time2rock Posted September 29, 2022 Posted September 29, 2022 3 players who make sense for the Eagles at the trade deadline BY JIMMY KEMPSKI PhillyVoice Staff MARK HOFFMAN/USA TODAY SPORTS Robert Quinn (91) would give the Eagles added juice from the edge. If you hadn't noticed after the first three games of the 2022 regular season, the Philadelphia Eagles are good. Expect Howie Roseman to try to make them even better at the trade deadline. Since Roseman re-gained his general manager status in 2016, he has been a buyer at the deadline definitively in two seasons, and debatably in a third season. So let's first take a look at the Eagles' recent history of deadline trades, and then we'll get to three players that might make sense for them to acquire: • 2021: The Eagles were kinda-sorta sellers, as they traded TE Zach Ertz to the Cardinals after a loss to the Buccaneers brought their record to 2-4. They also traded Joe Flacco to the Jets to make way for Gardner Minshew to become the No. 2, and they traded a late pick for young CB Kary Vincent Jr. • 2020: No deadline trades, which made sense for a 3-4-1 team at the time of the deadline. • 2019: The Eagles traded a fourth-round pick for then-DE Genard Avery. Roseman explained after the season that Avery was a player they hoped would contribute in 2020 and beyond, but they did not expect him to step in immediately and make an impact. • 2018: The Eagles were buyers, trading a third-round pick for WR Golden Tate. • 2017: The Eagles were buyers, trading a fourth-round pick for RB Jay Ajayi. • 2016: No deadline trades. The trade deadline this year is November 1 at 4:00 p.m. EST. Three players who could make sense at the deadline Rashaad Penny (Age: 25), RB, Seahawks (5'11, 220) The Seahawks selected Penny in the first round of the 2018 NFL Draft, and he missed 28 games over his first four seasons in the NFL. His list of injuries since entering the NFL: • 2018: Missed two games with a knee injury. • 2019: Missed three games early in the season with a hamstring injury. • 2019: Torn ACL. Missed the final three games of the season. • 2020: Missed the first 13 games of the regular season while recovering from his 2019 torn ACL. He returned for the final three regular season games, but missed the Seahawks' wild card round matchup against the Rams. • 2021: Injured his calf in the Seahawks' win over the Colts Week 1. He missed the next five games. So why should the Eagles consider trading for this guy? Well, with the Seahawks' season basically in the toilet down the stretch and few paying attention, Penny absolutely went off in the Seattle's final five games of 2021: Opponent Rush Yards YPC TD Week 14, at Texans 16 137 8.6 2 Week 15, at Rams 11 39 3.6 0 Week 16, Bears 17 135 7.9 1 Week 17, Lions 25 170 6.8 2 Week 18, at Cardinals 23 190 8.3 1 TOTAL 92 671 7.3 6 So far in 2022, Penny has carried 32 times for 141 yards (4.4 YPC) and 0 TDs behind a Seattle offensive line that is bad in the middle, and has a pair of rookies at the tackle spots. Penny's running style is also a great fit for the Eagles' offense. He's a power back at 220 pounds, who runs with excellent energy. He has good vision, and his short, choppy steps allow him to follow his blocks as they develop down the field. He also has 4.46 speed, and can run away from defenders. He's basically a younger, souped up Jordan Howard with explosiveness and big play ability. A look (you'll have to click "Watch on YouTube" 🙄😞 Roseman is close with Seahawks GM John Schneider, and the Eagles have made three player trades with Seattle since 2017. There's trust there, which matters in the case of a previously oft-injured player. The Seahawks also drafted RB Kenneth Walker in the second round (41st overall) of the 2022 NFL Draft after re-signing Penny this offseason to a one-year deal. Penny's contract is reasonable, and since he is scheduled to become an unrestricted free agent next offseason, the cost to acquire him shouldn't be very prohibitive. A fifth-round pick in 2024 feels about right. Robert Quinn (32), EDGE, Bears (6'4, 245) The Eagles have good edge rushers in Haason Reddick and Josh Sweat, but their depth took a hit when they lost Derek Barnett for the season. If they can add some juice to their pass rush, the defense will just be that much more dangerous. Quinn quietly racked up 18.5 sacks on a bad Bears team in 2021, but his career production has been a bit of a roller coaster ride over the years. Quinn has five tackles and one sack in 2022. On the financial side, Quinn has salaries of $12,800,000 in 2022, $13,900,000 in 2023, and $12,900,000 in 2024. The Eagles would not take a dead money hit if they cut or traded him at any point going forward. The Bears have improbably started this season with a 2-1 record and could conceivably get to 3-1 Week 4 against the Giants, but it's pretty clear this team is in rebuilding mode, and should be looking to add draft capital. A (late) second-round pick feels like a reasonable cost if Quinn's production picks up some as the deadline approaches. Denico Autry (32), DE, Titans (6'5, 285) Autry is a versatile, productive defensive lineman who would make a lot of sense for the Eagles in an inside-outside role. He had 16.5 sacks in 2021-2022 for the Colts and Titans, plus an additional three more sacks in two playoff games those seasons. The Titans got in the win column Week 3, but they have the league's worst point differential, at -33. Even in the awful AFC South, if the Titans decide that they are not Super Bowl contenders, it would make sense to deal the 32-year old Autry. His 2022 salary is $6,150,000, some of which will have already been paid by Tennessee. https://www.phillyvoice.com/3-players-who-make-sense-for-eagles-at-trade-deadline-robert-quinn-rashaad-penny-denico-autry/
Guest Posted September 29, 2022 Posted September 29, 2022 No to all 3. Penny will be hurt by the trade deadline, and if the Eagles are on the brink, go find a young pass rusher that you can use now and for the future.
time2rock Posted September 29, 2022 Author Posted September 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, downundermike said: No to all 3. Penny will be hurt by the trade deadline, and if the Eagles are on the brink, go find a young pass rusher that you can use now and for the future. Agreed. I wouldn't be opposed to adding a RB (but they can always call on Howard if need be ... he wouldn't cost a pick and knows the offense and was effective when used sparingly). And I'm curious to see what that DE they poached off of Minny's practice squad can do.
thedanone82 Posted September 29, 2022 Posted September 29, 2022 If we are trading for a RB I'd rather have Corderrall Patterson I think he would be even better in our system
Rob331 Posted September 29, 2022 Posted September 29, 2022 Penny for a 2024 5th would be ok with me. My question is, who gets cut. I know there's an open roster spot, but remember, Dillard will be returning. I'm not high on either defensive end. I'm not about to give up a 2nd round pick with the prospect of 16 free agnet sfrom a good roster needing to be replaced. I'm also not willing to trade anything of value for a half season rental (Autry).
Guest Posted September 29, 2022 Posted September 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, Rob331 said: Penny for a 2024 5th would be ok with me. My question is, who gets cut. I know there's an open roster spot, but remember, Dillard will be returning. I'm not high on either defensive end. I'm not about to give up a 2nd round pick with the prospect of 16 free agnet sfrom a good roster needing to be replaced. I'm also not willing to trade anything of value for a half season rental (Autry). D"Ernest Johnson would be my target. Guy has performed every time he has had to play, but the Chubb and Hunt, he just does not see the field unless one of them is dinged.
Rob331 Posted September 29, 2022 Posted September 29, 2022 1 minute ago, downundermike said: "Ernest Johnson would be my target. Guy has performed every time he has had to play, but the Chubb and Hunt, he just does not see the field unless one of them is dinged. And Howie has a close relationship with the top of the Browns front office. Agree about his desirability, but who gets cut and what does he cost.
Guest Posted September 29, 2022 Posted September 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, Rob331 said: And Howie has a close relationship with the top of the Browns front office. Agree about his desirability, but who gets cut and what does he cost. You could cut Ian Book
thedanone82 Posted September 29, 2022 Posted September 29, 2022 Johnson is going to take Hunts role next year I doubt the Browns are interested in trading him.
UK_EaglesFan89 Posted September 29, 2022 Posted September 29, 2022 Yeah I'm not blown away by any of those options to be honest with you. Penny is decent but he's not great. Quinn would add juice but he's older. Yeah not enamoured with those options. 1
EricAllenPick6 Posted September 29, 2022 Posted September 29, 2022 NFL keep trying to make the trade deadline a thing, but I don't know that you can just insert a new guy into a new system halfway through the season and expect anything resembling production. This is not baseball. Hard pass on all 3 unless they came very cheap. In fact, I would not be mad if we were sellers trading Andre Dillard as long as we can get a good return. 3
UK_EaglesFan89 Posted September 29, 2022 Posted September 29, 2022 22 minutes ago, EricAllenPick6 said: NFL keep trying to make the trade deadline a thing, but I don't know that you can just insert a new guy into a new system halfway through the season and expect anything resembling production. This is not baseball. But you know Howie will be interested if this team looks like a genuine contender at the deadline.
EaglesAddict Posted September 30, 2022 Posted September 30, 2022 Not really sure about the 3 guys listed here, but I do think the Eagles could very well be buyers by the trade deadline
birdman#12 Posted September 30, 2022 Posted September 30, 2022 I don't think Penny brings any more to the table than Trey Sermon does......i would like to see him get some snaps, but it won't come until a RB gets hurt. I like to see Quinn come here, but not for a 2nd round pick.......maybe a 4th.......maybe Maybe Autry........
time2rock Posted September 30, 2022 Author Posted September 30, 2022 1 hour ago, birdman#12 said: I don't think Penny brings any more to the table than Trey Sermon does......i would like to see him get some snaps, but it won't come until a RB gets hurt. I like to see Quinn come here, but not for a 2nd round pick.......maybe a 4th.......maybe Maybe Autry........ Scott has missed a couple practices this week with a rib injury ... perhaps this is a good week to sit him to heal and give Sermon some snaps. Guessing the weather is going to be kinda shi**y on Sunday (rain, high winds) so a strong running game would seem necessary.
eggs Posted September 30, 2022 Posted September 30, 2022 The past signees show that we have a very poor track record with trade deadline signings. Renting Golden Tate for 3rd round pick did nothing. Avery for a 4th was a questionable move at the time and didn’t pan out.
Swimm Posted October 1, 2022 Posted October 1, 2022 On 9/30/2022 at 3:31 PM, eggs said: The past signees show that we have a very poor track record with trade deadline signings. Renting Golden Tate for 3rd round pick did nothing. Avery for a 4th was a questionable move at the time and didn’t pan out. Golden Tate was literally on the coaching who admitted they didn't know how to use him. One reason why this team needed to move on from that coaching Regime.
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