August 3, 20223 yr On 7/31/2022 at 7:10 PM, lynched1 said: They should fix the language and it passes. Dumb***es On 7/31/2022 at 7:14 PM, TEW said: The issue is in how the spending is classified. By making it mandatory spending, it opens up $400B in future discretionary spending. Essentially it becomes a potential Trojan horse/poison pill to $400B in discretionary spending on future, unrelated programs. The fact that the bill does not add this spending in the present is irrelevant to this accounting procedure’s potential for future abuse. The solution is pretty straight forward: make it discretionary spending. That way Democrats can’t be accused of trying to use sick veterans as a shield for pork and Republicans don’t have an excuse to not vote for it if they do, in fact, support it. I think most Americans would agree that we should help veterans who were exposed to toxins from burn pits but also not use sick veterans as a vehicle to spend nearly half a trillion dollars on things completely unrelated to veterans. I think you’d agree with that, right? On 7/31/2022 at 8:46 PM, TEW said: The point of making it mandatory is to avoid the appropriations process — good in theory from a practical view since the spending is essentially agreed upon by everyone and it just takes up more time for what is basically a rubber stamp issue. But in doing so, you’re basically left with a bunch of cash that can be spent on anything. And let’s not act like Democrats haven’t used this trick before, so to say that it’s 100% a retaliatory partisan move is just wrong, and likely motivated by partisan sentiments of your own. Again, the GOP is on record as saying they want to sign the bill with this mechanism fixed. And with that fix, we could avoid what everyone says they want to avoid — pork spending. So who is playing partisan ball here? If Democrat’s motives are so pure, just fix the mechanism and it can be passed into law. Or maybe there is another motive… On 7/31/2022 at 10:52 PM, The_Omega said: No they didn’t. The original Senate bill was discretionary. The house then changed it to mandatory. On 7/31/2022 at 10:33 PM, TEW said: Grow up indeed. The GOP is attempting to make the bill do precisely what it is supposed to do — to spend the money on vets and not be used as another mechanism for tranny book tours and green no energy bullsh**. If you don’t want politicians playing politics with sick and dying vets, go yell at the democrats to fix the funding mechanism and it will get passed. If democrats refuse, then THEY are playing politics and have other motives. It’s really that simple. On 8/1/2022 at 10:50 AM, Kz! said: Or how about the kind, benevolent democrats just remove "the objectionable parts" if they really want the bill to pass. 21 hours ago, Kz! said: It's already been discussed. I can't discuss it any harder. Should be an easy fix since both sides definitely want to help veterans. I'm sure the democrats will be reasonable and amend the bill appropriately to get this thing done and not try to drag this on for political gamesmanship. 19 hours ago, Kz! said: I don't have to try again. Republicans that voted against it are literally saying what they found objectionable. That they didn't find it objectionable before Biden's massive spending proposals got OK'd doesn't really make a difference to me. So now dems can quit playing political football with the veterans I'm sure they deeply care about and compromise with republicans who now find portions of the bill objectionable. 18 hours ago, Kz! said: Yeah they totally "went back on their word" *insert Jon Stewart weeping uncontrollably here* 12 hours ago, matchew88 said: How very not shocking the lack of understanding of details. Democrats always play politics. The only way this deal goes through is for the Democrat-run senate to get an extra 400B before the midterms. Republicans were ready at the table, but the democrats only care about the election. And like clockwork, several pages of people still falling for the Dem antics. These posts^ have aged well...
August 3, 20223 yr 53 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: "i was wrong and people are laughing at me after I was once again demonstrably retarded. Yeah, you could say I'm winning." "I literally use this forum to overcompensate for physical and social shortcomings in real life."
August 3, 20223 yr Just now, Kz! said: "I literally use this forum to overcompensate for physical and social shortcomings in real life." Haha, he's already falling back on this stuff and it's only 9AM.
August 3, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, Kz! said: "I literally use this forum to overcompensate for physical and social shortcomings in real life." "I literally use this forum to engage in some form of human interaction to overcompensate for my personal life that's utterly devoid of meaning and purpose."
August 3, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said: I literally use this forum to engage in some form of human interaction to overcompensate for my personal life that's utterly devoid of meaning and purpose. Fixed that for you, little dude.
August 3, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, Boogyman said: Haha, he's already falling back on this stuff and it's only 9AM. 45, jobless, and ishposting at 9 am.
August 3, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, Kz! said: Fixed that for you, little dude. Says the guy that's 5'8"
August 3, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Kz! said: 45, jobless, and ishposting at 9 am. Literally, literally, and literally.
August 3, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Says the guy that's 5'8" "I'm going to attribute a made-up height so I don't feel as bad about publicly admitting to being a manlet on here. I am very normal." 2 minutes ago, Boogyman said: Literally, literally, and literally. That's right, dude, take pride in being a literal leech to your wife's money. Shocking that you're an ishlib.
August 3, 20223 yr Just now, Kz! said: I'm going to attribute a made-up height so I don't feel as bad about publicly admitting to being a manlet on here. I am very normal. Fixed that for you, little dude.
August 3, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, Kz! said: That's right, dude, take pride in being a literal leech to your wife's money. Shocking that you're an ishlib. Nahhh I have my own money. Now lets get back on topic and talk about the bill that you were completely wrong about.
August 3, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Fixed that for you, little dude. Except you literally admitted you were a manlet and completely made up that height for me. Other than that, great point.
August 3, 20223 yr Just now, Kz! said: Except you literally admitted you were a manlet and completely made up that height for me. Other than that, great point.
August 3, 20223 yr Just now, Boogyman said: Nahhh I have my own money. Now lets get back on topic and talk about the bill that you were completely wrong about.
August 3, 20223 yr Fun way to start the morning eviscerating my two favorite message board scumbags. Didn't think I'd ever get the manlet to run with a made-up height for me but I guess he got tired of retreading a hanson joke for the thousandth time. 1 minute ago, Boogyman said: Yup, he's got nothing. You referring to your bank account if your wife decided to make you stop leeching?
August 3, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Kz! said: Fun way to start the morning eviscerating my two favorite message board scumbags. Didn't think I'd ever get the manlet to run with a made-up height for me but I guess he got tired of retreading a hanson joke for the thousandth time. You referring to your bank account if your wife decided to make you stop leeching?
August 3, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said: "I confirmed that I'm a manlet but maybe if I accuse you of being shorter I can save face." Come on, at least do a lawnmower joke or something. This is pathetic even by your incredibly short standards.
August 3, 20223 yr Kz would rather use pages upon pages of this thread to discuss ground breaking topics such as how people who are not very tall are short and people who are retired don't have a job, instead of his own face plant.
August 3, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Kz! said: I confirmed that I'm a manlet but maybe if I accuse you of being shorter I can save face. Fixed that for you, little dude
August 3, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said: Fixed that for you, little dude He's actually doing it. "I'm not short! You're short!"
August 3, 20223 yr Just now, Kz! said: He's actually doing it. "I'm not short! You're short!" He's actually doing it. "I'm not lonely and retarded! You're short!"
August 3, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, Boogyman said: Kz would rather use pages upon pages of this thread to discuss ground breaking topics such as how people who are not very tall are short and people who are retired don't have a job, instead of his own face plant. Yeah, you seem like a guy that's into really substantive political discussions. You know, when you're not making fun of someone's ill elderly parent, calling one of the only female posters on the board a C, or threatening to fight her husband. Let me just have actual conversations with this scumbag.
August 3, 20223 yr Several days of Kz talking points flushed down the toilet so he's aimlessly lashing out.
August 3, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Kz! said: Yeah, you seem like a guy that's into really substantive political discussions. You know, when you're not making fun of someone's ill elderly parent, calling one of the only female posters on the board a C, or threatening to fight her husband. Let me just have actual conversations with this scumbag. Go ahead, empty the bag lol.
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