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He gives a pretty good argument of why movies suck these days 

 

 

 

15 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

He gives a pretty good argument of why movies suck these days 

 
16 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

TV Movie  critic guy has shown up. 

:P

He's not wrong. The music industry is the EXACT same way. Corporate applies a formula that will yield profit. If a movie script does not fit into said formula, they don't make it. They won't take chances on on anything bold or different like they did in the 60s - 90s. 

Pulp Fiction for example, would not get made today. Not a chance. 

8 hours ago, Gannan said:

He's not wrong. The music industry is the EXACT same way. Corporate applies a formula that will yield profit. If a movie script does not fit into said formula, they don't make it. They won't take chances on on anything bold or different like they did in the 60s - 90s. 

Pulp Fiction for example, would not get made today. Not a chance. 

A24 spits out a half dozen Pulp Fictions /yr.  Indie films are nowhere close to dead.

3 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said:

A24 spits out a half dozen Pulp Fictions /yr.  Indie films are nowhere close to dead.

I don’t even know what A24 is. So if quality indie films are being made, lots of people probably aren’t seeing them. 

3 minutes ago, Gannan said:

I don’t even know what A24 is. So if quality indie films are being made, lots of people probably aren’t seeing them. 

People never saw them before either.  Tarantino and Pulp Fiction had some star power with Travolta and Jackson and Thurman.  It was a breakout indie movie the kind you get a couple times a decade.  I will agree that netlfix/prime etc often do a very bad job of letting you know these films are in their inventory.

TV has overtaken movies for quality adult drama. 

I think that has to do with the consolidation of movie studios. When there's less competition, you don't have to sling as much at the wall to see what sticks, so there's less of a need for innovation.

Also when you take production out of the hands of producers and into the hands of corporations, there's less of a personal drive to get some projects done where someone sees the value in them.

Looking at television, there's a lot more studios there, thus more competition breeds more innovation. 

I think that's an example of why people enjoy Nolan movies. They're not the greatest movies ever, but they're different. 

They like low risk and known properties.  Yet almost every year there is something that is actually fresh and original and people like it but it doesn't get the same attention.  Then once that random unique thing has success, Hollywood tries to just clone it instead of look for more original filmmakers and storytellers to do something else original.

This is a better explanation 

 

 

 

  • 2 weeks later...

Halloween is still being made

On 9/26/2022 at 8:04 PM, dawkins4prez said:

People never saw them before either.  Tarantino and Pulp Fiction had some star power with Travolta and Jackson and Thurman.  Reservoir Dogs was a breakout indie movie the kind you get a couple times a decade.  I will agree that netlfix/prime etc often do a very bad job of letting you know these films are in their inventory.

FYP

On 10/9/2022 at 2:24 AM, Joe Shades 73 said:

Halloween is still being made

Yes once a movie makes the studios money they will make sequels, prequels, and reboots until everyone is sick to death of the franchise. 

1 hour ago, Gannan said:

Yes once a movie makes the studios money they will make sequels, prequels, and reboots until everyone is sick to death of the franchise. 

Or drive the franchise into the ground with stupid ideas.....

She Hulk

Ms. Marvel

Wanda Vision

...... and the list will continue.

 

I read something, probably on this board, about the movie Dazed and Confused. It stated that Dazed and Confused was based in 1976, and the movie came out in 1993. If that movie were made today, it would be about 2005. That just didn't feel right for some reason.

However, when you think about it deeper, there is a reason for that.

You can go back to different decades and see and feel a difference.

The 50's had a specific style with cars, clothes, and even a very specific style of interior design.

The 60's had clothes and music.

The 70's started to change the music from the 60s, and it also was the start of significant changes in the movie industry. Star Wars came out. Jaws became the very first summer blockbuster.

The 80's had a very defined music scene. Each genre broke out into different genres. Movies were all over the place, and some of the all-time classics came out in the 80s.

The 90's started to refine all this. While they had some different genres of music, they became more and more mainstream and had more corporate influence. The same thing started to happen with movies. While there was original content, they started to lean into sequels and more corporate interference in movies and music.

Then at the turn of the century, there was some original content, but it seemed like shortly afterward, everything became corporatized. Every new single has hundreds of people working on it. Every big movie being made comes from a proven material source (Super Hero Movies, Books that have a large following, and Remakes of old properties)

Once the year turned into the aughts, the definability of the decades evaporated. There are only slight differences between 2002 and 2022.

The only thing now definable to them is technology (Facebook, Youtube, Streaming, Snapchat, TikTok). There are independent studios, but they are rarely marketed to the masses, and most do not know they exist. The movie experience is slowly dying away, and once the Tiktok generation grows up, I wouldn't be shocked to see movie theatres shuttered and all new movies being shown on streaming services alone, if they are even made to begin with.

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