On 8/8/2022 at 3:54 PM, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

I guess I'm now curious if CNN or MSNBC will face lawsuits for any of their sensationalism and lies...perhaps like the half million children that were starved or deprived of medicine in Iraq because of lies about WMD

Reporting what the government and rest of the world was saying at the time is a lie? 

12 hours ago, Tnt4philly said:

Reporting what the government and rest of the world was saying at the time is a lie? 

Rest of the world?  You mean Western Media?  So the fact that there was more than one person reporting it makes it ok?  If there had been 10 Alex Jones and more people believed him, that would make it better? 100?

 

to me, the fact that there were 1000s of reporters making the lie makes it worse, and the results are clear. Sandy Hook was a small number of people affected.  CNN, NYT, Fox… helped actually kill millions of people.  The only reason people like you don’t care is because it’s not right in front of your face every day

28 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

Rest of the world?  You mean Western Media?  So the fact that there was more than one person reporting it makes it ok?  If there had been 10 Alex Jones and more people believed him, that would make it better? 100?

 

to me, the fact that there were 1000s of reporters making the lie makes it worse, and the results are clear. Sandy Hook was a small number of people affected.  CNN, NYT, Fox… helped actually kill millions of people.  The only reason people like you don’t care is because it’s not right in front of your face every day

i'm calling it, you're full of sheet with this 1000's claim.

 

show me all of the names or go back to sniffing glue. 

Infowars host Alex Jones files for personal bankruptcy

 

https://apnews.com/article/alex-jones-declares-personal-bankruptcy-4f50412d0c4ce0495b351b8417f5d09c

 

Right at the same time he proves that Ye can out crazy him. The Ye, Fuentes, Jones thing is amazing. Watching Alex Jones cringe when Ye starts felating Hitler.

2 hours ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

Rest of the world?  You mean Western Media?  So the fact that there was more than one person reporting it makes it ok?  If there had been 10 Alex Jones and more people believed him, that would make it better? 100?

 

to me, the fact that there were 1000s of reporters making the lie makes it worse, and the results are clear. Sandy Hook was a small number of people affected.  CNN, NYT, Fox… helped actually kill millions of people.  The only reason people like you don’t care is because it’s not right in front of your face every day

Damn, now you have to pay to stop steals AND help Alex Jones pay his bills lmao. This ish is getting expensive, huh?

4 hours ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

i'm calling it, you're full of sheet with this 1000's claim.

 

show me all of the names or go back to sniffing glue. 

What number would you like me to say?

58 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

What number would you like me to say?

The correct number. 

6 hours ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

Rest of the world?  You mean Western Media?  So the fact that there was more than one person reporting it makes it ok?  If there had been 10 Alex Jones and more people believed him, that would make it better? 100?

 

to me, the fact that there were 1000s of reporters making the lie makes it worse, and the results are clear. Sandy Hook was a small number of people affected.  CNN, NYT, Fox… helped actually kill millions of people.  The only reason people like you don’t care is because it’s not right in front of your face every day

I’m not going to rehash a 20 year old argument. I was against starting the war in Iraq but fell in line once it was started. Regardless of that, the reporting that was going on then is nothing compared to the BS Jones was saying. He made up the lies, he wasn’t just reporting what he was told. 

Jones should not be allowed the Bankruptcy protection. Defamation is an intentional tort. I believe that would invalidate his claim. It's just his ploy to not pay what he owes after moving his money around. He is a total scum bag. 

 

1 hour ago, Tnt4philly said:

I’m not going to rehash a 20 year old argument. I was against starting the war in Iraq but fell in line once it was started. Regardless of that, the reporting that was going on then is nothing compared to the BS Jones was saying. He made up the lies, he wasn’t just reporting what he was told. 

So the NSDAPs who just followed orders… your opinion on them?

1 hour ago, Boogyman said:

The correct number. 

And that is..?

1 minute ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

So the NSDAPs who just followed orders… your opinion on them?

And that is..?

I have no clue because i dont care, you brought it up, stupid. I just enjoy pointing out how retarded the arguements you attempt to start are.

7 minutes ago, Boogyman said:

I have no clue because i dont care, you brought it up, stupid. I just enjoy pointing out how retarded the arguements you attempt to start are.

Calm down  , find a safe space. It will be ok

8 hours ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

Rest of the world?  You mean Western Media?  So the fact that there was more than one person reporting it makes it ok?  If there had been 10 Alex Jones and more people believed him, that would make it better? 100?

 

to me, the fact that there were 1000s of reporters making the lie makes it worse, and the results are clear. Sandy Hook was a small number of people affected.  CNN, NYT, Fox… helped actually kill millions of people.  The only reason people like you don’t care is because it’s not right in front of your face every day

The argument you're making here is so insanely stupid it hurts. 

The US gov't and multiple other gov'ts around the world stated that intelligence revealed that Iraq had WMD's.  They held press conferences, Colin Powell presented the case at the UN, etc.  The media reported on all that information.  Some people in the media made an opinion-based case for why we had to go in (most of these people were right-wing/Fox News opinion shows), but the vast majority of the reporting was based the facts as presented to the country and to these media outlets by the government.  They were bullsheet, but they were bullsheet manufactured by the government, not the media (though I'm sure some right wing opinion shows added in plenty of straight lies to sweeten the pot, they always do).  But by and large, the media was as in the dark as anyone else.

Alex Jones, on the other hand, made up, out of the blue, that murder victims and their families are paid actors, knowing full well that he was lying the whole time.  What would possibly cause you to believe that those are even remotely similar situations?

9 minutes ago, Boogyman said:

I have no clue because i dont care, you brought it up, stupid. I just enjoy pointing out how retarded the arguements you attempt to start are.

So you have no clue, but somehow you know I’m wrong

2 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

The argument you're making here is so insanely stupid it hurts. 

The US gov't and multiple other gov'ts around the world stated that intelligence revealed that Iraq had WMD's.  They held press conferences, Colin Powell presented the case at the UN, etc.  The media reported on all that information.  Some people in the media made an opinion-based case for why we had to go in (most of these people were right-wing/Fox News opinion shows), but the vast majority of the reporting was based the facts as presented to the country and to these media outlets by the government.

Alex Jones, on the other hand, made up, out of the blue, that murder victims and their families are paid actors, knowing full well that he was lying the whole time.  What would possibly cause you to believe that those are even remotely similar situations?

The problem with what you’re saying, for me, is that you, and the public at large, has a presumption against anything Alex says, and at the same time you have a presumption in favor of everything the media and the government says.

I did not watch Alex’s particular show about the Sandy Hook kids closely enough, but what I can say is that the things he says are often misrepresented.  Of course, it is true that is own fans probably also misconstrue what he has said, leading to riotous behavior in some cases.  And Alex probably knows this happens, and probably doesn’t take the necessary care that he should know he should take.

All of that said, I don’t think he "got it out of the blue.”  He researches stuff on the internet and then speculates recklessly.  This is how I know him.  So back to our presumptions.  You and the public at large presume the government and media are truth tellers.  And you presume that Alex is a liar.  My assessment is the opposite of that.  This is how we, you and I, reach different conclusions about this matter.

But I think the strongest point in my favor is not the difference in our opinion with respect to credibility.  Rather it’s the fact that the medias lies killed millions, whereas Alex’s lie merely made the lives of a few Connecticut families miserable.

9 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Calm down  , find a safe space. It will be ok

Dude....breathe deep...in with the good, out with the bad....

 

 

 

It's gonna be ok. If you need to talk more, PM me, I'll help you work it out man.

9 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

So you have no clue, but somehow you know I’m wrong

I'd make that bet every time and win way more than I would lose.

 

But since you know, just give us the list of names.

Just now, Boogyman said:

I'd make that bet every time and win way more than I would lose.

 

But since you know, just give us the list of names.

The reason I asked is because I think you are fixating on the number just so you can grab an opportunity to say that I am wrong about something.  The number is not important to what I am saying, other than it is greater than zero

18 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

The reason I asked is because I think you are fixating on the number just so you can grab an opportunity to say that I am wrong about something.  The number is not important to what I am saying, other than it is greater than zero

How much greater? Hmmmm? Oh yeah, you don't know lmao.

8 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

You and the public at large presume the government and media are truth tellers. 

No I don't.

8 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

And you presume that Alex is a liar. 

But yes, yes of course I do.  And so does everyone else that isn't mentally ill.

10 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

But I think the strongest point in my favor is not the difference in our opinion with respect to credibility.  Rather it’s the fact that the medias lies killed millions, whereas Alex’s lie merely made the lives of a few Connecticut families miserable.

Except you keep passing over the problem with your insanely stupid argument.  The media was reporting the facts presented by the government.  Was the government lying about Iraq?  Yeah, of course they were.  And pretty much every liberal was saying it at the time.  But that didn't mean the media was supposed to ignore the government's case as presented.

But Alex Jones literally made up a bunch of asinine BS and presented it as fact.  And he went to court and lost his a** over it.

The whole conspiracy guy who only believes proven liars sheet may have seemed fun for a while when you're young but it's just sad at some point.

16 hours ago, VanHammersly said:

No I don't.

But yes, yes of course I do.  And so does everyone else that isn't mentally ill.

Except you keep passing over the problem with your insanely stupid argument.  The media was reporting the facts presented by the government.  Was the government lying about Iraq?  Yeah, of course they were.  And pretty much every liberal was saying it at the time.  But that didn't mean the media was supposed to ignore the government's case as presented.

But Alex Jones literally made up a bunch of asinine BS and presented it as fact.  And he went to court and lost his a** over it.

The whole conspiracy guy who only believes proven liars sheet may have seemed fun for a while when you're young but it's just sad at some point.

Let’s go to your first point first.  You say that you and the public at large do not presume the government tells the truth.  But here we have a guy, Alex, who always presumes there’s a government conspiracy.  But to you, this is somehow wrongheaded.  But to you also the media is correct in the way they go about just believing the government.

 

Alex presents the facts presented by the internet.

 

The media presents the facts presented by the government.

 

I know it sounds crazy or stupid, because I’m pretty sure in school we were all taught that government sources are the most credible, when we were taught to write research papers.

 

I’m proposing that the government and internet are of equal credibility

23 hours ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

What number would you like me to say?

maybe you shouldn't spread lies, especially when you are ranting about the very same thing. 

 

capish ? 

 

On 12/3/2022 at 10:23 AM, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

Alex presents the facts presented by the internet.

No. Alex  chooses what info to present, the Internet does not present them. The Internet has no show. Alex does, and he chooses to peddle lies. Constantly.

Like school shootings are false flags.

Like lizard people are a real thing.

There are very few facts presented in his shows. Lots of lies. And endless list.

10 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

No. Alex  chooses what info to present, the Internet does not present them. The Internet has no show. Alex does, and he chooses to peddle lies. Constantly.

Like school shootings are false flags.

Like lizard people are a real thing.

There are very few facts presented in his shows. Lots of lies. And endless list.

Ok well then the media also chooses what info to present.  The government has no show