than 500 free-market thinktanks and other partners worldwide.The money Exxon sent to Atlas Network helped finance Spanish and Chinese translations of English books denying that human-caused climate change is real; flights to Latin American cities for American climate deniers; and public events that allowed those deniers to reach local media and network with politicians.One goal was to convince the developing world of "the adverse effects of global climate change treaties”, Atlas Network explained to its fossil fuel donor.According to a strategy proposal "dealing specifically with the problems of international treaties” that Atlas sent by mail to the company’s headquarters in Irving, Texas, "this investment in market-oriented public policies is a vital key to our future prosperity and wellbeing – and to continued strong returns to Exxon’s investors.”
November 7, 2025Nov 7 We need to stop developing countries from developing. Now.The fate of the world is at stake.Let them have zebu milk.
November 7, 2025Nov 7 8 minutes ago, Arthur Jackson said:We need to stop developing countries from developing. Now.The fate of the world is at stake.Let them have zebu milk.You hate brown people
November 7, 2025Nov 7 Think about it. If developing countries develop, it won't be any nicer in first world countries anymore. They would demand progress and change. We can't have that.
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