Posted July 25, 20223 yr There are 350 pages of TATER heaven on the other thread if you want to discuss Hurts. 1. Tight End. Goedert is considered an elite TE - top 10 at worst, but I don't always see it. His statistics are impressive, but he doesn't score enough TDs. In fact, he was 17th in TDs last year. After Goedert, there's absolutely no depth. How thin is the position? They're trying to salvage JJAW's career by having him learn the part. All 6'2 and 220lbs of him. 2. Running back. Miles Sanders regressed last year despite the focus on the running game in the second half of the season. He didn't score a single touchdown. Not one. You could argue that he didn't get enough touches last year, considering his high average per attempt, but there's a reason the coaching staff fed the ball to everyone else: he runs side to side instead of hitting the hole hard. Sanders isn't even a top 25 back. After him, they seem to like Gainwell and Scott. 3. Punter. Siposs is the only punter on the roster, but surely they'll bring in some competition at some point. He's statistically one of the 4 or 5 worst punters in the league, and it shows.
July 25, 20223 yr Wonder if we'll ever get to see Tyree Jackson at TE? Before his injury, he looked to be a promising TE2. What's his status? Also hoping Calcaterra can stay healthy and get back to his preinjury form.
July 25, 20223 yr 58 minutes ago, Hawkeye said: There are 350 pages of TATER heaven on the other thread if you want to discuss Hurts. 1. Tight End. Goedert is considered an elite TE - top 10 at worst, but I don't always see it. His statistics are impressive, but he doesn't score enough TDs. In fact, he was 17th in TDs last year. That might have something to do with the person throwing the ball. Maybe.
July 25, 20223 yr Author 1 hour ago, Dweedlebug said: That might have something to do with the person throwing the ball. Maybe. Carson Wentz started 39 of the games since Goedert was drafted. Hurts started 19. Nick Foles and Minshew were the other starters during that time frame. In fact, Goedert had his best season as a receiver in 2021 by far. He just doesn't score enough touchdowns regardless of who the QB is.
July 25, 20223 yr 42 minutes ago, Hawkeye said: Carson Wentz started 39 of the games since Goedert was drafted. Hurts started 19. Nick Foles and Minshew were the other starters during that time frame. In fact, Goedert had his best season as a receiver in 2021 by far. He just doesn't score enough touchdowns regardless of who the QB is. Are you forgetting that he played second fiddle to Ertz the first 3 years of his career?
July 25, 20223 yr Safety is #1 TE and is #2 due to a major drop off after Goedert if he gets injured again. #3 would be RBs or DE for me.
July 25, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, Hawkeye said: There are 350 pages of TATER heaven on the other thread if you want to discuss Hurts. 1. Tight End. Goedert is considered an elite TE - top 10 at worst, but I don't always see it. His statistics are impressive, but he doesn't score enough TDs. In fact, he was 17th in TDs last year. After Goedert, there's absolutely no depth. How thin is the position? They're trying to salvage JJAW's career by having him learn the part. All 6'2 and 220lbs of him. 2. Running back. Miles Sanders regressed last year despite the focus on the running game in the second half of the season. He didn't score a single touchdown. Not one. You could argue that he didn't get enough touches last year, considering his high average per attempt, but there's a reason the coaching staff fed the ball to everyone else: he runs side to side instead of hitting the hole hard. Sanders isn't even a top 25 back. After him, they seem to like Gainwell and Scott. 3. Punter. Siposs is the only punter on the roster, but surely they'll bring in some competition at some point. He's statistically one of the 4 or 5 worst punters in the league, and it shows. Safety should be more of a concern over a punter. Other than Harris who I'm not still really that confident in, we need Kavon Wallace to really have a huge camp and preseason. Also the very early depth chart on ESPN shows Tartt as the starting SS
July 25, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Hawkeye said: Carson Wentz started 39 of the games since Goedert was drafted. Hurts started 19. Nick Foles and Minshew were the other starters during that time frame. In fact, Goedert had his best season as a receiver in 2021 by far. He just doesn't score enough touchdowns regardless of who the QB is. Then it goes to the person calling the plays. Get your big man the ball in the RZ. 1 hour ago, Mike030270 said: It'll definitely be a problem if Goedert goes down Richard Rodgers?????? 😜
July 25, 20223 yr 42 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said: DE should be the biggest concern on the defensive side. I don't believe BG will last the season. Sweat is just a guy. Barnett blows. RB depth should be a concern on the offensive side, since we will have to run the ball a ton. TE concern is overrated. Are you forgetting that we are switching mainly to 3-4? and our LB's like... Reddick are now also the home run hitters. Our DE have to improve, but I am not overly concerned about the Position, unless Someone has a trouble fitting into the new scheme.... I agree that the TE concern is overrated. I would not mind adding another RB for depth, but also not a major concern. I will let the Eagles worry about the punters, and establish competition at the position.
July 25, 20223 yr Author 2 hours ago, KDUB1510 said: Are you forgetting that he played second fiddle to Ertz the first 3 years of his career? No, we're well aware of that. And the Eagles ran a number of 2 TE sets. But he's the man now and needs to be much more involved in red zone play calls.
July 25, 20223 yr 47 minutes ago, Hawkeye said: No, we're well aware of that. And the Eagles ran a number of 2 TE sets. But he's the man now and needs to be much more involved in red zone play calls. We ran a number of 2 TE sets but Goedert was tasked with blocking during alot of those plays. I agree he needs to be involved more in the red zone playcalls. I expect him to catch 7-10 TD's this season.
July 25, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, KDUB1510 said: We ran a number of 2 TE sets but Goedert was tasked with blocking during alot of those plays. I agree he needs to be involved more in the red zone playcalls. I expect him to catch 7-10 TD's this season. The WR's will not be very happy only catching 6-9 TD's.
July 25, 20223 yr 17 minutes ago, downundermike said: The WR's will not be very happy only catching 6-9 TD's. I think they'd be okay with 6-9 TD's if they have 1000+ receiving yards. I just dont see us having more than one guy go over 1k yards, if that. It's sad because there arent many better 11 personnel sets than Brown, Smith, Quez & Goedert. That's a ton of speed, playmaking & RAC ability. Any non rookie QB worth his salt should walk into 30+ passing TD's and 4000+ yards with those pass catchers.
July 25, 20223 yr Don't care what the title says, biggest and most important concern is Hurts. The rest mean nothing. 😃
July 26, 20223 yr I wouldn't label TE a concern (to me). We have one of the better ones as a starter. Stoll played 331 snaps last season, so he got in some work in real games. Calcaterra has some talent as a receiver but will need to develop NFL blocking skills to get playing time. The Eagles really liked Togiai as a rookie, so he'll get a long look in camp and in preseason. Richard Rodgers is a dependable and solid backup if we keep him. Jackson, I believe, will sit this on out and JJAW will probably end up on the PS. I'm not concerned, but I am curious to see who wins #2 and #3. I expect Stoll and Calcaterra to make the final roster.
July 26, 20223 yr 17 hours ago, RememberTheKoy said: Safety is #1 Why do the Eagles keep signing Anthony Harris to one year deals? Too funny. 5 mill last year and I think 3 mill this year. Hopefully, for the Eagles sake, Tartt can win the starting SS job, cuz Harris is not acceptable. Epps is serviceable I guess at FS.
July 26, 20223 yr 23 hours ago, Iggles25 said: Also hoping Calcaterra can stay healthy and get back to his preinjury form. Right, he's supposed to be a good one, if he isn't over his concussions by now he should quit football.
July 26, 20223 yr 6 hours ago, PackerNation said: Why do the Eagles keep signing Anthony Harris to one year deals? Too funny. 5 mill last year and I think 3 mill this year. Hopefully, for the Eagles sake, Tartt can win the starting SS job, cuz Harris is not acceptable. Epps is serviceable I guess at FS. Only a matter of time before you learned your lesson. Worry about your own teams message boards.
July 27, 20223 yr On 7/25/2022 at 2:05 PM, Hawkeye said: Carson Wentz started 39 of the games since Goedert was drafted. Hurts started 19. Nick Foles and Minshew were the other starters during that time frame. In fact, Goedert had his best season as a receiver in 2021 by far. He just doesn't score enough touchdowns regardless of who the QB is. Goedert had 4 tds on 56 reception for a TD every 14 catches. Target wise goedert had 76 which is a TD every 19 targets Mark Andrews had 9 tds on 107 catches good for a TD every 11 catches. Target wise mark had 153 which is a TD every 17 targets. So While Goedert doesn't ave as many tds as Mark Andrews elite season he's not far off the pace. Having said that I think goedert is capable of scoring more tds.
July 27, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Utebird said: Goedert had 4 tds on 56 reception for a TD every 14 catches. Target wise goedert had 76 which is a TD every 19 targets Mark Andrews had 9 tds on 107 catches good for a TD every 11 catches. Target wise mark had 153 which is a TD every 17 targets. So While Goedert doesn't ave as many tds as Mark Andrews elite season he's not far off the pace. Having said that I think goedert is capable of scoring more tds. He is good for dropping a few easy ones too
July 27, 20223 yr 8 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said: He is good for dropping a few easy ones too It happens.
July 28, 20223 yr Author On 7/27/2022 at 11:35 AM, Utebird said: Goedert had 4 tds on 56 reception for a TD every 14 catches. Target wise goedert had 76 which is a TD every 19 targets Mark Andrews had 9 tds on 107 catches good for a TD every 11 catches. Target wise mark had 153 which is a TD every 17 targets. So While Goedert doesn't ave as many tds as Mark Andrews elite season he's not far off the pace. Having said that I think goedert is capable of scoring more tds. One of my points somewhere in here is he needs more targets, particularly in the red zone. It's a volume issue.
July 29, 20223 yr Honestly these days I don't think TE as a specialist position is that important, Rodgers and Burton put up passable numbers when called on the past few years, as long as they have a tall guy with decent hands they'll be fine. If it looks desperate in camp guys like Ebron, Jarwin and James are all looking to catch on with teams and should be more than adequate back ups.
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